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mark krawczuk

hey , at least we dont have to pay medical bills here.........broke my arm
allit cost me is $00.00 dollars, better than usa , dont know what merry
old england is like ?
 
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MassiveProng

hey , at least we dont have to pay medical bills here.........broke my arm
allit cost me is $00.00 dollars, better than usa , dont know what merry
old england is like ?

Is it better, you top posting Usenet retard?

I make more money here so that I can afford paid for medical care.

We call that standard of living up here.
 
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amdx

I think you mean, I didn't have to pay for my medical bills by writing a
check
to the doctor or hospital.
But what you didn't say is this; I pay some taxes every day to a wasteful
bureaucracy
so they can write the check to pay my medical bills .
I just read what I wrote, and golly gee I think you did pay for your
medical bills.
And if your lucky enough to be healthy and take care of yourself, you don't
pay
any of those taxes to help pay your medical bills, you pay the taxes to pay
for other
peoples medical bills.
If this isn't a quote it should be;
"It's not free if the government pays for it."
Mike
 
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Michael A. Terrell

mark said:
hey , at least we dont have to pay medical bills here.........broke my arm
allit cost me is $00.00 dollars, better than usa , dont know what merry
old england is like ?


We break arms for free in the USA, as well. Treatment would cost me
the same in a VA hospital.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Homer J Simpson

But what you didn't say is this; I pay some taxes every day to a wasteful
bureaucracy
so they can write the check to pay my medical bills .

It is much cheaper in Canada where each province has a medical plan and you
get a health credit card to pay for care.
 
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amdx

Homer J Simpson said:
It is much cheaper in Canada where each province has a medical plan and
you get a health credit card to pay for care.
I'm sorry, I probably didn't explain it well. The Canadian government pays
for health care. Now where does the government get the money to pay the
bill?
The Taxpayers.
So it is not free. And it's not cheap, unless you are a heavy user of the
system.
Mike
 
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Homer J Simpson

I'm sorry, I probably didn't explain it well. The Canadian government
pays
for health care. Now where does the government get the money to pay the
bill?
The Taxpayers.
So it is not free. And it's not cheap, unless you are a heavy user of the
system.

In Canada the overhead is a tiny part of the cost. In the US it is a major
part, so it costs more in the US per head of population and you still wind
up with worse or no health care and a shorter life span. However many
executives get very rich.

Who pays for the indigent, Medicare, Medicaid, services for the armed
services and the deluxe care systems for government employees and
politicians?
 
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amdx

Homer J Simpson said:
In Canada the overhead is a tiny part of the cost. In the US it is a major
part, so it costs more in the US per head of population and you still wind
up with worse or no health care and a shorter life span. However many
executives get very rich.

Who pays for the indigent, Medicare, Medicaid, services for the armed
services and the deluxe care systems for government employees and
politicians?
Yep, we're on our way down that socialist road, won't be long and
and we will just be a Canada but with better weather.
Mike
 
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Homer J Simpson

Yep, we're on our way down that socialist road, won't be long and
and we will just be a Canada but with better weather.

Even the auto companies can no longer handle the old 'system'.
 
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

Yep, we're on our way down that socialist road, won't be long and
and we will just be a Canada but with better weather.

The only reason the Canadians can continue to pretend that their
socialist system works is because those who DO have money come to the
US and use the Free Market. (that's "free" as in "free to choose", not
as in "free beers".)

Without that, we're both going to go the way of the Soviet Union, Mao's
China , and Great Britain's nightmare of a medical system, and so on.

The only thing that saved China was (1) they had the population to
absorb the collapse, and (2) they decided to go to the Free Market system,
in case you haven't noticed.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Homer J Simpson

The only reason the Canadians can continue to pretend that their
socialist system works is because those who DO have money come to the
US and use the Free Market. (that's "free" as in "free to choose", not
as in "free beers".)

The only reason the Americans can continue to pretend that their
exploitative system works is because those who DO have money can come to
Canada and use the Free Market. (that's "free" as in "free to choose", not
as in "free beers".)

They simply pay cash and find the prices of both services and drugs are
substantially lower due to the elimination of the medical mafia and their
extractive procedures.
 
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

What's a nightmare about it ?

I've heard that you have to wait in line for like two years to get
major care.

Or maybe they just pop over to France or something.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Homer J Simpson

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian said:
I've heard that you have to wait in line for like two years to get
major care.

I waited 5 minutes.

I've heard you can wait up to 12 hours or more in a US 'emergency' room.
 
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john jardine

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian said:
I've heard that you have to wait in line for like two years to get
major care.

Or maybe they just pop over to France or something.

Thanks,
Rich

If you Google on "hospital waiting lists". The gov' supplies the current
data.
"Waiting times" are a very traditional, typically British, national hobby
horse.
If it's a no-news day then reporters are sent out to scour the kingdom for
an old dear who's been waiting 'too long' for a hip replacement. (always an
old dear). Makes a good filler item and the gov' of the day invariably has
to respond by apologising and setting up an enquiry.
On the other hand, a guy I know casually called at his vets with a chest
pain and 2 days later had had a triple bypass. The serious stuff always
receives prompt attention.

Having said this, I do believe the French healthcare is even better :).
john
 
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Homer J Simpson

If you Google on "hospital waiting lists". The gov' supplies the current
data.
"Waiting times" are a very traditional, typically British, national hobby
horse.
If it's a no-news day then reporters are sent out to scour the kingdom for
an old dear who's been waiting 'too long' for a hip replacement. (always
an
old dear). Makes a good filler item and the gov' of the day invariably has
to respond by apologising and setting up an enquiry.
On the other hand, a guy I know casually called at his vets with a chest
pain and 2 days later had had a triple bypass. The serious stuff always
receives prompt attention.

Having said this, I do believe the French healthcare is even better :).

I've heard the German system is spectacularly fast and efficient.
 
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Robert Baer

Homer said:
I waited 5 minutes.

I've heard you can wait up to 12 hours or more in a US 'emergency' room.
Yes; there should be multi-million class action lawsuits against
everyhospital around, starting with -->false advertising claims<--,
-->breach of implied contract<-- and i cannot think what else.
 
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Paul Burke

Richard said:
I've heard that you have to wait in line for like two years to get
major care.

Or maybe they just pop over to France or something.

There's a lot of public dissatisfaction with it, but broadly it works
pretty well. Far too well for our government, who want to privatise it
so their mates can make money out of it, and have consequently imposed a
lunatic finance scheme such that hospitals are closing and being
replaced with privately built (but publicly financed) ones that have
less beds and cost a fortune, and that hospitals run out of budget half
way through the financial year. The health service is fine, but it's
private business that hands out directorships to retired politicians.

Paul Burke
 
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amdx

Homer J Simpson said:
Even the auto companies can no longer handle the old 'system'.
That is the crux of the problem, if we were all responsible for our own
medical bills, costs would not have soared.
The downside of that is we would not have as many of the high tech
testing machines readily accessible.
Oh well, terror, immigration, healthcare, insurance, taxes, government
growth,
sometimes I just need a break, I stop watching cable news and listening to
talk radio and listen to 60s and 70s music. ahhh
hmm hmm hmm
Mike :)
 
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amdx

Homer J Simpson said:
The only reason the Americans can continue to pretend that their
exploitative system works is because those who DO have money can come to
Canada and use the Free Market. (that's "free" as in "free to choose", not
as in "free beers".)

They simply pay cash and find the prices of both services and drugs are
substantially lower due to the elimination of the medical mafia and their
extractive procedures.
Don't forget most of those drug development costs were paid for by the
wealthy American system.
 
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