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James said:Though small, you make a good point--how much do you think it'll
cost us in lives and treasure to have had the war effort sabotaged &
scuttled?
You'd prefer to have the pointless lost wars ?
Graham
James said:Though small, you make a good point--how much do you think it'll
cost us in lives and treasure to have had the war effort sabotaged &
scuttled?
The largest group of Republicans are of course not rich. This
infuriates Democratic politicians who don't understand why low-income
people would elect to be either conservative or Republican, "against
their own self-interest". A book was written on the subject, "What's
Wrong With Kansas?" Most libs wind up concluding that the lower
middle-class (their avowed constituancy!) are just stupid yokels who
deserve being poor. What they miss is that anyone would ever be
motivated by anything other than immediate greed; the very concept is
incomprehensable to them.
Of course, in relative or even in absolute terms, conservatives and
especially Christian conservatives are far more generous (of money,
time, kindness, and blood) than liberals, and immensely more generous
than secular liberals. This is good, since kids tend to follow their
parents' beliefs here, and the conservatives are having a lot more
babies.
Which is why, although I am not a believer, I have great respect for
people who are.
How much do you donate to charity? Do you volunteer? Give blood?
How many kids do you have?
Oh, you never told us: how much do you weigh?
John
I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...
So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.
In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.
...Jim Thompson
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian said:The word "liberal" used to mean "in favor of Liberty", but it's come to
mean "socialist" these days. >:-[
Nope. It means progressive.
Tell me, sincerely: as a progressive, presumably in favor of sharing
the benefits of the planet with everyone, are you willing to sacrifice
any of your own personal well-being to, say, help miserably poor and
sick people in less developed places? Or is your progressivism of the
theoretical "tax somebody else to help them, I can't afford it" sort?
I know a lot of theoretical progressives who are nasty, selfish, angry
jerks. They don't give squat about actual poor people, they just want
to crush people who are richer than themselves.
I have lots of facts. You just don't like tham.
OK, let's dump the theory and get real: for every dollar you
verifiably donate to
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
I will donate four. I'll even put up four US dollars against one
Canadian. Let's limit it, say, to $15,000 on my part. After all, I
have a lot of other good causes on my donation list for this year.
What do you say?
Though small, you make a good point--how much do you think it'll
cost us in lives and treasure to have had the war effort sabotaged &
scuttled?
Though small, you make a good point--how much do you think it'll
cost us in lives and treasure to have had the war effort sabotaged &
scuttled?
What about you Rich? AIUI, you were born Rich, weren't you? ;-)
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...
So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.
In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.
...Jim Thompson
It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.
This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.
And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.
John
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...
So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.
In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.
...Jim Thompson
It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.
This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.
And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.
John
Why don't we let them shoot Democrats for practice? And to double-up
on the experience, ship 'em to Mexico first, then shoot 'em when they
try to illegally cross the border ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Wanna donate to my "Vote None of the Above" campaign? ;-)
The word "liberal" used to mean "in favor of Liberty", but it's come to
mean "socialist" these days. >:-[
Nope. It means progressive.
Tell me, sincerely: as a progressive, presumably in favor of sharing
the benefits of the planet with everyone, are you willing to sacrifice
any of your own personal well-being to, say, help miserably poor and
sick people in less developed places? Or is your progressivism of the
theoretical "tax somebody else to help them, I can't afford it" sort?
I know a lot of theoretical progressives who are nasty, selfish, angry
jerks. They don't give squat about actual poor people, they just want
to crush people who are richer than themselves.
I'll always give a buck or so to a street beggar, having been there
myself.
The way I see it, you can't give from an empty vessel, but if your
cup runneth over, it feels really good to share - not so much because
I'm "doing good works", but more as a celebration of my good fortune
to have spare money to donate.![]()
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]
I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...
So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.
In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.
...Jim Thompson
It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.
This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.
And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.
John
Why don't we let them shoot Democrats for practice? And to double-up
on the experience, ship 'em to Mexico first, then shoot 'em when they
try to illegally cross the border ;-)
...Jim Thompson
If I were a Mexican, I'd want to be on this side of the border.
Wouldn't you?
John
If the point of "terrorism" is to annoy and inconvenience the maximum
number of people, then it's clear that Homeland Security is doing their
work for them.
I suppose. But why bother with immigration/citizenship then? The
Democrats would love it... me I'd flee to Oz ;-)
You'd prefer to have the pointless lost wars ?
Graham
The "Terrorists" won the day the US Government started strip-searching
people at airports.
If the point of "terrorism" is to annoy and inconvenience the maximum
number of people, then it's clear that Homeland Security is doing their
work for them.
Feh.
Rich
It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.
This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.
And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.
John
There's hard evidence that voluntary charitable giving is of
significant net benefit to the giver. It's win-win. Enforced giving is
less than zero sum.
No, I want to (and do) donate to helping sick kids in poor countries.
Homer probably doesn't, because talk is a lot cheaper when all you
care about is yourself.