History of bulk electronic components suppliers

[Lostgallifreyan]

IDIOT

Impedimenta, quick! Hide the fish! >

 

[John Larkin]

IDIOT

Really, you should at least consider his statement, instead of just
reacting to it. The sad thing about modern liberalism is that it is
driven mostly by reaction, not by what actually creates social good.

John

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

The sad thing about modern liberalism is that it is
driven mostly by reaction, not by what actually creates social good.

You can't put that only at the door of liberalism, it's true for all
parties in politics now. It's even wider, arguably. Business, as well as
politics, is based on such short-term perceptions that people are afraid of
investing anything in the long term because they might become losers in a
very reactionary race to gain advantage as things change faster than they
ever have before. Considering this in electronics (in a vague attempt to
steer to topic), companies like Yamaha, developing their FM synthesis over
10 years, ended up cashing in, releasing variants of their own work, and
others, in a bid to try to please a mercurial market. If people want
instant gratification from manufacturers and politics alike, they tend to
get what they want. I'm not even going to try to say whether something so
complex is 'good' or 'bad', but I do say that to lay the blame at the door
of whoever is deemed 'the opposition' is a tad silly.

 

[Eeyore]

Really, you should at least consider his statement, instead of just
reacting to it.

Given Jim's well publiced feelings about liberals......

The sad thing about modern liberalism is that it is driven mostly by reaction,
not by what actually creates social good.

That would seem to be a US phenomenon.

Graham

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

Libertarians seem to have the core political belief "I want to be left
alone." That's not as agressive as a classic angry liberal, but it's
not real supportive, either.

You've only quoted half of it. I want to be left alone _BY GOVERNMENT_,
not by my friends/family/etc.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

"Liberalism is a mental disease" ;-)

No more so than Neoconism/Bushism.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Homer J Simpson]

You've only quoted half of it. I want to be left alone _BY GOVERNMENT_,
not by my friends/family/etc.

Yep. Who wants Ashcroft's cold damp nose up your ass?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

IDIOT

You don't have to keep reminding us. Its obvious from the drivel you
post.


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[James Arthur]

In the "Who Really Cares" book

Thanks, I'll give it a gander.

there's a pair of USA maps. One shows
the states where people are most generous, in terms of charity, blood
donations, volunteerism, that sort of thing. The other map is the
states that voted for Kerry. They are almost exact complements.

John

I gave blood a couple weeks ago. I was lucky they could squeeze me
in--standing room only, so to speak.

Best,
James

(Dang it, lost another one. Google Groups keeps losing my posts!
Something about leaving a post composed on the screen too long (20-40
minutes?) before sending it. Google reports them as being
successfully sent, but they go to the bit-bucket instead.)

 

[John Larkin]

List all of the liberals running Halliburton.

Republicans fall into two camps. Those who are rich and want to keep it all.

Those who aren't rich and think being a Republican will help.

Which group is larger? Which is more generous?

The largest group of Republicans are of course not rich. This
infuriates Democratic politicians who don't understand why low-income
people would elect to be either conservative or Republican, "against
their own self-interest". A book was written on the subject, "What's
Wrong With Kansas?" Most libs wind up concluding that the lower
middle-class (their avowed constituancy!) are just stupid yokels who
deserve being poor. What they miss is that anyone would ever be
motivated by anything other than immediate greed; the very concept is
incomprehensable to them.

Of course, in relative or even in absolute terms, conservatives and
especially Christian conservatives are far more generous (of money,
time, kindness, and blood) than liberals, and immensely more generous
than secular liberals. This is good, since kids tend to follow their
parents' beliefs here, and the conservatives are having a lot more
babies.

Which is why, although I am not a believer, I have great respect for
people who are.

How much do you donate to charity? Do you volunteer? Give blood?

How many kids do you have?

Oh, you never told us: how much do you weigh?


John

 

[Jim Thompson]

The largest group of Republicans are of course not rich. This
infuriates Democratic politicians who don't understand why low-income
people would elect to be either conservative or Republican, "against
their own self-interest". A book was written on the subject, "What's
Wrong With Kansas?" Most libs wind up concluding that the lower
middle-class (their avowed constituancy!) are just stupid yokels who
deserve being poor. What they miss is that anyone would ever be
motivated by anything other than immediate greed; the very concept is
incomprehensable to them.

Of course, in relative or even in absolute terms, conservatives and
especially Christian conservatives are far more generous (of money,
time, kindness, and blood) than liberals, and immensely more generous
than secular liberals. This is good, since kids tend to follow their
parents' beliefs here, and the conservatives are having a lot more
babies.

Which is why, although I am not a believer, I have great respect for
people who are.

How much do you donate to charity? Do you volunteer? Give blood?

How many kids do you have?

Oh, you never told us: how much do you weigh?


John

I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...

So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.

In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.

...Jim Thompson

 

[John Larkin]

I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...

So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.

In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.

...Jim Thompson

It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.

This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.

And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]

I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...

So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.

In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.

...Jim Thompson

It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.

This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.

And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.

John

Why don't we let them shoot Democrats for practice? And to double-up
on the experience, ship 'em to Mexico first, then shoot 'em when they
try to illegally cross the border ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]

I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...

So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.

In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.

...Jim Thompson

It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.

This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.

And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.

John

Why don't we let them shoot Democrats for practice? And to double-up
on the experience, ship 'em to Mexico first, then shoot 'em when they
try to illegally cross the border ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If I were a Mexican, I'd want to be on this side of the border.
Wouldn't you?

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:03:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]

I just ran across some interesting stats for the cowardly Democrats...

So far the Iraq war has cost approximately 3200 American soldiers
their lives.

In the same time period 5600 Arizonans died in traffic accidents.

...Jim Thompson


It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.

This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.

And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.

John

Why don't we let them shoot Democrats for practice? And to double-up
on the experience, ship 'em to Mexico first, then shoot 'em when they
try to illegally cross the border ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If I were a Mexican, I'd want to be on this side of the border.
Wouldn't you?

John

I suppose. But why bother with immigration/citizenship then? The
Democrats would love it... me I'd flee to Oz ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I suppose. But why bother with immigration/citizenship then? The
Democrats would love it... me I'd flee to Oz ;-)

It's the Repugnicrats who want the cheap labor for their businesses.


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[James Arthur]

It is sort of heartless to say it, but 3200 isn't a lot of lives, and
they signed up to be warriors anyhow. SH killed a couple of million,
nearly a million in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait, the rest his own
population. The UN corruption-for-oil program killed hundreds of
thousands more.

This Dem/press "respect for soldiers lives" is crocodile tears; they
don't even like soldiers.

And face it: armies need practice. That's one reason we have so many
"allies" in Afghanistan and Iraq: they need to see how we operate, and
they need combat time under their belts.

John

Absolutely spot-on.

The fact is that this is among the most successful military
campaigns of all time in all terms except the PR, the perception.

And perception is vital. You cannot crush an enemy's spirit, you
cannot deprive him of all hope, you cannot drive him to capitulation,
resignation and surrender, while continually encouraging him with
reports that you're weary, discontent, and inclined to withdraw.

_That_ is how you lose.

That was the harm of what John Kerry and Jane Fonda did in Vietnam.
The North Vietnamese leaders have since revealed their strategy. They
believed the war would be won "on the campuses of America." With
words. And it was.

Thanks for helping, John and Jane.

Today, the problem is amplified; CNN and the internet conveys our
words (Nancy Pelosi's?) to the enemy at the speed of light. And he
rejoices.

James Arthur

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Absolutely spot-on.

Can you do that with bullshit?

That war was lost the moment it was started for no good reason and with no
exit strategy.

So was this one. At least George Snr. knew when to get out.


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[James Arthur]

Can you do that with bullshit?

That war was lost the moment it was started for no good reason and with no
exit strategy.

So was this one. At least George Snr. knew when to get out.

(sci.electronics.components dropped)

This war isn't lost, even now. Not by a long shot. The enemy is
but few--he claims 20k, but cut that in half or less. Nor is he
militarily effective. We dominate the country. He snipes and takes
potshots at our troops, but accomplishes little. For each soldier we
lose, he loses many, from his few. He can't afford it. Nor has he
popular support--the support of the people--for they are his quarry,
his prey.

But to win you have to present a single, unified, determined front
to your enemy, which the Democrats prevent, indeed, actively subvert.

Uniting, the press has to report successes, not just costs (they
always report the US's total losses; where's the enemy-tally?). But
then the press has a viewpoint to promote, and is eager to see the
President humiliated on any account, which is reason enough to oppose
him, regardless of the endeavor.

And so, back to the costs of Liberalism (capital "L", meaning
"people who proclaim themselves liberals, but aren't"), I add the cost
of the war.

So, you asked when Liberals last cost society a billion dollars, and
I've listed a number of their real-world trillion-dollar money-sinks,
massively mis-managed, producing little of the intended benefit.

To that list we could add the Homeland pseudo-Security nonsense.

That's my gripe, that's the harm wrought by well-intentioned actions
not well thought out.

Best,
James Arthur

 

[Hal Murray]

I'm just about to try syncing 3 little smps together. Of course the
555 was the first thing that came into my head as a master clock, say
80K, what would you suggest?

I'm certainly not going to use a PIC

Why not? Is there else anything useful it can do?