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Wow, first lead-free victim: Microsoft Xbox 1 billion damage

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Samantha Pierce-Harder

You are so full of shit.

Us, getting closer and closer to the galactic equator is doing it.

2012 is just around the corner.

Poles be flippin'...

Before you know it, exactly none of the set of worries about daily life
you possess currently will matter compared to those you will acquire.

Yet another veiled threat eh?
 
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John Larkin

You are so full of shit.

Google "butterfly effect."
Us, getting closer and closer to the galactic equator is doing it.

2012 is just around the corner.

Is that when we cross the galactic equator? My, how time flies.
Poles be flippin'...

Before you know it, exactly none of the set of worries about daily life
you possess currently will matter compared to those you will acquire.

Ah, another doomsday prophet. Always good for a laugh.


John
 
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joseph2k

John said:
Actually, it can, but the probability is awfully low.

Plutonium gets a bad rap. It's neither the most toxic nor the most
carcinogenic substance known, as I've heard anti-nukers claim. The
really nasty stuff is produced by bacteria and molds.

John

Well here is a copy of the decay chains chart:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Radioactive_decay_chains_diagram.svg

14 seems to be about the longest. Of course this chart ignores spontaneous
fission. That could produce some interesting results.
 
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Jasen Betts

The word for today is: MOLE.

How much damage would a mole do? (not the front yard variety)

Would not be good, but it's quite a bit more than one atom.


Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro at 6.02x10^23


Bye.
Jasen
 
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Jan Panteltje

Thirty particles may or may not cause cancer depending on what they
hit, DNA is a small target, the few miligrams of potassium in your
body is a radioactive source over million a times stronger than a
single atom of plutonium.

I am no nuculear scientist, but I think you also have to look at the
energy of the released radiation.
Any idea?
 
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Jan Panteltje

Would not be good, but it's quite a bit more than one atom.


Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro at 6.02x10^23


Bye.
Jasen

DOES ANYONE OF YOU GUYS PLAY THE LOTTERY?
 
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Spurious Response

Spurious said:
John said:
Now _one_ atom of Pu inhaled and settling in your body can kill you over time.
Like a permanent Xray.

impossible, an atom of plutonium can't produce more than about 30
energetic particles before it has decayed into inert atoms

Actually, it can, but the probability is awfully low.

Plutonium gets a bad rap. It's neither the most toxic nor the most
carcinogenic substance known, as I've heard anti-nukers claim. The
really nasty stuff is produced by bacteria and molds.

Beer! (close, spores are to bacterium)

And...

Rye Fungus! (close to mold, but better for you) ;-]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot

Dodgy stuff.

The first migraine treatment I was prescribed contained ergotamine tartrate.

Graham

When you get to the level of Lysergamide, then you are talking dodgy.

Dodge to the left...

Dodge to the right...
 
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Rich Grise

Ah, the Godzilla Effect: nuclear testing in the 1950's caused Katrina.

Actually, it did.

Yeah, global warming too, at least according to the bureaucrats who got
their science education from "Plan 9 From Outer Space" and the like.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Would not be good, but it's quite a bit more than one atom.

Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro at 6.02x10^23

DOES ANYONE OF YOU GUYS PLAY THE LOTTERY?[/QUOTE]

You're going to wind up getting cancer anyway, with a paranoid attitude
like that.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Jan Panteltje

You're going to wind up getting cancer anyway, with a paranoid attitude
like that.

Good Luck!
Rich

You are the one who needs it, you are in DU country.
You are a buch of little creepy murderers who throw bombs on
women and children, poison their land with with all sorts of crap,
all that because you never learned to think for yourself as your postings show.
Just a follower of your Fuerer GWB the horrible.

Hitler 6000000
GWBush 1000100
Pol Pot 1000000

You will make the charts.
May the black hole swallow you before that.
 
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Rich Grise

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:07:46 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

I'll thank you not to commit the libel of lumping me with the Bushists.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Spurious Response

You are the one who needs it, you are in DU country.
You are a buch of little creepy murderers who throw bombs on
women and children, poison their land with with all sorts of crap,
all that because you never learned to think for yourself as your postings show.
Just a follower of your Fuerer GWB the horrible.

Hitler 6000000
GWBush 1000100
Pol Pot 1000000

You will make the charts.
May the black hole swallow you before that.


You're a goddamned idiot.

There was a time when you made marginally credible posts, but your
recent history, including this horseshit proves you've gone off the deep
end.
 
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Chris Jones

Spurious said:
Metallic form lead poses no "leeching" hazard.

There are no overtly high lead levels found in the water tables around
LEAD MINES! Oh... and Police FIRING RANGES from the '30s on!

I would say that the lead in solder is better bonded than raw lead or
lead ores at a mine.

And you're still allowed to put great slabs of lead on your roof where the
acid rain can get all over it, but you can't use up an old 0402 component
that has SnPb solder on it. Noooo, that has to go in the special bin for
hazardous waste, and you can't use it for something useful first, naughty
naughty. Stupid! If you're really lucky, the 0402 component from the
"special bin for hazardous waste" might get recycled (at your great
expense), and then someone will put the lead from it on their roof in the
acid rain, where lead is supposed to be.

They got away with it because the electronics industry is used to obeying
arbitrary standards that ordinary people with common sense would never put
up with. Anything that is not designed as trash (10+ year warranty would
be a suitable criterion) should get an automatic exemption to use whatever
solder is most reliable. That would prevent a great deal of pollution
caused by unreliable devices failing and being replaced prematurely due to
mandatory poor choice of solder.

Chris
 
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Chris Jones

Eeyore said:
What gold wire ? I thought modern stuff uses aluminium mainly.

No, at least in mobile phones (and probably most consumer stuff) it is still
gold for many of the chips (though some are flip-chipped BGA things). If
they use gold wire then it will be about 1 thousandth of an inch (25um)
diameter and each wire will be around 40-80 thousandths of an inch (1-2mm)
long. There might be about 50 such wires per chip, and say half a dozen
such chips in the phone, and you can calculate from that what the gold from
a phone would be worth, but I can't be bothered to work it out right now.
It would not be worth much, so to be profitable the recovery process would
have to be highly automated or done in a place with low wages.

Chris
 
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