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Robert L Bass

The Illinois Department of Professional
Regulation would beg to differ...

There's no need for them to beg. Please
try to be more respectful of them. After
all, they are the only protection the
good people of Illinois have from umm,
you.
They make no distinction insofar as
alarm sales goes, between an installation company and an equipment reseller...

Actually, they do. If you had bothered to
read the statute, which I posted here,
you would see that.
Of course, they only regulate people
selling from within the state...

This entire meta-thread is based on the
hypothetical situation of a vendor going
to Illinois to set up an online store.
You really should check your facts
before calling someone an idiot....

I did and you are. Any questions?
 
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Robert L Bass

I was speaking of the irony that you left your former state, Connecticut ( a
Democrat state), for Florida (a Republican
state) in order to operate within the law.

Interesting claim. I was fully licensed in CT
when I moved to Florida. Politics had
nothing to do with my decision though.
No one said anything about you being
in or operating from Illinois...

Someone made a stupid comparison of
Illinois law. I quoted from current Illinois
statute (which you snipped and claimed
was outdated) to show that the poster is
wrong. Illinois had no such requirement.
If you had been paying attention
instead of in a huge hurry to argue
in response, you would have known
that.

What's your point, moron? I moved from
CT where I held an E1 alarm contractor's
license because I ran an alarm company
there plus an online store.
 
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Robert L Bass

He must have found an outdated section...

The quote is from the current Illinois statute.
Instead of lying about it, try looking it up
yourself, idiot.
... every single wholesaler, online
dealer, or service company that
operates FROM here that deals
with security or fire alarm systems
must have a DPR license...

Bullfrank!
 
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Robert L Bass

just think of all the parts you can "sell"...

Odds are I'm already selling more
in a day than you do in a week.
 
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Robert L Bass

"Private alarm contractor" does not include a
Maybe my english is not good enough...

Now there's an understatement.
or something else,but what i read in the secound part of the quote is exactly what you do:

"and does not sell, install, monitor, maintain, alter, repair, replace, service, or respond to alarm systems at protected premises
or premises to be protected."

If we read carefully,we see that to
be exempt from the law someone
should not sell alarm system to a
protected premises or to be protected
promises...

The first paragraph very clearly states
that a company which only sells from
its place of business is not a "Private
alarm contractor" and thus is not
required to be licensed.
your online activity,is exactly that..

Online, yes. It's not subject to license
requirements in any state.
you sell to the owner of those premises,
when they are inside that premises (in
front of there pc),and you even send the
stuff to the premises...

That much is true. In order to purchase
online my customer must be in front of his
PC. However, I don't see any mention of
where the client may be seated... :^)
 
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Robert L Bass

Cracker dribbled:
Seems our friend is offering monitoring...

On a related note, I see that you are barred from working in the alarm trade in Illinois due to your alcoholism and drug addiction.
Is the Texas Department of Public Safety Private Security Board aware of your drug and alcohol problems? Do they know you're under
psychiatric care for agoraphobia / panic disorder (a form of schizophrenia)? What time does their office open on Monday? :^)
 
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Stanley Barthfarkle

One of these days, yer gonna piss the wrong person off, and we'll hear all
about it on the evening news.
 
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Stanley Barthfarkle

Mark Leuck said:
"Food poisoning epidemic confirmed to center around Sarasota hamburgers"?


Hehehe. Actually, he took two swipes that last round, without provocation.
Called me an idiot, and Frank a "shit", obviously trying to bait a pissing
match. Useless piece of excrement, he is.

Someday, some freak with nothing to lose will bumble into an argument with
Bass and end up on his doorstep. I kind of feel sorry for the guy, the way
he devolves into name calling when he knows he's wrong. How pathetic. Anger
management, anyone?
 
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Frank Olson

Robert L Bass vomited:

On a related note, I see that you are barred from working in the alarm trade in Illinois due to your alcoholism and drug addiction.

His "alcoholism and drug addiction" are *your* fabrications (as much as
this particular "statement" is). Shame on you, Bass. Unlike you, we
can work in practically any state (or province) we choose. Your
criminal record may not bar you from licensing, but it would certainly
raise a few red flags.


Is the Texas Department of Public Safety Private Security Board aware of your drug and alcohol problems?

I don't think the ravings of some idiot in Sarasota is going to count
for much.

Do they know you're under
psychiatric care for agoraphobia / panic disorder (a form of schizophrenia)?

Do they know you're an "installer wannabe" and an asshole? It won't
take them long to find out.

What time does their office open on Monday? :^)


I imagine about 9:00 am... Why not give them a call?
 
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Robert L Bass

On a related note, I see that [Cracker is]
His "alcoholism and drug addiction" are
*your* fabrications...

You're lying (again) Olson. He has admitted
his alcoholism and drug addiction to me, to
you (or at least that's what he said when he
called me in one of his many drunken
stupors) and to at least two others who post
here.
...we can work in practically any state
(or province) we choose.

Wrong again, Olson. You can't work anywhere
that a license is required since you have no
experience and could never pass the test.
Your criminal record [one 30-year old assault
charge] may not bar you from licensing...

Correct, but I wouldn't be willing to take the pay
cut to return to installing.
but it would certainly raise a few red flags.

I don't think the ravings of some idiot in
Sarasota is going to count for much.

There are no idiots here. You're not allowed.
Do they know you're an "installer wannabe"

Not a chance, dummy. However, you have
been pretending you're an installer for years.
It's kind of pathetic that you have such a boring
life your only source of cameraderie is to
try to fool a few morons in a newsgroup into
thinking you have something in common with
them.
I imagine about 9:00 am...
Why not give them a call?

Naah. You can do it and pretend you're Sabodish.
 
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Frank Olson

Robert said:
You're lying (again) Olson. He has admitted
his alcoholism and drug addiction to me, to
you (or at least that's what he said when he
called me in one of his many drunken
stupors) and to at least two others who post
here.

So you're saying you have positive proof or simply more of your ravings?
Graham never "admitted" any such thing to me. You've twisted his
words to obtain that which you crave the most. Attention, and the
chance to "get even". Tom's done exactly the same thing to you. You've
done exactly the same thing to "the other Frank". It's a real
merry-go-round here. When are you going to be "man enough" to get off it?

Wrong again, Olson. You can't work anywhere
that a license is required since you have no
experience and could never pass the test.

The good old Bass "Triple D" in action... Duck, dodge, deceive.


There are no idiots here. You're not allowed.

One "thing" prevents my going there. When you're in Brazil, that's no
longer an issue.


Not a chance, dummy. However, you have
been pretending you're an installer for years.

Prove it.

It's kind of pathetic that you have such a boring
life your only source of cameraderie is to
try to fool a few morons in a newsgroup into
thinking you have something in common with
them.

A lot more "with them" than with you.


Naah. You can do it and pretend you're Sabodish.

I actually found this particular response of yours to be pretty damn
funny since you're the only one in the Group that's ever pretended to be
Sabodish.
 
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Robert L Bass

You're lying (again) Olson. He has admitted
So you're saying you have positive proof

I'm saying he confessed. You know it because
he told you the same thing. He also told at least
two other regulars here.
 
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Frank Olson

Roland said:
I have never met Graham, although we may be in closer geographic proximity
than many here and he certainly knows how and where to find me. That said,
Graham can do a good job of convincing a person that the personal demons
that can vex us all from time to time have had a full time job with him for
some time, including the demons in the bottle. After all these years I feel
certain Bass can parse out what is alcohol and what is really Graham. I
don't think Graham has been as successful at facing those issues himself as
he would like, but to his credit he seems to be game for the struggle.

Graham's only "issue" is having called Bass when he'd had a "couple".
That does not mean he has an alcohol problem. We've all enjoyed
"hoisting a few" at times had and more than a few have had a "snoot
full" now and then. Graham's mistake was two-fold. He admitted to
having had a few before posting into the Group and he called Bass a
couple of times when he was feeling "in the Pink". Many here objected
to his trying to post "attachments" into Group and responded with
derogatory comments when he posted he'd "had a couple". I've spoken
with him on more than a few occasions and I can assure you he is *not* a
drunk. I have (to my misfortune) dealt with an individual that was
fighting this particular demon and Graham does not fit the profile. The
individual (let's call him "Bob") was a valued employee who fell off
"the wagon" when his son was killed in a motorcycle accident. We all
pulled together and were able to pull him back from the brink. I'm sure
Bass (and more than a few here) would have fired his ass (from the
comments made here).

It
would be easy to fault Bass for mentioning all that to barb Graham, but it
seems that since some here like to taunt Bass about his health issues, and
cheer him on to the next life, I feel Bass has the right to take the gloves
off for nearly anyone that rattles his cage.

He has "the right", yes. He doesn't have "the right" to post libelous
statements, outright lies, and deliberately misleading remarks. He also
doesn't have the right to threaten an individual's livelihood. Bass is
a rotten, miserable, mean spirited piece of shit. He deliberately filed
a false complaint with Graham's former employer in a bid to get him
fired. Graham forwarded copies of everything Bass emailed his boss to
me and I can tell you that what Bass did went way beyond "taking the
gloves off". The fact that he continues to spew the same lie (that
Graham used his employers resources to perform an illegal credit check
on Bass) is also way beyond "taking the gloves off". Graham has *never*
gone "real life" with Bass *to this day*. Bass "claims" of Graham and I
are behind the "complaints" filed at the BBB website. This is also an
outright lie. His "claims" of my calling his suppliers in an attempt to
"hurt his business" are equally outrageous. I did no such thing. Will
he ever "own up" as Tom has done? He isn't man enough.

Let's face it, Bass seems to
even enjoy a good dust up with some others here now and then.

Watch and see what happens when he goes to Brazil for a few months and
stops posting here for awhile. I guarantee that on his return, the very
first time he posts he'll make some reference to Jim (Alarminex) or me
followed shortly by more references to "Cracker", and then he'll call
someone a "liar" that will start the merry-go-round all over again.

However, I
hope that in Bass' private moments Graham may be included in whatever
prayers Bass has to offer up, and visa versa.

I sincerely doubt Bass prays (or is even a Christian).

Since I fall in the very far
from perfect class, let me put in a greedy plug for myself that both be
generous enough to include me too. It seems that Bass and Graham, although
facing different issues, could both use some better luck and some firmer
footing facing life's challenges.

Bass' life is "perfect". Graham's not doing at all bad either. You,
OTOH, are full of shit. I'll pray for you. :)

I think this may be a genetic fault that I share with Bass. It is an Irish
issue I suspect. Remember "Forgive and forget................but first get
even!"

Ah, yes... The "Irish". That often conflicts with the "Swedish" and
the "German" in me...
 
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Robert L Bass

After all these years I feel certain Bass
can parse out what is alcohol and what
is really Graham.

I minored in psychology in college.
I don't think Graham has been as
successful at facing those issues himself
as he would like, but to his credit he
seems to be game for the struggle...

I don't think so. Cracker falls off the wagon
on a pretty regular basis. The problem is
he's not just addicted to alcohol and drugs.
He still likes getting stoned. As long as he
enjoys it he's never going to seek real help.

While doing volunteer work many years
ago I counseled prisoners with drug and
alcohol problems. The vast majority never
admit that their problems are *their*
problems. Like Cracker, they blame
everyone but themselves. After a few
years most of them get out. Within a few
more years most are back in prison again.
Cracker's prison may not have bars on it
but he's imprisoned just the same.
It would be easy to fault Bass for mentioning
all that to barb Graham, but it seems that
since some here like to taunt Bass about
his health issues, and cheer him on to the
next life, I feel Bass has the right to take the
gloves off for nearly anyone that rattles his
cage...

Even approaching the cage may generate a
response. :^)
Let's face it, Bass seems to even enjoy a
good dust up with some others here now
and then...

Me? Like a good fight? Naah. :^)
However, I hope that in Bass' private
moments Graham may be included in
whatever prayers Bass has to offer up,
and visa versa...

I can't honestly say I've prayed for Cracker
lately. However, I don't really wish him any
ill. He's like Jiminex in that regard. I just
don't care what happens to him.
Since I fall in the very far from perfect
class...

Careful. Such admissions in ASA may
lead to a full assault by the usual suspects.
let me put in a greedy plug for myself that
both be generous enough to include me
too. It seems that Bass and Graham,
although facing different issues, could both
use some better luck and some firmer footing facing life's challenges.

Luck is only one issue. The difference with
me is that when I found out I was sick I
immediately took action. I put everything
else on hold and devoted myself to beating
cancer. No way am I going to give up
without a fight. It has been painful beyond
belief, exhausting and frustrating. After
surgery and months of chemo, they now
say my odds of survival are decent. Only
time will tell but the fact is none of us
really knows how long we have.

Cracker's attitude is that his problems are
everyone else's fault. He blames the loss
job after job on people who don't understand
him. He blames his drinking on his fears.
He blames his drug addiction on doctors
who keep writing prescriptions for him.
Because he refuses to face his problems
and seek real help he's doomed to repeat
the binges. He says stupid things in front
of customers and co-workers (according to
his former associates) so often that his
bosses are always looking for an excuse to
fire him.

Cracker is afraid of even the simplest things
in everyday life like driving in traffic, meeting
strangers, etc. He hides from these fears by
staying up drinking all night. Come morning
he's too hung over to work so he calls in sick.
This happens often enough to give his
employers the excuse they need and he
gets fired once again.

Every time he loses a job he goes on an
extended binge of drugs and alcohol again.
The cycle is self-perpetuating. Cracker is
the only one with the power to change his
life. Unfortunately, he's too weak and too
stupid to make the right decision. If he
wasn't such an obnoxious jerk it would be
sad.
 
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Frank Olson

Robert said:
I'm saying he confessed. You know it because
he told you the same thing. He also told at least
two other regulars here.


Bullshit!
 

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