Re: UK RICS report says solar takes 208 years to repay...nonsense! Help needed!

[The Natural Philosopher]

We in Britain would be scared if that were true here too !

Its never been true even here since - well probably..er..never!

Every time a king tried that trick he gor shrt shrift from
someone..magna carta, beheading, 'died from a surfeit of ....' (poisoned?)

Arguably GW bush has more power than most English monarchs ever did.

I'd say you have more of that in the USA than over here.

More blatant, and of a different quality maybe, more in quantity? no.

As civilisations tend towards democracy, corruption gets more subtle: In
that respect the USA is less like a democracy, that's all.

More power is in the hands of the president rather than the congress or
the senate, than the PM has here vis a vis the houses..

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Afraid not. Many hunters I allow on my place are quite successful with
.44 magnum pistols equipped with scopes.

The mind boggles.

Must have a reasonably long barrel I suppose: Or the animals are less leery.

I'm not sure of the ammo they
use, but it's made specifically for deer and bear.

Probably some sort of expanding thing. A 44 magnum AFAIK packs a heck of
a wallop. If that connects it would probably punch a plate sized hole
through the thing. Almost anywhere in the head/spine/heart/ribcage area
would be instantly fatal, and death from loss of blood in any other
areas almost guaranteed. Makes the cowboys i teh films who stagger aroud
with bandages across their chests look stupidly tough or lucky really.

Rarely if ever do
they ever have to shoot more than once. Several each year are also
taken with archery equipment.

I don't hunt myself, but if I did, I would be with you in saying a
rifle in a .30-.30 or .30-.06 would be best. The terrain here in
mountainous though, and the hunters find the pistols easier to carry
all day.

I handled a rifle - think it was a 257 or something - and felt that was
a weapon I could have hunted with. Not sure what a modern 303 is like,
but the old Lee Enfields were very heavy to cart around.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

The so-called 'patriot' legislation in the USA appears to be all about giving up
those things the original 'patriots' actually fought for.

Graham

Oldest marketing and sale ploy in the book.

Is called the Big Lie.

It goes like this.

Its easier to get away with a Big Lie than a little one.. People will
suspect little lies, but they don't consider that a complete blatant
total assertion contrary to the truth could have been made by any sane
reasonably honest person like themselves.

So its actually SAFER to do the Big Lie.

All totalitarian regimes are n fact announced as bringing freedom to the
people.

The more an administration pounds on about Christian values, freedom and
democracy, the less of any of them it is likely to be implementing.
That's so true its almost axiomatic.

 

[Steve Cothran]

Toatally useless against deer.

You need a .25 or bigger rifle, the right ammmo, and clear shot DOWNWARDS.

Afraid not. Many hunters I allow on my place are quite successful with
..44 magnum pistols equipped with scopes. I'm not sure of the ammo they
use, but it's made specifically for deer and bear. Rarely if ever do
they ever have to shoot more than once. Several each year are also
taken with archery equipment.

I don't hunt myself, but if I did, I would be with you in saying a
rifle in a .30-.30 or .30-.06 would be best. The terrain here in
mountainous though, and the hunters find the pistols easier to carry
all day.

 

[Steve Cothran]

The mind boggles.

Must have a reasonably long barrel I suppose: Or the animals are less leery.

Most of them use a 9 1/2" (~241MM) barrel. The deer are leery, but the
terrain is dense and easy to hide a treestand in. Why they want to sit
up there 10 hours and freeze their arse off is beyond me.

Here's an idea of the density, courtesy of Google Earth, of my place.

www.lab-23.com/misc/myplace.jpg

Like much of Tennessee.

 

[John Rumm]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:26:09 +0100 someone who may be Peter Parry


How does this compare with the mercury emitted producing the extra
electricity needed to power incandescent bulbs?

Probably quite badly. Break a CFL in your house and you have a
hazardous waste contamination problem to deal with in that room.
Generating the extra electricity for the incandescent may liberate more
Hg, but it will not be concentrated in a room where you will be
breathing its vapour for years.

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John.

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[Morris Dovey]

Eeyore wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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|| 60K mils is a good point to trade it. It will need its
|| third/fourth set of tyres
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| You think tyres only last 15,000 mi ?
|
| Graham

Tire lives would seem to depend on the driver. One car that I bought
(new) was outfitted with Dunlops that only lasted 1,200 miles before
the tread was gone...

 

[Steve Cothran]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:39:15 +0100, Eeyore

ubsequently some 3 or 4 of those

'Islamofascists' have been found guilty in court of calling for murder and
imprisoned. And I bet your media in the USA haven't carried the news of that !

It wasn't on the news because those assholes calling for murder is
legal here. They could have further called the president's wife a
whore then wiped their butt with our flag, and still be legal. U.S.
Constitution, 1st amendment.

That doesn't mean they might not get the shit beat out of them by the
populace while the police are "busy" looking at something else.

 

[Steve Walker]

As you note, "GUNS" is off-topic in alt.solar.thermal.

Excepting giant solar-powered death rays concealed in volcanos, of course.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

Are you claiming that these "special units" are not police officers?

The vast majority of policemen are NOT armed. You are clearly a plantpot.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

You start reading about the founding fathers and they were scared that
America would become like England .

They were more scared of Indian attacks.

With a king having absolute power over the common man.....
And corruption within the leadership.

The US was considering having a King. George Washington was offered it and
turned it down.

 

[Morris Dovey]

Jim wrote:
| || Eeyore wrote:
||| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
|||
|||| 60K mils is a good point to trade it. It will need its
|||| third/fourth set of tyres
|||
||| You think tyres only last 15,000 mi ?
|||
||| Graham
||
|| Tire lives would seem to depend on the driver. One car that I
|| bought (new) was outfitted with Dunlops that only lasted 1,200
|| miles before the tread was gone...
|
| Yeah, that flying down I-80 like a lunatic will get ya!

Heh. I drive 16 miles each way to/from my shop every day - and rarely
exceed 65 MPH (posted speed limit is 70). Somehow, as I got older I
got better at allowing enough time to get where I was going...

Putting Michelins on the MGB seemed to cure the tire problem, but I
never did manage to go longer than about a month without needing to
retune the carburetors. After about a year I traded it in on a new
P1800E that needed new tires every 30-40,000 miles - and happily drove
that car for the next 17 years (until I could no longer find gas for
it).

 

[Eeyore]

Probably quite badly. Break a CFL in your house and you have a
hazardous waste contamination problem to deal with in that room.

For 4mg of mercury that's most likely well bound up in the solid parts ? LMAO !

Don't be ridiculous.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Eeyore wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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|| 60K mils is a good point to trade it. It will need its
|| third/fourth set of tyres
|
| You think tyres only last 15,000 mi ?


Tire lives would seem to depend on the driver. One car that I bought
(new) was outfitted with Dunlops that only lasted 1,200 miles before
the tread was gone...

What kind of car was that ?

Graham

 

[John Rumm]

For 4mg of mercury that's most likely well bound up in the solid parts ? LMAO !

Don't be ridiculous.

Typically 2mg in liquid form... have a look how a CFL works.


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[Arnold Walker]

Twit probably means Klan..... After all, you'd have to be an insane
racist to own a gun, right?

If it was Klan it be a democrat like Congressman Byrd.
See very few conservatives that are in the Klan.
Though in the real world,Just for the most part Democrat bigots.
Just like the Democrat that got the news for dragging a black man with a log
chain in Texas,a couple of years ago.
For that matter,Can you name one polictical figure with a past or present
Klan activity that isn't a Democrat.
We also have 3 Democrat federal judges that are were ex-Klan.

 

[Eeyore]

Typically 2mg in liquid form... have a look how a CFL works.

I know how they work and the mercury doesn't stay as liquid. Very few CFLs will have
as little as 2mg but either way, that's no real hazard to anyone.

" Contrary to a popular myth, the mercury in a CFL is in vapor form and is not
liquid. It cannot spill out of the bulb or be handled and absorbed as someone could
handle mercury liquid. As a CFL ages, the mercury inside slowly bonds with the
phosphor coating inside the lamp and makes it generally unavailable to the atmosphere
or human consumption. In fact, the lack of available gaseous mercury is one reason
why the lamp eventually fails. This means that burned-out lamps pose very little
human health risk. Encapsulated CFLs pose no human health risks."
http://www.energytrust.org/residential/es/products/cfl_mercury.html

Graham

 

[Morris Dovey]

Eeyore wrote:

| What kind of car was that ?

MG

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Eeyore wrote:

| What kind of car was that ?

MG

Odd. Usually they go at least 10k miles out of a set.

Worst in the bad old days was the mini.

 

[Morris Dovey]

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Morris Dovey wrote:
|| Eeyore wrote:
||
||| What kind of car was that ?
||
|| MG
|
| Odd. Usually they go at least 10k miles out of a set.

The car, a "B", had a serious tendancy to oversteer on corners (and on
curves at the upper end of its speed range). I suspect this
contributed significantly to tire wear - but the Michelin replacements
hadn't worn noticably when I traded the car a year or so later, so I'm
not sure about the exact problem.

| Worst in the bad old days was the mini.