Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it

[Dave Hinz]

Now there's a phrase I'm going to commit to memory. Well done.

Thanks; far as I know that's original.

 

[Dave Hinz]

Gunner Asch wrote...

You think Monica caused 9-11? That's hallucination.

No, that's a red herring. Clinton's ineffective responses to terrorist
acts caused them to become emboldened, and escalate, and as a result we
have 9/11. Did Clinton cause it? Of course not. Did Clinton's
ineffective responses contribute to the environment that made it
possible? Absolutely.

 

[Gunner Asch]

If you think that the USA's attack on Iraq has made the USA, or the
world in general, safer in any way, then you really are living in a box.
Al Quida could easily cause all sorts of attacks on the USA if they
choose - the attacks on London were a demonstration of this power.

Actually we are a lot safer with so many of Al Quidas management and
rank and file having become maggot food.

And for your information, it is the USA who is the bully that was hit in
the face. It hasn't backed down yet - we can only hope that the other
children will have the courage to persuade him to mend his ways before a
victim brings a knife to the schoolyard.

Your opinion is noted. And you seem to forget that Wahabism wants to
not only bring a knife to the schoolyard..but wants to cut off your
head, the head of your wife and children, your dog and your gerbil,
then convert any survivors to miltitant Islam.

And that Davie..is the gorilla in the china shop, no matter what
buffoonish opinion you hold.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

 

[Gunner Asch]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usattackstorture
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/111305Z.shtml
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_torture
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1105mccain-torture05.html
http://www.click2houston.com/news/5257678/detail.html
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...torture_27edi.ART.State.Edition1.c5b7d9c.html
http://cyberjournal.org/cj/show_archives/?id='835'&batch='30'&lists='newslog'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/06/AR2005110601281.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102501388.html

Odd..I see lots of opinion pieces, details of detainee policies, but
nothing about official US policies on torture. Cant you produce an
Executive order or something?

Ill be waiting for proof of your claims about Official US policy
approval on "torture"

Btw Dave...what do you define as torture?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

 

[Gunner Asch]

Gunner Asch wrote...

You think Monica caused 9-11? That's hallucination.

Thats not MY claim, nor is it my claim that the Evil Republicans
having kept the Slickster tied up, caused 9-11 either.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

 

[Gunner Asch]

No, that's a red herring. Clinton's ineffective responses to terrorist
acts caused them to become emboldened, and escalate, and as a result we
have 9/11. Did Clinton cause it? Of course not. Did Clinton's
ineffective responses contribute to the environment that made it
possible? Absolutely.

Indeed

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

 

[gfulton]

On 15 Nov 2005 13:53:12 +0200, David Brown
snippage

Your opinion is noted. And you seem to forget that Wahabism wants to
not only bring a knife to the schoolyard..but wants to cut off your
head, the head of your wife and children, your dog and your gerbil,
then convert any survivors to miltitant Islam.

And that Davie..is the gorilla in the china shop, no matter what
buffoonish opinion you hold.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

That's as accurate a representation of radical Islamist goals as you're
likely to find. But from what I've seen posted here lately, Gunner, you're
casting pearls before swine. And more's the pity.

Garrett Fulton

 

[surftom]

Actually, Spehro, in some places putting the receptacle on its side
*is* code. The logic is that you mount the receptacle with the neutral
side (wide prong) up so if something fell on the plug and it was
sticking out a little and made contact there would be less chance for
hurting yourself.
That's apparently why some are mounted "upside down" too (with the
ground prong up). Don't have a reference for it - but do remember
reading it somewhere

As for the OP - please rethink what you're teaching your kids!!

 

[Ignoramus15120]

Actually, Spehro, in some places putting the receptacle on its side
*is* code. The logic is that you mount the receptacle with the neutral
side (wide prong) up so if something fell on the plug and it was
sticking out a little and made contact there would be less chance for
hurting yourself.
That's apparently why some are mounted "upside down" too (with the
ground prong up). Don't have a reference for it - but do remember
reading it somewhere

As far as I know, the national electrical code does not specify
orientation of receptacles.

i

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote...

Rich, you were there, tell us, did fighting them over there
mean we didn't have to fight them over here?

I think you already know the answer to that one. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

No, that's a red herring. Clinton's ineffective responses to terrorist
acts caused them to become emboldened, and escalate, and as a result we
have 9/11. Did Clinton cause it? Of course not. Did Clinton's
ineffective responses contribute to the environment that made it
possible? Absolutely.

I've just checked the presidential timeline, and it shows that the
proximate cause of of the 9/11 attack(s) was the election of George W.
Bush:
http://teacher.scholastic.com/researchtools/articlearchives/civics/presid/prtimeli.htm

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

The thing I miss most from the American (and British) politicians, and
many of the posters here, is the ability to look at a conflict from the
other side. You might not agree with the other side, but a bit of
thought as to how things look from their point of view makes an enormous
difference in settling any disagreement. After all, you do want all
sides to reach agreement, don't you?

No, they don't. They're in the grip of terminal brain lock, and the
only option they allow their little imprisoned mind to acknowledge
is to kill all of "them".

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Dave Hinz]

I've just checked the presidential timeline, and it shows that the
proximate cause of of the 9/11 attack(s) was the election of George W.
Bush:
http://teacher.scholastic.com/researchtools/articlearchives/civics/presid/prtimeli.htm

Right, because correlation indicates causation now, does it?
Or, are you just parodying someone who doesn't understand logic? It's
so hard to know.

Dave "...or care..." Hinz

 

[George Willer]

I've just checked the presidential timeline, and it shows that the
proximate cause of of the 9/11 attack(s) was the election of George W.
Bush:
http://teacher.scholastic.com/researchtools/articlearchives/civics/presid/prtimeli.htm

Cheers!
Rich

OK, then, by extension the real cause of the attack was our failure to elect
algore?

That's one more example of why we will some day require an IQ test before
granting the privilege to vote.

 

[George Willer]

I don't think it is specified in the NEC, but any thoughtful person will
mount a receptacle with the ground side up, as we've been doing for many
years. Unfortunately, many electricians aren't thoughtful. The industry
providing most of the devices isn't very helpful... showing them both ways
in their literature.

Many manufacturers even make angled plugs that have the ground prong the
wrong way, so the cord goes up instead of down. That isn't helpful.

I know of a large institution that spent over a million dollars replacing
all their outlets with new ones with the ground prong correctly installed on
the top.

 

[Jim Thompson]

OK, then, by extension the real cause of the attack was our failure to elect
algore?

That's one more example of why we will some day require an IQ test before
granting the privilege to vote.

But won't all the blue-nosed tree-hugging leftist weenies riot when
they are disenfranchised ?

...Jim Thompson

 

[richard mullens]

Weak responses to terrorist acts have led to terrorist acts of greater
intensity. Intense responses to terrorist acts have, so far, prevented
more terrorist acts on US soil. Seems pretty obvious to me - hit the
bully back in the face, and he backs down.

Personally, I'd prefer the Terrorist acts to be confined to US soil rather than exported and exacerbated on European and Near
East soil.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Right, because correlation indicates causation now, does it?
Or, are you just parodying someone who doesn't understand logic? It's
so hard to know.

Well, I do so want it to be true (that Dubya caused 9/11), but I'm sure
it's a little more involved than that.

The point was to make a point by using the same tactics as the
antismokerist epidemiologists that got smoking practically banned by
doing the same thing, or worse - I haven't checked the numbers lately, but
I've heard that as smoking rates have declined, cancer rates have remained
steady or increased, along with obesity, diabetes, asthma - yes, as
smoking has decreased, asthma has increased! and so on. But I've known all
along that they are idologues and so will find a way to "prove" their
point. (the antismokerists, that is.)

But it does kinda show how logic flies out the window when you're on a
crusade.

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Dave Hinz]

Personally, I'd prefer the Terrorist acts to be confined to US soil rather than exported and exacerbated on European and Near
East soil.

Personally, I think you're a troll and/or watste of skin, bits, and
time.
<plonk>

 

[Jim Thompson]

Personally, I think you're a troll and/or waste of skin, bits, and
time.
<plonk>

Mullens is right up there with Bemelman and Sloman... all out of the
same blue-nosed tree-hugging leftist weenie socialist cookie cutter...
just like Win Hill ;-)

...Jim Thompson