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Jim Thompson
Only leftist weenies are tortured ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it
Only leftist weenies are tortured ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Harold and Susan Vordos
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True. Sad, but true.
Harold
True. Sad, but true.
Harold
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tillius
Only leftist weenies are tortured ;-)
and all it takes to do that is the application of logic and reason.
Tillman
and all it takes to do that is the application of logic and reason.
Tillman
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Jim Thompson
Bwahahahahaha! Good one!
...Jim Thompson
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Winfield Hill
Jim Thompson wrote...
It seems clear many innocent people have been tortured by us, and
they were not left-wing political types at all. They were random
people turned in for a bounty worth a year's pay, or more, and/or
for local gain on the part of the warlord involved, and thereafter
unchecked by any reasonable process.
Unhuh, you'd guffaw if I was tortured? **asshole**
It seems clear many innocent people have been tortured by us, and
they were not left-wing political types at all. They were random
people turned in for a bounty worth a year's pay, or more, and/or
for local gain on the part of the warlord involved, and thereafter
unchecked by any reasonable process.
Unhuh, you'd guffaw if I was tortured? **asshole**
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Jim Thompson
Someone here said that leftist weenies have no sense of humor. You
just proved it. Also no observation skills... you missed the smiley
;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
OK - here's where I have a bone to pick with the warmakers. What,
exactly, does "seen as a sign of weakness" mean, but more importantly,
possibly fundamentally so, is: What gives you the magical power
to see into their minds, and into the future?
Just answer those two things, and then we can continue the
discussion based on the assumption that _your_ conjectures are
The Truth. ;-)
Thanks!
Rich
and would only further embolden them, rather
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
So, what do you do, kill everybody in the world? Or only those who
disagree with you? You have the weaponry, you know. You could obliterate
all life on the planet maybe a thousand times over.
Is that your true goal? The end of all life, just to prove a point?
(Which, I might point out, is wrong?)
Geezis what a bunch of nazi wannabes...
Sigh,
Rich
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
Yeah. When the nazis get in power, that's always the way it happens -
the torturing gets done by the ones who actually deserve to be
tortured, because they're actively evil, not just dupes.
You don't have to base you life on hate, you know.
But well, you must live your own life, for you shall surely die your
own death.
Good Luck!
Rich
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Rich Grise
Well, I'd say anyone who advocates torture while calling it "humor"
is very ill indeed, and needs medical attention.
Sorry.
Rich
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
Oh, hell, let them define themselves as whoever they want to. Who
needs lines on the ground anyway?
Then, of course, the oil problem rears its ugly head, and we skirt
frighteningly close to the territory where the US would have to admit
what it's _really_ doing over there, besides sucking up to Saudi Arabia
and that other one. Qatar, or Kuwait, or something.
But NOOOO!!! That's not enough! They have to have it _*ALL*_!!!!
Feh
Rich
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Jim Thompson
Sheeesh! I was ONLY going to torture leftist weenies ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Harold and Susan Vordos
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian said:
I'm likely one of the least politically knowledgeable people on these
groups. My comments are based on common sense, or at least I think that's
what it is. I'm neither a republican nor a democrat, and would be ashamed
to be associated with the likes of either party. As far as I'm concerned,
they're all a bunch of slackers seeking betterment of their own positions,
and to hell with the country. What this country needs is a good ol' guy
like Truman.
Am I in favor of the war? Not for the reasons it happened, which likely
have nothing at all to do with what we've been told. I think it was
retribution for an individual trying to kill someone's daddy years ago, if
you get my drift. No price too great to pay when it gets down to pay-back
time. That you might end up in control of the world's second largest oil
reserves likely didn't hurt, either.
The problem at hand isn't as simple as it may appear (the hell you say!).
If we walked away today, do you really think the terrorists would be happy
to abandon their cause? Haven't they been trying, for years, to damage us
in any way they can? In my estimation, when they are willing to kill
innocent women and children, they've pretty well dictated their policy.
They want anyone that doesn't agree with them dead. They appear to desire
world domination, which, of course, isn't likely to happen, but they'll keep
chipping away at society until none of us have a sense of security. Better
we fight them there than here, and they've already displayed their ability
to do that. You do recall 9-11, yes?
In my mind, if we abandon the cause, the terrorists will likely see it as a
sign of defeat, and ramp up their activities. Remember, they want us dead,
not just out of their countries. What *do* we do?
Harold
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Gunner Asch
We do? Its policy? Cites please!
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
Odd..Id say that the Jews have a much better case for being upset
because of the attempted genocide of the Isreali peoples by the Arabs.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
Which profits are those again?
http://economie.moldova.org/comentarii/eng/261/
or perhaps you would care to google "oil for food + corruption" ?
On the other hand..the Left claims very little oil is being produced,
so its hardly a factor, now is it?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
Perhaps you could phrase this question to the survivors of the WTC,
both 1 and 2, the Buddhists in Afghanistan, the survivors of the Bali
blasts and so forth? Or how about the Jordanians?
Im sure they would be happy to discuss the matter with you.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
No, I'm posting it as an assertion. I'm calling on America to Do The
Experiment. Pull the troops out of every place except the ones where
we have been explicitly, overtly invited by a recognized government
to do whatever they asked us there to do. (which is a whole nother
topic, and a digression - back to the topicLet "those people" have
their own country, in their own fashion, and if they want to kill each
other, let them. They are not children, albeit the warlovers want to
pretend that they can be treated as such.
The 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers was clearly retaliation for the
American-supported, American-financed destruction of the tallest
building in Beirut, allegedly by Israel.
America should declare Peace. Stop making war on people - we don't
really need to, unless the rulers' real agenda is simply to loot
their oil. If that's the case, then let's admit it. "Hey! We won!
We're King Of The World! So now, we can take your lunch money any
time we want to, and there's nothing you can do about it!"
I hate bullies - they should all be tortured to death.
Thanks,
Rich
[Philosophizer chimes in: But isn't it a terrible injustice to
punish Body for the sins of Mind?)
and when a W-80 bursts over NYC..your plan is what again?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
says the fellow much in need of a visit with nice Mr. Electroshock.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Gunner Asch
The Reds were Nazi's?????????
Somebody change the history books quickly!!!!
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
