vaughn said:
Yes, but that has to do with *How Well* pensions are funded, not where
the actual dollars come from to do the funding. It really makes no
difference if you first hand the money to the employee and then take it
back! I agree, pensions should be funded from TODAY's budget, not left
for future generations to pay.
Yes, but others die before they collect a dime. Properly designed,
everything is supposed to average out and the system is supposed to work.
I don't disagree, but the discussion was about local government pension
systems.
How far are you willing to go with that concept? Are you willing to see
retirees starving in the streets?
No but how many people were staring in the 50s, we had a lot less taxes
and
regulation.
Also if the government gets out of the way we have organizations that will
help the poor.
We would have more of these if the government didn't interfere, and they are
closer to
the situation, not just the government give your and my money to people who
don't deserve it.
We get the government we deserve. Ultimately, it is up to the voters, but
voters do not tend tp be long-term thinkers, so the politicians do what
gets them elected and keeps them in office. So we end up with the
government we deserve.
Did I remember to mention; we get the government we deserve?
Vaughn
Vauhn, I'm working hard to change what we have now. The leadership is
going down the road of European socialism. This is America, we are
different,
we believe the people give government power, not the reverse.
Our forefathers devised a great plan along with capitalism, that created
great wealth, the poor in America have cellphones and cable tv and drive
cars
the kids have video games and two tvs..
The poor in many countries have mud huts and lack of food.
Makes it difficult for me to feel sorry for poor Americans.
There is so much opportunity here that we can't keep people out!!!!
I'm married into a legal immigrant family. They came hear with nothing,
very little english, but here because there is oppurtunity. They have worked
hard for 30 yrs. My wifes brother and sister are millionares, another one
brother and
sister are doing good but don't have a million. Now their children 3
pharmasists,
at over $100,000 a year, one $175,000. One child is chemical engineer,
Don't know exactly but he just got a raise of $35,000, ya that's the raise
only.
He's well over $200,000 a year. There's more to tell but you get the point,
education was the key to all of the children. Hard work and many hours for
the parents.
I'm a bit jealous, but they deserve all they have because they worked and
earned it.
The freedom we have is slowly being taken away. Help save America.
If you want to worry about the poor, poor health is a reason to be poor,
My father had a bad heart attack at 43, It was tough and he had help,
but a healthy person can work and not be poor.
I see many people who would rather get a government check than work.
If they are healthy, they should be forced to work, at least to get the
check there
should be large room where they go 5 days a week for 8 hrs and sit. Then on
Friday, if they made all 40 hours they get there check. I bet welfare rolls
would
drop quickly. Another thing, unemployment, when the max benefit is six
months
amazing how jobs are found in the 5th month, when benefits are lengthened to
1 yr, jobs are found in the 11th month.
I know, it's human nature, government needs to be aware and design programs
that bring out the best in humans, not the worst.
End of rant for now, I have work to do, did I mention we are open 10 hrs, 7
days,
363 days a year. Well ya gotta rest sometimes. Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Mike
