Contract circuit board maker source?

[Active8]

Thank you! I had to go back.

How do you know?

In the case of the US, have you searched the USPTO's archives for
possible infringement from each of your products for at least
seventeen years prior to the date you announced that that product was
available?

Is it seventeen now? I get patent and trademark times messed up. I
though one of them was up to 20 yrs.

 

[Active8]

fengjianqing wrote (without context:

People have been asking you to include part of the previous post in
your post.

But he posted both messages at the same time and John's request came
later.

Monkey see, monkey do is the way. It's either his first usenet
experience, or he's not very observant.

 

[Active8]

Microwave Oven with the Door Hinge at the Operator's Right-Hand Side,
And Control Panel and Door Opening at the Operator's Left.
Copyright (c) 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997,
1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 Richard M. Grise.

You may protect your words with that, but not your ideas.

 

[JeffM]

fengjianqing wrote (without context:

It's either his first usenet experience, or he's not very observant.
Mike (Active8)

Both, I think. The totality of his Usenet posts:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...AAU2oLLYI1j523EAGhmHFS1WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww

 

[Active8]

I'm putting a sentence back in for context:

Both, I think. The totality of his Usenet posts:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...AAU2oLLYI1j523EAGhmHFS1WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww

Good research and conclusion, Sam Spade. So he's *lower* than a
monkey.

 

[John Fields]

Thank you! I had to go back.

Is it seventeen now? I get patent and trademark times messed up. I
though one of them was up to 20 yrs.

 

[Active8]

Why you can see so many websites have flash. Because the servicer tell to
the owner of the website-- the flash is beautiful and wonderful for
others' first eye to see you website. And from this feather the servicer
company can earn more.

For the beginning business with China, I also 100% agree you should take
care about the quality, the price, the time... But if you do not to try
you do not know, you will lose chance. More and more company purchase
directly from China. Why? It is not only because the lower price, also
because you pay the lower money you can get the same quality products or
the higher quality. This is true!
So at first give yourself chance to try. You will earn from China.

Hey China. Start buying more stuff from the US.

 

[Bob Masta]

Hey China. Start buying more stuff from the US.

Ahhh, *besides* T-bills. At the rate China is buying up
US debt, we are losing any semblance of influence over
them. And at the rate Dubya is running up debt in his
quest to make the world safe for Big Business, he may
just as well mail the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
over to Bejing.




Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom

D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com

 

[Active8]

Ahhh, *besides* T-bills. At the rate China is buying up
US debt, we are losing any semblance of influence over
them. And at the rate Dubya is running up debt in his
quest to make the world safe for Big Business, he may
just as well mail the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
over to Bejing.

clinton already did that as well as emasculating our special forces
and CT capabilities, but I've been hearing ugly shit about bush and
if it's true, I'm disappointed. Too many biases to discover the
truth unless... I guess I'd have to read the congressional records
or something. I'm so happy I could sheisse, not.

 

[Rich Grise]

It is a bit strange if "leftie" versions are not produced already,
considering that different kitchen layouts may need such versions, and
there is probably a market for lefthanders.

It's not so much about left-handed people, as kitchen layout. The most
glaring example was my Mom's apartment - they had a built-in over the
range, up against the right-hand wall. And she kept getting hit on the
head by the door - it's terribly inconvenient, and in the way. If I
had the power to sign an LC for 100K or 1M, I'd just order a boatload or
so and take them to the stores. The design is trivial; I'm hoping that
whoever does jump on it throws a crumb or two my way, just for the idea.

FWIW, last night I dreamed that I asked somebody if they could spare five
bucks, and she gave me a wad of fives - about fifty, a hundred bucks, so
maybe that's a sign. ;-)

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Roger Johansson]

It's not so much about left-handed people, as kitchen layout. The most
glaring example was my Mom's apartment - they had a built-in over the
range, up against the right-hand wall. And she kept getting hit on the
head by the door - it's terribly inconvenient, and in the way. If I
had the power to sign an LC for 100K or 1M, I'd just order a boatload
or so and take them to the stores. The design is trivial; I'm hoping
that whoever does jump on it throws a crumb or two my way, just for the
idea.

I did a quick search on the web for ("left hinged" microwave)

In several places I see sentences like this about microwave ovens:

"Placement of oven. Will you need a left-hinged or bottom hinged model?
How about the vent? A front-vented model can be placed under an upper
cabinet"

So it seems like a lot of people assume, or know, that there are left
hinged models, but so far I have not actually found one.

<http://housewares.aubuchonhardware.com/buyers_guides/all_about_microwave_ovens.asp>

 

[Roger Johansson]

So it seems like a lot of people assume, or know, that there are left

hinged models, but so far I have not actually found one.

Found a left-hinged microwave oven, here:

http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=detail&product=em200

 

[Rich Grise]

Found a left-hinged microwave oven, here:

http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=detail&product=em200

See how the control panel is to the viewer's right? Does its door stick
out between the chamber and the panel?

What happens if you try "right-hinged"? 'cause that's what it actually is.
And the panel would have to be on the left, cause that's the side where
the door opening is. I'd think whoever puts it out there would hype the
crap out of it, or go to big builders of apartment buildings, where every
two apartments are mirror images of each other. (they do that so the
kitchens and bathrooms can go back-to-back - half as many pipe chutes.)

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Found a left-hinged microwave oven, here:

http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=detail&product=em200

Yeah, unfortunately, left-_hinged_. Here's a figure from their
installation instructions:

http://www.neodruid.net/images/Micro_Door-1.png

and the one I want to sell a billion of:

http://www.neodruid.net/images/Micro_Door-1R.png

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Roger Johansson]

Yeah, unfortunately, left-_hinged_. Here's a figure from their
installation instructions:

Oooops.

I tried ("right hinged" microwave) now and got:

"Gaggenau makes a right hinged microwave. It has a curved glass
door to match their oven. It is not available to the U.S. market.
You could import one through one of the freight fowarder vendors
discussed under the induction cooktop threads here."

Look at the picture here
http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=microwaves

 

[Rich Grise]

Oooops.

I tried ("right hinged" microwave) now and got:

"Gaggenau makes a right hinged microwave. It has a curved glass
door to match their oven. It is not available to the U.S. market.
You could import one through one of the freight fowarder vendors
discussed under the induction cooktop threads here."

Look at the picture here
http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=microwaves

Well, I still don't see one there, but there's this:

http://www.wickedsavings.com/HB56R550B

at GBP622 =:-O, and the Siemens site doesn't even list it.

I tell ya, the country needs this product, and I don't have enough money
to do it myself. All I need is about a million dollars, and I know a guy
who can have boatloads of them coming from China in a couple of weeks.

Hey, Jim Thompson! Didn't you say a million is peanuts? Wanna invest
some? ;-)

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Roger Johansson]

Well, I still don't see one there,

You have some problems with the web browser you use, because it is there
and loads without problems in my browser.

You could try downloading and installing the excellent Opera web browser
so you have an alternative browser for web sites which do not load in
your other browser. http://www.opera.com/download/

but there's this:
http://www.wickedsavings.com/HB56R550B
at GBP622 =:-O, and the Siemens site doesn't even list it.

I doubt that this is a microwave oven. And that is probably the reason
why you could not find it listed. From the text below the picture
"3 wire shelves". And there is not a word about microwaves in that
description.

I found that it was difficult to google for this, because you get so many
false hits, where web pages contain both conventional ovens and microwave
ovens. The "hinged" part is about a conventional oven, and microwave
ovens are mentioned on the same page, which is put together in the lines
quoted by google, so you get the impression that there are lots of hits.

I had got many such false hits before I found the real hit above.

 

[Roger Johansson]

If you cannot load that web page you can download a doc file about it.

http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/pdf/em221_gb_en_planning_data.doc

From the doc file:

"Hingeing must be specified when ordering as the door is not
interchangeable."

Maybe the micro is not for sale without the conventional oven below it.
But the micro is mechanically a separate unit, which shows clearly in
the picture in the doc file.


Another alternative:

I can't be too difficult to rebuild a standard model if you really need a
right hinged micro. Some metal sheet working, creating new hinges on the
other side, turning the old door upside-down and moving a door-closed
electrical switch to the other side. Maybe easier, and cheaper, than
finding and importing one.

 

[Lord Garth]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:38:12 +0100, Roger Johansson wrote:

I tell ya, the country needs this product, and I don't have enough money
to do it myself. All I need is about a million dollars, and I know a guy
who can have boatloads of them coming from China in a couple of weeks.

Hey, Jim Thompson! Didn't you say a million is peanuts? Wanna invest
some? ;-)

Half your dream inventory....design a door like on a toaster oven, hinged on
the
bottom. Thanks, I take 10%!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Another alternative:

I can't be too difficult to rebuild a standard model if you really need a
right hinged micro. Some metal sheet working, creating new hinges on the
other side, turning the old door upside-down and moving a door-closed
electrical switch to the other side. Maybe easier, and cheaper, than
finding and importing one.

Three switches on the door is the usual setup. Two to keep it from
working with a warped door and the third is a fail-safe.