Eeyore said:
Actually it's far from that good and may even be the reverse. What do you
think
those cooling towers are for at power plants. Half the energy gets 'thrown
away'.
**Indeed. A modern thermal plant can reach almost 50% efficiency. FAR
greater than an IC engine in a car. Look at it this way:
A modern petrol engine can reach around 35% efficiency AT BEST. That means,
over a very narrow rev range (though somewhat greater in modern, variable
valve timing type engines). My car manages around 7.1 Litres/100km, when
operating at around 90kph on a flat road. The car weighs around 1,500kg. It
is, for what it is, quite an efficent engine. HOWEVER, under mild
acceleration (say, taking 10 seconds to reach 60kph) fuel consumption rises
to around 30L/100km from 0-30kph and around 25L/100km form 30-60kph. In city
traffic, this occurs far more often than I care to think about. An electric
(of hybrid) vehicle has three, huge advantages under these conditions (which
is the majority for most city dwellers all over the world):
1) Electic motors develop all their torque from 0 RPM up. 'Fuel' economy is
the same, regardless of how hard the car accelerates.
2) Electric motors are approximately the same efficiency, regardless of RPM.
IOW: Whilst a petrol engine is, at BEST, 35% efficient, an electric motor
remains at (say) 80% efficiency.
3) Regenerative braking can be employed, potentially providing spectacular
gains.
Typical electricity generation averages around 30-33% from power plant
energy
input to wall socket. Losses in battery charging may lose another 10-20%
of it
too. It's not like refilling a pail of water, it's like refilling a leaky
pail
of water. so you could easily be in 25% efficiency territory (not
dissinilar to
a modern petrol engine) and worse as you factor in electrical losses in
the
vehicle itself.
**Indeed. You should not consider the MAXIMUM efficiency of an IC engine (as
used in a car) as representative of TYPICAL efficiency. It doesn't work like
that in the real world. A TYPICAL petrol engine would be more like 15%
efficient in real-world conditions. For those with a 'lead foot' and extreme
bumper-to-bumper' driving (ever been to LA, NYC or Sydney?) efficiencies
would be lower still. Electric motors, however, remain at 80-odd %.
In comparison, modern diesel engine efficiency targets for new technology
engines such as ones that eliminate the traditional camshaft are in the
40%
range and large marine diesels already exceed 50% thermal efficiency.
**No argument from me with stationary engines. Because they operate over a
very narrow rev range, their efficiencies can be very impressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärtsilä-Sulzer_RTA96-C
"With a 42.7 MJ/kg fuel, the efficiency is 22.1 MJ/kg / 42.7 MJ/kg =
51.7%."
Apparently MAN make one with ~ 57% efficiency.
**Sure. How many are fitted to your GM cars?