Water Collection Project

[Curbie]

I see we have a lot of work ahead of us. We will take it one step at a
time.

Ok you got me. I do not own a house. I have no pool in my yard, I do not
collect rain water. I do not generate electricity. I don't even drive.
Feel better now?

Take a chill pill Curbie, you might live longer...

Jim Rojas

I never said you don't own a house, drive, or have a pool, more
non-sense and those have nothing to do with misleading people, I did
say that how much rain water you say you collect daily and how you say
you generate electricity is NON-SENSE that is misleading to others at
best, and your over-unity non-sense is a flat-out scam

You need to chill-out with lies, non-sense, and fairy-TALES, they
don't make a pill for that, you could try truth serum but I doubt it
have any affect.

Curbie

 

[Jim Rojas]

No one needs a fifth grade interpreter to see your quote, its right in
these posts, and just in case someone thought I was spinning a Jim
Rajas FAIRY-TALE (my apologies to all for my mis-spelling) I posted
the link, you weren't talking about what you do, you told a poster
"Don't waste you time with solar."

As far as your latest FAIRY-TALE, that you never made over-unity
claims, no fifth grade interpreter is needed here either to see your
quote:
"Watch this video to see the magdrive in action:"

Here's the link to your post where YOU said that:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....erate+3KW"+group:alt.energy.homepower&lnk=nl&

The author of the video you posted, "freeenergysecret" even claims
he's device as a "4X Overunity system." in the link you posted.

Of course car alternators have been providing usable power for
decades, they convert shaft horse-power to electricity, but they don't
produce more output electricity than input energy, which is what you
and "free-energy-secret" are claiming in the link YOU posted and is
the very definition of over-unity YOU now claim you never made. More
lies.

As long as you are familiar with so many fifth graders, why don't you
ask one what happens when they try to lie their way out of the last
lie they told to see if it worked out any better for them than it has
for you.

Curbie

I posted the links to the videos so those who are new to this kind of
thing can get a better idea what others are currently doing. I will try
post my own videos soon enough. I wonder why you don't spread you
pessimistic views on Youtube...don't be afraid. The 1st amendment
applies to you as well.

Remember, this newsgroup is alt.energy.homepower, which implies less
costly ways of getting off the grid. Any idiot can spend $250K on solar
panels, and think they are going green...when in reality, that's not
what going green is all about.

$250K is even a stretch for a business to spend to get off the grid. The
only incentive is a BS government rebate, which are now few and between.
I say screw the government BS programs. Anything they get involved with
usually turns out for the worst, and drives costs even more...

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

I never said you don't own a house, drive, or have a pool, more
non-sense and those have nothing to do with misleading people, I did
say that how much rain water you say you collect daily and how you say
you generate electricity is NON-SENSE that is misleading to others at
best, and your over-unity non-sense is a flat-out scam

You need to chill-out with lies, non-sense, and fairy-TALES, they
don't make a pill for that, you could try truth serum but I doubt it
have any affect.

Curbie

My colleagues said the same thing about what I do for a living...that it
is impossible and can't be done, all lies, etc... Yet I have been doing
it for over 15+ years...That's why I have a thriving business, while the
doubting Thomas' like yourself fade away one at a time...

Jim Rojas
http://www.tech-man.com

 

[Jim Rojas]

If you'd said "because" instead of "and" I'd have shrugged and been
sympathetic - but I have to object to a blanket statement that solar
anything is cost-prohibitive, because I manufactured and sold solar
heating panels that weren't.


It may indeed not make sense for your site - but for folks living
farther north (with less sun and more cold), it made a lot of sense to
spend between twice and three times their annual heating costs for
enough panel area to meet all of their heating requirements for the rest
of their lives.

I was referring to solar electric panels. That is something you are
basically stuck buying. Solar heating can be done on any budget, in a
variety of different ways.

Many people that live in remote areas also have access to running water,
like rivers & streams...that's ideal for getting off the grid.

Solar reflecting mirrors & fresnel lenses have huge possibilities, but
it only works when the sun shines. I would rather use running water that
works 24/7.

Jim Rojas

 

[Curbie]

I posted the links to the videos so those who are new to this kind of
thing can get a better idea what others are currently doing. I will try
post my own videos soon enough. I wonder why you don't spread you
pessimistic views on Youtube...don't be afraid. The 1st amendment
applies to you as well.

Remember, this newsgroup is alt.energy.homepower, which implies less
costly ways of getting off the grid. Any idiot can spend $250K on solar
panels, and think they are going green...when in reality, that's not
what going green is all about.

$250K is even a stretch for a business to spend to get off the grid. The
only incentive is a BS government rebate, which are now few and between.
I say screw the government BS programs. Anything they get involved with
usually turns out for the worst, and drives costs even more...

Jim Rojas

More lies, one would think you've dug yourself a deep enough hole with
your lies, but, you weren't trying to give new people an "idea" of
what others are doing, your words are there in print for anyone to
read, "Don't waste you time with solar. I use RPM technology to
generate 3KW for under $1000, 24/7, rain or shine." basically, don't
waste your time with something that can return something, waste your
time and money on your over-unity non-sense which will eat the
investment and return nothing, YOU posted it there in black and white
no matter how many more lies you tell.

With the way you miscalculate rain and you obvious lack of
understanding of shine it is no wonder you believe you can generate
something from nothing and the impossible for everyone else is
possible for you. Non-sense!

I can see why you'd want me to leave here and go to YouTube it would
be far easier for you to mislead people, you can keep dreaming, but
it's not going to happen.

Remember, this newsgroup is alt.energy.homepower, not
alt.energy.fairy-TALES or alt.energy.scams

Curbie

 

[Jim Rojas]

More lies, one would think you've dug yourself a deep enough hole with
your lies, but, you weren't trying to give new people an "idea" of
what others are doing, your words are there in print for anyone to
read, "Don't waste you time with solar. I use RPM technology to
generate 3KW for under $1000, 24/7, rain or shine." basically, don't
waste your time with something that can return something, waste your
time and money on your over-unity non-sense which will eat the
investment and return nothing, YOU posted it there in black and white
no matter how many more lies you tell.

With the way you miscalculate rain and you obvious lack of
understanding of shine it is no wonder you believe you can generate
something from nothing and the impossible for everyone else is
possible for you. Non-sense!

I can see why you'd want me to leave here and go to YouTube it would
be far easier for you to mislead people, you can keep dreaming, but
it's not going to happen.

Remember, this newsgroup is alt.energy.homepower, not
alt.energy.fairy-TALES or alt.energy.scams

Curbie

I don't want you to leave Curbie. On the contrary, you make things
rather interesting here. I just wish you would put more thought into
what you post. You don't give constructive criticism. You like to
badger, and taunt. It's easy to condemn and belittle ideas. But you go
above and beyond that. It is borderline neurotic.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

Perhaps the problem is that your explanations resemble the false or
misleading claims of con artists even though you may be completely
legitimate. I tried repeatedly to get you to describe your power
SOURCE and instead you wrote about magnetic shaft couplers and
collapsing back EMF fields.

jsw

I did explain the source numerous times. It is 2 banks of 24VDC
batteries. There is no magic here. Just a simple way to generate power.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

Good example:
Batteries are a storage medium, NOT a primary source of energy unless
you replenish the electrodes with fresh metal.
Perhaps we just aren't communicating well enough.

jsw

My 3KW RPM system is setup in our family home in Puerto Rico. Or else I
would have posted pictures of it already.

I will see if I can put together a smaller scale unit with one output
alternator, one charging motor or alternator, 2 battery packs, and a
750w car inverter or UPS.

A standard 100Amp car alternator running at idle speed will provide
50 Amps, or 600 Watts. This will be enough for a demo.

I do have security cameras, but no web based DVR. Maybe I can order one
from eBay so we can view all this live on the net.

Jim Rojas
Technical Manuals Online!
http://www.tech-man.com
8002 Cornwall Lane
Tampa, FL 33615-4604
813-884-6335

 

[Josepi]

Always another "solution" LOL

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/deluded

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/diluted


I never said you don't own a house, drive, or have a pool, more
non-sense and those have nothing to do with misleading people, I did
say that how much rain water you say you collect daily and how you say
you generate electricity is NON-SENSE that is misleading to others at
best, and your over-unity non-sense is a flat-out scam

You need to chill-out with lies, non-sense, and fairy-TALES, they
don't make a pill for that, you could try truth serum but I doubt it
have any affect.

Curbie

 

[Josepi]

With all the electrical energy payback from the magnet generators you get
why would you even bother? Just buy a water supply company.
You must a be a filthy rich bastard by now.

Why use water from a galvanized metal source that will eat your insides? (we
hope)



I have a metal roof, so I redirected rain water runoff to go directly to
my swimming pool. This allows me to stop using the ground water which
contains high levels of sulphur. Though the smell does go away after a
small dosage of bleach, I feel better using the water run off. In a
normal 1/2 inch rainy day, I can collect 1000+ gallons without any
trouble. On those downpour days, the pool overflows, which is no big
deal. I am using a 15ft x 4ft aboveground pool, this holds about 5000
gallons. My normal monthly usage is around 6000 gallons.

I installed a check valve on the return side of the Sand & DE filters.
This prevents drawing unfilter water from the return side. I installed a
brass 4 port hose adapter on the inlet & outlet sides of the filters.
This allows me to service each filter without shutting down the water
supply. I then installed a parallel bank of 4 10 inch .5 micron
polyester filters in clear filter housings in my laundry room. From
there it gets connected to both my toilet tanks.

This setup should drop my water consumption by 80 percent. The showers,
and faucets will continue to be supplied by the county, until I can
install a water conditioner before the 4 parallel filters. I was hoping
to find a nice whole house reverse osmosis system for under $500, but I
will keep looking.

Jim Rojas

 

[Josepi]

Why don't you bring God into your arguments when you don't understand the
subject you bring up and you want to be evasive?

People will just think you are a religious idiot instead of a complete moron
attempting to make money off other's ignorance.


I do understand that you have deep rooted personal issues. Which
explains why you feel it is your sole duty to stop people from going green.

I have run into people like you before...always on the defensive...it's
ok. One day you will drop your guard and let the sunshine in...

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

Why don't you bring God into your arguments when you don't understand the
subject you bring up and you want to be evasive?

People will just think you are a religious idiot instead of a complete moron
attempting to make money off other's ignorance.


I do understand that you have deep rooted personal issues. Which
explains why you feel it is your sole duty to stop people from going green.

I have run into people like you before...always on the defensive...it's
ok. One day you will drop your guard and let the sunshine in...

Jim Rojas

First off, I do not believe in any God. That would be believing in the
biggest fairytale every told...But I do believe in the message...a big
difference.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

With all the electrical energy payback from the magnet generators you get
why would you even bother? Just buy a water supply company.
You must a be a filthy rich bastard by now.

Why use water from a galvanized metal source that will eat your insides? (we
hope)



I have a metal roof, so I redirected rain water runoff to go directly to
my swimming pool. This allows me to stop using the ground water which
contains high levels of sulphur. Though the smell does go away after a
small dosage of bleach, I feel better using the water run off. In a
normal 1/2 inch rainy day, I can collect 1000+ gallons without any
trouble. On those downpour days, the pool overflows, which is no big
deal. I am using a 15ft x 4ft aboveground pool, this holds about 5000
gallons. My normal monthly usage is around 6000 gallons.

I installed a check valve on the return side of the Sand& DE filters.
This prevents drawing unfilter water from the return side. I installed a
brass 4 port hose adapter on the inlet& outlet sides of the filters.
This allows me to service each filter without shutting down the water
supply. I then installed a parallel bank of 4 10 inch .5 micron
polyester filters in clear filter housings in my laundry room. From
there it gets connected to both my toilet tanks.

This setup should drop my water consumption by 80 percent. The showers,
and faucets will continue to be supplied by the county, until I can
install a water conditioner before the 4 parallel filters. I was hoping
to find a nice whole house reverse osmosis system for under $500, but I
will keep looking.

Jim Rojas

Rooftop water is better for you...have you ever had your water tested? I
did. 250PPM is not really drinkable, but that's what the county sends to
my house. Do you have any idea how many miles of failing infrastructure
is between the water treatment plant and your home?

Our county just implemented new water usage prices. It ranges from 1.63
to $16 a cubic meter, or something to that effect. Some homeowners have
been slapped with $800-2500 monthly bills with no leaks...obviously
something is wrong.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

Why don't you bring God into your arguments when you don't understand the
subject you bring up and you want to be evasive?

People will just think you are a religious idiot instead of a complete moron
attempting to make money off other's ignorance.


I do understand that you have deep rooted personal issues. Which
explains why you feel it is your sole duty to stop people from going green.

I have run into people like you before...always on the defensive...it's
ok. One day you will drop your guard and let the sunshine in...

Jim Rojas

I was raised Catholic, but I learned at a young age that religion is
just a tool used to keep people afraid of going to hell. I have no such
fear. Let me judged...

If I can't laugh in heaven, I don't want to go there...Martin Luther King

Jim Rojas

 

[Josepi]

You learned avoidance of issues at an early age.


I was raised Catholic, but I learned at a young age that religion is
just a tool used to keep people afraid of going to hell. I have no such
fear. Let me judged...

If I can't laugh in heaven, I don't want to go there...Martin Luther King

Jim Rojas

 

[Josepi]

I prefer my water without all the lead and petroleum byproducts in it.

I pump my own and have it checked,

Good avoidance of your embarrassing future here.


Rooftop water is better for you...have you ever had your water tested? I
did. 250PPM is not really drinkable, but that's what the county sends to
my house. Do you have any idea how many miles of failing infrastructure
is between the water treatment plant and your home?

Our county just implemented new water usage prices. It ranges from 1.63
to $16 a cubic meter, or something to that effect. Some homeowners have
been slapped with $800-2500 monthly bills with no leaks...obviously
something is wrong.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

You learned avoidance of issues at an early age.


I was raised Catholic, but I learned at a young age that religion is
just a tool used to keep people afraid of going to hell. I have no such
fear. Let me judged...

If I can't laugh in heaven, I don't want to go there...Martin Luther King

Jim Rojas

What I learned is to think for myself at an early age. Blind faith just
isn't for me. It may suit most of you, but blind faith usually leads to
the corruption and misinterpretation of bible teachings in order to set
a monetary goal for those in charge.

The Catholic church is totally corrupt. That's why I gave it up at 10
years old. You have to be a complete moron to be into Scientology. My
wife was born and raised Lutheran. In 35 years, they never asked for
donations, or demanded a set amount from us. She gives what she can when
she can. That is a true sign of a real church.

I have friends and family that pledge 25-50 percent of their earnings to
their "church"...idiotic.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim Rojas]

I prefer my water without all the lead and petroleum byproducts in it.

I pump my own and have it checked,

Good avoidance of your embarrassing future here.


Rooftop water is better for you...have you ever had your water tested? I
did. 250PPM is not really drinkable, but that's what the county sends to
my house. Do you have any idea how many miles of failing infrastructure
is between the water treatment plant and your home?

Our county just implemented new water usage prices. It ranges from 1.63
to $16 a cubic meter, or something to that effect. Some homeowners have
been slapped with $800-2500 monthly bills with no leaks...obviously
something is wrong.

Jim Rojas

What embarrassment? I have already stated that I only use the water to
wash our clothes and flush the toilets with it. What is so wrong about
that?

Jim Rojas

 

[Bob F]

Care to share how you are doing this?

Jim Rojas

Ummmm. They are called "power tools". I discovered my house has funny little
holes in plastic plates on the walls. You just push the end of wire from the
tool into the funny holes, and then the tools are way more powerful than just
about any battery tools.

 

[Jim Rojas]

Ummmm. They are called "power tools". I discovered my house has funny little
holes in plastic plates on the walls. You just push the end of wire from the
tool into the funny holes, and then the tools are way more powerful than just
about any battery tools.

Very interesting...You can hook up the battery pack pictured to a
750-1000w inverter and get portable...of course you need to wire the
battery to 12 volts instead of 24v.

Jim Rojas
Technical Manuals Online!
http://www.tech-man.com
8002 Cornwall Lane
Tampa, FL 33615-4604
813-884-6335