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The Natural Philosopher

Jim said:
Civilization as we know it would end tomorrow if the greenies got their
way. Duh.

Civilization as *you* know it s going to end tomorrow anyway.

Its merely a question as to 'what comes next'
 
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Eeyore

Anthony said:
Perhaps only the school kids who have passed gun safety and
training classes and which have proven to be responsible and
drug free. Oh, and the teachers who have done the same. Maybe
we could start with just the responsible and drug free teachers.

It only takes one person out of an entire classroom shooting back
to stop a massacre.

Unbelievable. Ever heard of something called mental health. Or jealousy ?

NO_ONE with a gun can be considered safe.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

The said:
Not since Bush, no.


Nope. But its time to vote the bastards out and keep voting them out
until you get some PUBLIC SERVANTS in - not a bunch of oligarchs.

Now there's a truth. Politicians have lost the concept of public service and
simply use public office to advance their own position (and that of their
friends) these days.

They also seem to be more interesting in being our masters than our *public
servants*.

Graahm
 
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Eeyore

Andy said:
I draw my own conclusions from the way in which illegal handgun use has
soared since legal handgun ownership was banned.

No it didn't.

It's a more recent phenomenon related to a growing gang culture. In part at least I balme
American TV imports. They glamourise crime and crinimality.

Graham
 
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Huge

You can do other things with cars and knives.

There is nothing a handgun is good for except killing people.
Wrong.

That is its primary function. It s NOT a target weapon: that is normally
restricted to specialized .22 caliber guns.

Wrong.

Still posting the nonsense, then.
 
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Huge

NO_ONE with a gun can be considered safe.

Why is it that the moment the subject of guns comes up, so many people lose the
power of rational thought?
 
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Huge

Gun ownership in Switzerland is not as widespread as the gun lobby likes to make out. A lot
of them are militrary rifles too, not handguns.

Whoosh! Just *look* at those goalposts move!
 
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Huge

The 'vast majority' of hand gun 'owners' in the UK are criminals.

An argument so circular that I'm surprised it isn't in a vault in Paris
somewhere, along with the standard kilogram and metre.
 
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Arnold Walker

Eeyore said:
Unbelievable. Ever heard of something called mental health. Or jealousy ?

NO_ONE with a gun can be considered safe.

Graham
So much for your opinion of cops.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Anthony said:
Nothing in this world, people, animals, pianos, cell phones, is so
completely safe that they can never, ever, under any weird set of
bizarre circumstances, harm you.
However the ones whose main purpose IS harming you,or whose instant
misuse is extremely dangerous, are restricted.

If complete safety is your desire in life then you need to lock
yourself away in a padded cell right now because you're probably
your own worst enemy.

The vast majority of gun owners, like car drivers, are fairly
responsible and not considered to be a threat to others. Your
world view may not accept this but then that's your problem.

Does the USA not have driving licenses and at least some certificate of
competency to drive?

Is there a gun license with equal competency required?

Are schoolkids encouraged as one poster here has it, to take cars into
school to defend themselves from other cars?

Your comparison is entirely valid: Your conclusions are not.
 
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Arnold Walker

Actually was a small part of a bigger problem in New Orleans,that had folks
bailing like rats off a sinking ship.
For 25 years,before the straw that broke the camels back....Kitrina.
Never seen any storm victims like the folks we housed from New Orleans.
Most other storm victims, in times past were thankful for what they could
get.
And fairly peaceful .
That was not the case with New Orlean victims.......drugs ,vandalism,you
name it to the point .
That you were seeing schools,churches ,and even home security throwing them
out.
Some at the time ,had stayed in motels for 6months without getting a job or
much of anything.
When the government started clearing out motel rooms, that needed remodeling
after they left.
Some of them victims would probaly still be living in them motel rooms and
collecting food stamps
,if we let them.The thought never occured to that group ,that when things
happen someone other than the government does something.Like you making at
least a token effort at fixing your own life.
The damage from vandalism by the 500 victims staying here was $250,000 ,by
the time the chuches,schools ($43,000
of it was done to schoolclass rooms in two weeks while the schools sorted
them out to other shelter locations), and motels repaired the damage. And we
are talking just vanadalism expense ,not food,clothing ,and shelter like a
"normal" victims would have. By the time it was over, more than a few of us,
were wondering at the definition of victim.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Dave said:
The 'vast majority' of hand gun 'owners' in the UK are criminals. And keep
them for criminal purposes.

And the rest are licensed ,after showing they have a need to own them.
and are responsible enough to do so.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

John said:
What's absurdly simple about devising 'containment' for radioactively and
thermally hot chemicals, that must remain hermetically sealed for the order
of millions of years?

Reinforced concrete and a lot of the earths crust.

In fact nature only uses the latter..

You will find that e.g. Dartmoor is a fairly illegal place to live. If
that was somewhere that someone had dumped waste to the level of
radioactivity it dipslay, there would be a huge scandal.

Because God did it, its all right allegedly.
 
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The Natural Philosopher

Mark said:
I wonder whether this practise is only common with company cars.
However, if a £20,000 car loses 1/2 its value in 3 years that is a
loss of £10,000. I can't believe it costs this much to service it.

No, but it costs something. A typical sales rep will do up to 60,000
miles in a year.

Often the cars are sold after one year, never having even had the oil
checked.

Or after two with just an oil top up.

It's less the cost of the car or he service, so much as simply the
hassle of getting it done. Ad teh loss of a days 'trips'

If you are car pool manager, or the gy in charge of compny cars, its
much easier to do a fixed price deal on e.g. contract hire and write off
the total cost,than buy and sell and service cars, as well.

Maybe we should tax them more heavily?

They already are.
Tax the fuel as well.
 
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Owain

Anthony said:
One method to deal with radioactive waste is to store it in regular
containers that only last, say, 25 years. Every 20 years (more or less)
the stuff gets transfered to new containers or earlier if they leak.
Needless to say, this could get expensive.

Or we could just send it all to China, and pretend the problem doesn't
exist any more.

Owain
 
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Arnold Walker

Jim said:
I have been there, and you are only partially correct. Some of it was
unavoidable, but the areas inside the levees in the city of NOLA proper,
were largely dmgd by incompetence, but the area subsides at about 3mm per
annum, so it will be moot soon anyways......
Which might be the reason much of the rebuilding is on high ground.not in
the soupbowl.
Like the political figures seem to want....taxes revenues have been on a
major decline due to
lack of residents in some areas.
 
T

The Natural Philosopher

Mark said:
Shotguns can easily be used as "anti-person" weapons. The
modification is simple.

Indeed, BUT they are less than ideal, and they do have other valid uses,
and are hard to conceal unless sawn off, and a sawn off shotgun is ipso
facto a very serious thing to have in your possession.
 
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The Natural Philosopher

Mark said:
Is it picking up again? That's good news, but I hadn't noticed ;-)

There is a chance that by the weekend, we may have an F1 world champion
and be the top bananas in Rugby: Why even UK football is slightly better
since the bullshitting swede vanished.
 
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Eeyore

Huge said:
Why is it that the moment the subject of guns comes up, so many people lose the
power of rational thought?

The sole purpose of a handgun is to kill or main people. They have no legitimate
role, least of all being carried on the person, in a civilised society. Of course
it may be that USA doesn't qualify as a civilised society. That would explain a
lot.

Get real.

Graham
 
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