Re: UK RICS report says solar takes 208 years to repay...nonsense! Help needed!

[Huge]

Because maybe most sane people know irrational people feel the need to
carry them.

QED.

Immediate resort to "ad hominem". Ostentatious anonymity.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

That is of course bollocks, as the family of Jean Charles de Menezes
will testify.

The police are NOT armed look at them in the streets. If there are guns
involved in a situation the armed response team will be called. Special
units.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

Totally correct. The are not ornaments.

Drivel, pure and simple.

That wasn't me at all.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

Wrong.

<snip total drivel>

 

[Andy Hall]

Totally correct. The are not ornaments.


That wasn't me at all.

At least not the first one anyway....

 

[Steve Firth]

The police are NOT armed
Bullshit.

look at them in the streets. If there are guns involved in a situation
the armed response team will be called. Special units.

Are you claiming that these "special units" are not police officers?

 

[Steve Firth]

*plonk*

Well, personally I'm looking forward to the 2008 Olympic people killing
and maiming event.

 

[Steve Firth]

And their record seems to show often at an innocent
party.

Their latest in Kent is the shooting dead of a woman holding a
ball-bearing pistol. In this instance they claim to "know the woman" and
they keep referring to the toy gun as "a firearm". What next, I wonder?
Will spud guns also be referred to as "firearms"?

I see that PC Copper also refers to air guns as "firearms" that is when
they are not referring to them as "dangerously powerful firearms."

Meanshile a Heckler and Koch carried by a policeman apparently shoots
fragrant rose petals, because Drivel assures us that they are not armed.

 

[Huge]

Perhaps we shouldn't have given all those guns and bombs to Britain when
Churchill requested them.....

You didn't "give" them. We bought them. OK, you loaned us the money, but you got
it paid back. There was very little charity involved.

 

[Eeyore]

Wrong.

Give me a good alternative reason.

And don't give me that silly nonsense about 'self-protection'. It counts as the
same as it implies a threat of death or injury.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Drivel, pure and simple.

Target shooting is not why guns were invented.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

*plonk*

Plonked by a gun-loving IDIOT !

Awesome.

Graham

 

[Tom]

Perhaps we shouldn't have given all those guns and bombs to
Britain when Churchill requested them.....

You didn't. You sold them to us on credit at a crippling rate of interest.

Tom

 

[Eeyore]

Three women shot dead by police since 1985.


Oh, so by your book it's OK for the police to gun down unarmed civilians
but it's folly for citizens to enjoy the hobby of shooting at targets
under controlled and regulated conditions?

You're not making any sense.

FWIW the restriction on guns for target shooting is plain silly imho. They could
easily be securely stored.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

The police are NOT armed look at them in the streets. If there are guns
involved in a situation the armed response team will be called. Special
units.

And properly trained unlike in America.

de Menezez wasn't shot because we have special armed police, he was shot because
of a failure in 'intelligence'.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

For the victim, yes.


It might prevent further atrocities, though. Give some of the domestic
security forces arms and they have a habit of firing first and asking
questions afterwards. And their record seems to show often at an innocent
party.

The American answer to this is to be armed yourself and shoot back of course !
Quite how they imagine you'd have the opportunity is something they like to
gloss over.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Are you claiming that these "special units" are not police officers?

I think he's claiming that they are specially trained units rather than just PC
Plod like in the USA.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Right. An "anti-person-who wants to kill me" weapon.
Eeyore, things are rather pleasant in the hundred acre wood, but here in
the real world people want to kill you and take your stuff. I like my things
in my house, my wife not raped, my kids alive, and my blood =inside= my
body.....

This is the usual American story. My wife will be raped, my children murdered in
their beds etc ..... That's merely because you're in the USA and it's a very
violent society, but even so, how often does that actually happen ?

In the UK I think I can confidently say NEVER.

Graham

 

[Steve Firth]

Give me a good alternative reason.

It was there in the post that you replied to and you snipped that
material without comment.

 

[Steve Firth]

Target shooting is not why guns were invented.

So? You said that the sole purpose or rather PURPOSE was to harm people.
And "They have no other function." That was and remains, drivel.