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Engineers also base their conclusions on valid references. Despite
several requests, you have provided none.
You have been pointed to the info. I can't help it if you have no
engineering mind.
Engineers also base their conclusions on valid references. Despite
several requests, you have provided none.
Those incentives are in place.
*IF* what you say is true, auto
manufacturers have already invested
heavily in those engines,
but given them up despite large
investments and big incentives. That
tells us something.
Bob Peterson said:You are making a completely unwarranted
jump between a sound concept (of
which there are a lot) and the concept being
commerically viable (very few
ideas ever make it that far).
Suggesting that some kind of government
mandate is the only thing that will force car
makers to use the QT is the
same as saying it is no good and would
only be useful if people were forced
to use it.
probably not what you meant to say.
its pretty obvious you have
little clue about how the auto industry
has to work to be successful.
You can't take a flyer on something that
barely even has a prototype at present
and decide to switch out all your powerplants
to some future version of that
prototype. No one even knows if the QT is
even viable yet.
I am unaware of any innovation that has a proven track recoird that they
have not gone with. Electronic ignition, fuel injection, tansaxles, front
wheel drive, etc, etc. It just takes a long time to get from the pre-design
phase where the QT is now to the commerically succesful phase. 10-20 years
is not that long to get there.
Its full of BS and fluff. That does not mean that it can't eventually
become commerically successful, only that it is
a LONG way from where it is
now to where it needs to be.
Bob Peterson said:And you know this because of what?
News said:You have been pointed to the info. I can't help it if you have no
engineering mind.
A friend of mine is a an automotive design engineer. For e.g., he has
worked on the Range Rover, Land Rover and Triumph bike engines. I directed
him to the QT. His response was very favourable, saying it was very good
design and sees no problems in implementation - the normal r&d iterations.
He has also worked on Ford designs in which Ford had no input whatsoever -
totally farmed out. I asked him what he thought about it being taken up by
the big boys. His reaction was mixed. One was that they are ultra
conservative. Another that only legislation will force them to look at it.
He also said some may take it up, like they did with the Orbital, and then
having it back burnered, just in case. I rate this guys opinions.
Bob Peterson said:I am always suspicious of people who can only talk in generalities and can't
relaly talk to the specifics of issues. It makes it really hard to
beleiveanything they say. Claiming other people are unable to understand
gibberish is not the answer.
Do you look? They are already in place, emission standards as well as
average fleet economy.
ROTFLMAO!!! Your posts! Remember, you claimed all the major
manufactures bought licenses and a couple even set up factories. It's
OK, we don't believe what you say either.
Hardly. The big incentives are things like "your line will produce
less than xx emissions" and "your average fleet economy will be xx"
So, give us an example of proven, viable alternative power units.
BTW, your orbital engine
is neither proven nor viable at this time.
Rusty Shackleford said:Hey, you asked for a reference, I gave you a reference.
I'm neither, I've read it all. Just because you say it doesn't make
it true.
Why is it, given the large investment the auto makers have made in
this engine (according to you) that they aren't using it?
Gordon Richmond said:"Missedcthe point. The core concept of the current piston power unit
is flawed - that is plain for all to see. It is a heat engine, as
heat is its major product with BHP a by-product. It is highly
inefficient and dirty."
And the quasiturbine is NOT a heat engine? Do tell.
Gordon Richmond
You're right, it's a question I've asked you many times, and a
question you've evaded just as many times.
????
The answer is clear and
has been posted, the orbital motor is not all it's claimed to be.
Because it's better than the orbital.
It really works for one thing.
Harry K said:
So does the standard piston engine moron.
Harry K said:"News" <[email protected]> wrote in message
So the answer is that is still doesn't exist I take it.
Just did. Still comes out that you made a moronic statement. To
clarify for you. The standard piston engine produces more hp than
heat. If you want to contest that, come up with some facts, you are
the one claiming it doesn't.
Harry K said:"News" <[email protected]> wrote in message
You're the one making the claim it exists. It is up to you to prove
it, not me. Is -your- intelligence up to that simple task?