"Quasiturbine" White Paper presented by eMOTION! REPORTS.com

[Saint-Hilaire]

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTEmotionReports0312.html

In English :

Quantum Parallel: The Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
As The Basis For A Simultaneous Paradigm Shift
in Vehicle Propulsion Systems.
* Amidst myriad, and many times unsupportable,
claims of technological breakthroughs capable
-- fuel cells being at the top of this contention --
of inducing vehicular design and engineering paradigm shifts,
we have concluded that the Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
may very well provide impetus to retire the piston engine.
It has served humanity for nearly two centuries, and has earned its rest.
eMOTION! REPORTS.com is providing a comprehensive
white paper that will perhaps allow you to reach the same conclusion...
White Paper in English at :
www.emotionreports.com/downloads/pdfs/Quantum.pdf

En français :

Un parallèle Quantique: La "Quasiturbine"
des Saint-Hilaire À la Base d'un Changement Simultané
de Paradigme en Système de Propulsion des Véhicules.
* Parmi une myriade de prétentions d'avancées
technologiques souvent non-fondées
-- les piles à combustibles en tête des débats --
capables de provoquer un changement de paradigme
en design et ingénierie des véhicules,
nous avons conclu que la "Quasiturbine" des Saint-Hilaire
a les qualités requises pour forcer la mise à la retraite du moteur à
pistons.
Ce dernier a servi l'humanité pendant près de 2 siècles
et a maintenant mérité son repos. eMOTION! REPORTS.com
a préparé un aperçu global dans un Livre Blanc
qui vous permettra peut-être d'en arriver à la même conclusion...
Livre Blanc en français à :
www.emotionreports.com/downloads/pdfs/FQuantum.pdf

See also the English / French press release at :
Voir aussi le COMMUNIQUÉ de presse anglais / français à :
http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/Presse/QTEmotionPR031217.pdf

Merci à www.emotionreports.com
et meilleures salutations, Gilles
www.quasiturbine.com
****************************

 

[Steve Zadarnowski]

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTEmotionReports0312.html
[...]

we have concluded that the Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
may very well provide impetus to retire the piston engine.

Over the dead bodies of several dozen Ford, GM and other
executives.

It has served humanity for nearly two centuries,

Really! I know they had the fax machine operational
around 1864, but I'm not sure the ICE was a feasible
enterprise in the early 1800's.

The overall magic of a turbocharged V6, V8, W12
and their horsepower are hardly going to be matched by
some fledgling rotary wannabe with a stack of
engineering problems to overcome.

There are several groups aiming at trying to usurp
the position of the traditional piston/crank engine.
I don't see it happening. They'll fiddle around the
edges of the market, if they manage to make something
that competes and they don't go broke, but that's all.

Economy of production, reliability and scalability of
concept is what it takes.

Perhaps the 'air car' can use one of the QT engines
instead of pistons. If I see one, it'll be a miracle,
if I see both, I'll know I've slipped into an
alternate universe...

S

 

[Bob Adkins]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:32:28 GMT, "Saint-Hilaire"

If your gadget were any good, GM and Ford would have long since broken your
door down, and stuffed your pockets with cash. You certainly would not have
to promote it on Usenet!

Bob

 

[News]

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTEmotionReports0312.html
[...]

we have concluded that the Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
may very well provide impetus to retire the piston engine.

Over the dead bodies of several dozen Ford, GM and other
executives.

I hope so!

Really! I know they had the fax machine operational
around 1864, but I'm not sure the ICE was a feasible
enterprise in the early 1800's.

It said "piston". the steam engine has a piston, and the first of these was
in the 1500s.

The overall magic of a turbocharged V6, V8, W12
and their horsepower are hardly going to be matched by
some fledgling rotary wannabe with a stack of
engineering problems to overcome.

The Mazda RX8 puts all those energy hugging over weighted lumps to shame at
1300cc too.

There are several groups aiming at trying to usurp
the position of the traditional piston/crank engine.

I hope they do.

I don't see it happening. They'll fiddle around the
edges of the market, if they manage to make something
that competes and they don't go broke, but that's all.

Economy of production, reliability and scalability of
concept is what it takes.

And that can happen with the Quasiturbine and the Stirling too.

Perhaps the 'air car' can use one of the QT engines
instead of pistons. If I see one, it'll be a miracle,
if I see both, I'll know I've slipped into an
alternate universe...

A compressed air engine using rotary technology is highly feasible. Tell us
why the dinosaurs of industry, the auto industry, have moved at a snails
pace over the past 100 years.

The IC piston engine is a very god heat engine. That is its main produce,
with power being a by-product. This appallingly inefficient polluting
anachronism has to go, and the sooner the better.

 

[News]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:32:28 GMT, "Saint-Hilaire"

If your gadget were any good, GM and Ford would have long since broken your
door down, and stuffed your pockets with cash.

To take it off the market, rather than use it for the clear benefits it has.

You certainly would not have
to promote it on Usenet!

You lay in a villa in the South of France for the rest of your days, looking
at the bank balance.

 

[Ben Simons]

At least, we don't have to pay 40$ to see the revolutionary concept like
other inventors try to trick people.

And it looks like it is running. For a proof, a movie with a running
chainsaw would be cool.

Ben

 

[News]

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTEmotionReports0312.html

In English :

Quantum Parallel: The Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
As The Basis For A Simultaneous Paradigm Shift
in Vehicle Propulsion Systems.
* Amidst myriad, and many times unsupportable,
claims of technological breakthroughs capable
-- fuel cells being at the top of this contention --
of inducing vehicular design and engineering paradigm shifts,
we have concluded that the Saint-Hilaire "Quasiturbine"
may very well provide impetus to retire the piston engine.
It has served humanity for nearly two centuries, and has earned its rest.
eMOTION! REPORTS.com is providing a comprehensive
white paper that will perhaps allow you to reach the same conclusion...
White Paper in English at :
www.emotionreports.com/downloads/pdfs/Quantum.pdf

The ignition system:
Photonic igintion (light ignition)

How does it work? How do you get light into a chamber? And how does it
ignite the fuel?

Or am I missing something?

 

[News]

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTEmotionReports0312.html

In English :

www.emotionreports.com/downloads/pdfs/Quantum.pdf

A minor mistake. It says Fleix Wankel had his first engine working in 1957,
but took another 20 years for it to be in a car. Then it talks about how
the fuel thirsty Mazdas didn't fair well in the 1973 fuel crisis - 16 years.
Some figures out there.

The first Wankel engine in a car was around 1963/64. The NUS Ro80 was 1967.
A car in style, design and many other aspects that was 20 years ahead -
forget its Wankel engine that was not developed properly and released far
too soon.

 

[daestrom]

To take it off the market, rather than use it for the clear benefits it has.

Oh, now don't go all 'conspiracy' on us and dredge up those myths about oil
companies buying the rights to 100 mpg carburators and such.

The *oil* companies might not want to see this on the road, but if it showed
any clear benefits over conventional ICE, the *car* companies would fight
over the right to be first in line.

daestrom

 

[News]

Oh, now don't go all 'conspiracy' on us and dredge up those myths about oil
companies buying the rights to 100 mpg carburators and such.

In 1970s the Arabs paid off an English guy because they thought he would
impact their oil sales. 10 million here and there was peanuts to them. It
was well reported at the time.

The *oil* companies might not want to see this on the road, but if it showed
any clear benefits over conventional ICE, the *car* companies would fight
over the right to be first in line.

Auto and oil are all in one breath.

The big corps re resistant to any change. It is within their nature to keep
the status quo, or have change at a pace they have 100% control of. For
e.g, IBM suppressed the release of the relational database as they perceived
it would impact heir hierarchical database sale. Microsoft have hardly
been a dynamo of inventiveness.

 

[Bob Adkins]

Oh, now don't go all 'conspiracy' on us and dredge up those myths about oil
companies buying the rights to 100 mpg carburators and such.

The *oil* companies might not want to see this on the road, but if it showed
any clear benefits over conventional ICE, the *car* companies would fight
over the right to be first in line.

I hope you aren't arguing with me, because I violently agree with you.

Bob

 

[News]

Sure it was,

It was. A number of newspapers were full of it at the time.

 

[News]

Fight? They did that with the licences for the Orbital 2-stroke engine 10
years ago, with most major auto companies around the world taking licenses
up. Not one manufactured it, even after Ford & GM kitted out a plant in the
US to make it.

Strange that this engine demonstrated clear benefits over conventional
4-stroke engines meeting California emissions too - and no one took it up. I
wonder why? This engine clearly goes against what you said.

 

[News]

Ben Simons <[email protected]> wrote in message

I saw one clip back when this abortion first appeared or near
thereafter. The performance as pathetic and that's being generous.

So it works then! A good objective engineer will look at a concept for the
benefits it gives. This invention has clear benefits over existing tired
technology. Since these people ran up a working prototype they have refined
the design and introduced further designs and applications. The notion of
having a combined Stirling/IC unit running the Stirling of the waste heat of
the IC side, although not a new idea as this was proposed in piston engines
too, is real neat. Small, simple, compact, light, highly efficient, etc. A
working prototype unit of all these designs would be brilliant.

Many authorities journals have commended the Quasiturbine and viewed it as a
viable alternative to current piston IC engines. Most people base their
scepticism on major conservative corporation not adopting new technologies -
mainly due to vested interest, and just plain ignorance.

 

[News]

I'll put my whole quote back in, you must have trimmed it by accident.
"Sure it was, that's why you'll be able to find a verifiable reference
to this. "
You will have no problem finding a verifiable reference, if what you
say is true, that "A number of newspapers were full of it at the
time."
Personally, I think you are full of it now.

Believe what you want to believe.

 

[News]

Now there's a conspiracy! Didn't the auto manufacturers all buy
licenses and set up factories to hide the black helicopters hauling
the inventor off to Area 51?
Do you have *any* verifiable references to back up your claims?

Yes.

 

[News]

Good. So you can list these benefits and provide evidence to
demonstrate they really exist and it's not all smoke and mirrors.

Look at the web site. They say more than I do and list all benefits. And
I'm not Canadian either.

 

[Bob Peterson]

in

Yes.

I recall how the wankel engine was gonna take over the world too. It had a
lot more promise than anything before or after, and it never amounted to a
whole lot either because even after spending a bazillion dollars on it, a
major automobile company could not make it work "better" than a conventional
IC engine.

There certainly are better IC engines than typical gas powered ones (diesels
being the obvious answer), but so far all this QT has shown is a lot of
amateurish PR work, and a prototype that may or may not have actually done
any work.

 

[Bob Peterson]

Look at the web site. They say more than I do and list all benefits. And
I'm not Canadian either.

I don't know what canadian has to do with anything. but I can just about
guarantee that if a developed product was available and actually had some
significant benefit, someone would bite on it. The problem is that no one
is going to bet the farm on such unproven technology when there is proven
technology available. Maybe when an actual QT powered device of some sort
is actually put on the market and a few hundred thousand of them are in
service for a few years and there is a demonstarted cost/benefit ratio, then
other people will fall into line. But until there is some real demonstarted
benefit, this is no different than the magnets idiots buy to put on their
fuel lines because some scam artist told them it improves their fuel
economy.

 

[News]

I recall how the wankel engine was
gonna take over the world too. It had a
lot more promise than anything before
or after,

The Quasiturbine is far superior in concept than the Wankel.

and it never amounted to a
whole lot either because even
after spending a bazillion dollars on it, a
major automobile company could not make
it work "better" than a conventional
IC engine.

Only, NSU and Mazda did any serious work on this engine. Norton motorcycles
improved it and used it in a bike about 13 years ago. Norton spent a
considerable amount of money on development. the company went broke and
virtually gave the rights of the engine away. A company was thinking of
using it in light aircraft, with one plane fitted with the unit and flying.
One Norton unit was about 8 inches diameter and about 3 inches thick that
produced 12 BHP. Couple two or three of these rotors together and it would
power a small car very well with large spaces left in the engine bay. The
Wankel engine is best suited to high rev applications, hence bikes and
sports cars. A Wankel powered Mazda car won the le Mans 24 endurance race
in 1991.

The Russians have at least two 2-rotor Wankles. One powers the Volga-2
Ekranoplan aircraft. The second is used in a helicopter, the the MI-34V.

The Wankel "is" better than conventional engines, look at the new Mazda RX8.
Vibration free, small (1300cc and competes with engines with 2.5 to 3 times
the cc), simple. Fuel consumption could be better, but not bad at all, when
you consider the piston engines have had over 100 years of development by
major corp'ns on every continent, while the Wankle has had peanuts in
development in comparison.

Then drive a car with a Wankle engine. Then you will be convinced.

There certainly are better IC engines than typical gas powered ones (diesels
being the obvious answer), but so far all this QT has shown is a lot of
amateurish PR work, and a prototype that may or may not have actually done
any work.

All major journals speak highly of it. I have read none that dismiss it.
They do have a working model that is for sure, with the concept being sound
and engineering of the unit well within modern engineering and manufacturing
capabilities.

If the auto industry is going to drop the piston engines, which it have too,
then I see no better design than the Qusiturbine around. Research was
underway in England on a 2-stoke stepped piston, which a V4 was made and
worked admirably. Research was underway into a square piston no crankshaft
unit (the pistons were arranged around a shaft in 360 degrees). None of
these come close to the Quasiturbine. It deserves a full blow prototype
version to power a small car.