Need Advice For Packaged Home Alarm Purchase

[Mike]

Security System Quotes


ADT corporate
349.00 Essentials Plus Package 1 Safewatch? Pro 3000 Touchpad
1 Motion Detector
1 Indoor Sounder
2 Door/Window Sensors
1 Manual Police/Fire Emergency Button
1 One-Time Telephone Connection Fee
1 Chime Feature
125 addition key pad
70.00 extra door sensor
25 telephone connection fee
99.00 x three smoke alarms
50.00 x three glass break alarms

appx $750.00 & about 42.00 a month fire and breakin monitoring
forgot to ask how much service call will cost. I own the equipment.

Brinks
premium pkg
1 master control w/ battery
1 premium keypad
2 motion sensor
1 siren
3 door sensers
1 key fob
1 smoke/heat detector
appx 480.00 installed $34.99 per month for break in, fire and service
policy.

I'm renovating my house - tearing walls, etc. The Brinks rep tells me
as long as I have the service policy Brinks will reinstall any equipment I
move due to reconstruction.

What do think of the quotes? The Brinks service plan w/ free equilment
reinstalls is tempting. (I told the rep the free reinstall needs to be in
the final contract) Rep told me if I move Brinks will install a basix syste
for free in my new place and charge me half price for all optional
equipment.

 

[Mike]

Thanks Robert, I just posted quotes from ADT & Brinks. (think I should've
posted the quotes down here near the end of the thread) Brink's rep couldn't
tell me make/model of their hardware. Will call me back

Mike
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[Mike]

Sorry, I don't shop at Walmart.

Mike

You may as well ask the cashier at Walmart which is the better TV to
purchase, they, like you, know little about the products they sell other
than the price.

Doug

 

[Doug L]

Don't be sorry

Doug L

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Sorry, I don't shop at Walmart.

Mike

 

[Doug L]

Take a look inside the box next time you ring up a sale Frank, instead of
just asking if they want fries with it.

Doug L

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[Mr.Double-sided tape]

Mike, ADT glassbreaks are $150.00 each. The free reinstall sounds good.
Get it in writing.

 

[Mike]

I don't remember if I sasked this or not if I install my own system how
do I find a monitoring company for fire and break in evewnts. The $40.00 a
month monitoring fee is a killer

Mike

 

[Robert L Bass]

No problem, Mike. The previous poster was attempting a dig at
me, not you. As you've probably already deduced, there are a few
folks here who take offense at anything I post. It has nothing
to do with content, only a long-standing grudge over their
failure to prevent me or anyone else from posting information
about DIY and from making comments about some industry ills.

Like everything else, use the meat and spit out the bones. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Robert L Bass]

I don't remember if I sasked this or not if I install my

own system how do I find a monitoring company for fire
and break in evewnts. The $40.00 a month monitoring
fee is a killer...

Understood. There are several providers who will monitor DIY
systems almost anywhere in the US. One that several of my
clients use is called Next Alarm. They have a website at
www.nextalarm.com. I've spoken with them and the fellow I talked
to seemed competent and interested.

Some local firms also monitor DIY. Most don't. You just have to
ask around. I don't think ADT will monitor a DIY system though
plenty of "authorized dealers" will gladly sell their monitoring
to you and then "flip the paper," as Bob C likes to put it.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Robert L Bass]

Security System Quotes


ADT corporate
349.00 Essentials Plus Package 1 Safewatch? Pro 3000 Touchpad
1 Motion Detector
1 Indoor Sounder
2 Door/Window Sensors
1 Manual Police/Fire Emergency Button
1 One-Time Telephone Connection Fee
1 Chime Feature
125 addition key pad
70.00 extra door sensor
25 telephone connection fee
99.00 x three smoke alarms
50.00 x three glass break alarms

appx $750.00 & about 42.00 a month fire and breakin monitoring

The purchase / installation fee is in line with what many other
firms are charging but $42 a month for monitoring a residential
system seems high. They can turn a profit charging half that
much.

forgot to ask how much service call will cost. I own the equipment.

Typically there will be a warranty period, after which service
calls can be expensive. Get the current prices in writing.

Brinks
premium pkg
1 master control w/ battery
1 premium keypad
2 motion sensor
1 siren
3 door sensers
1 key fob
1 smoke/heat detector
appx 480.00 installed $34.99 per month for break in, fire and service
policy.

Due to Brinks' reputation and the fact that no one else can
monitor or service it, I'd be very cautious about getting tied in
with them. Once they have you they can pretty much charge
whatever they want for monitoring and service. If you don't like
the price or the quality of the service, you have no other
options.

I'm renovating my house - tearing walls, etc. The Brinks rep tells me
as long as I have the service policy Brinks will reinstall any equipment I
move due to reconstruction.

What do think of the quotes? The Brinks service plan w/ free equilment
reinstalls is tempting.

On the surface it may seem so but ADT corporate has a much better
reputation. Try to negotiate the monitoring price. Maybe you
can get a lower rate. Either way, ADT corporate will likely be
the better choice.

(I told the rep the free reinstall needs to be in the final
contract)...

That "free" reinstallation sometimes has a way of costing more
than the initial installation. A "basic" system is 2 doors, 1
motion, 1 keypad and 1 siren. When most of us move it's usually
to a larger place with more doors, more windows, more motion
detectors, smoke detectors, etc. "Half price" doesn't mean half
of what you paid at the time of the initial installation. It
means half of what they say the going price is when you move.

I've dealt with a number of people who initially went with
Brinks. None were happy about the experience.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Jim]

As is what you notice.


Nope, it comes from observing crude, overbearing misfits like you.


I will participate in dialog if and when I please, and not when you think
it's relevant, pop. As I've said before, you don't run anything here but
your mouth.

And I suppose you think that what you say has any importance to anyone.
Your participation is composed of snotty remarks and nothing of any
important or relevance to alarms, that's for sure. Take a look back,
you fat piggy jerk and see how much you contribute here. Ziltch. All
you've got in you, is wise ass comments because you don't have anything
of value to contribute.

If you don't like what I do here, go someplace else. You don't control
what goes on here and have no say in what I or anyone does.

Go parctice your oral preoccupation.

 

[Frank Olson]

No problem, Mike. The previous poster was attempting a dig at
me, not you. As you've probably already deduced, there are a few
folks here who take offense at anything I post. It has nothing
to do with content, only a long-standing grudge over their
failure to prevent me or anyone else from posting information
about DIY and from making comments about some industry ills.

And if you'll notice all the responses I've made involve asking you to
verify some of your more outlandish statements concering your so called
experience in the trade, the "running of your modestly successful
central station alarmco", etc... In fact, I don't see *anything* in any
of the responses made to you or to Mike that have anything to do with
our trying to "prevent" you "or anyone else from posting information
about DIY and from making comments about some industry ills". There are
a number of individuals that post here that also happen to sell security
equipment online. I don't see a single one that quite gets the sort of
response you frequently garner. It doesn't take much to recognize that
you lie, misrepresent yourself, and are generally one of the most
obnoxious individuals I've ever come across.

Like everything else, use the meat and spit out the bones.

That generally includes anything you have to say about "industry ills".
Let those without sin cast the first stone, Robert.

http://www.clearwater.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=41001663

 

[alarman]

The usual.
<yawn>
js

 

[news01]

That "free" reinstallation sometimes has a way of costing more
than the initial installation. A "basic" system is 2 doors, 1
motion, 1 keypad and 1 siren. When most of us move it's usually
to a larger place with more doors, more windows, more motion
detectors, smoke detectors, etc. "Half price" doesn't mean half
of what you paid at the time of the initial installation. It
means half of what they say the going price is when you move.

I've dealt with a number of people who initially went with
Brinks. None were happy about the experience.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

Just got a quote over the phone from Slomin's Shield
wireless system

One free "basic system NAPCO" 2 door alarms, 1 standard (LED I guess)
keypad
2 motion sensors
155.00 1 smode detector
149.00 1 key fob
80.00 1 extra door alarm
86.00 three months rent up front
20.00 police alarm register
27.00 electrical permit
79.00 annual warranty
310.00 third year of three year contract otherwise I need to sign a
five year contract.

about $900.00 and I own the equipment - three year committment

Mike


total including installation

 

[alarman]

I'm going to call back a couple of the
small one that didn't call back. I assume
a lot of the have ansering service.

I would think twice about calling them back. If they are not responding to
you as a prospective customer, how will they do when you need service?
js

 

[Mike]

Slomins will place a lien on your home, and their warranty drives the
rate from $25 per month to $37 per month. They also install refurbished
equipment.

Slomon's rep told me if I prepay or order the warranty now it's $79.00 a
year
and it'll stay $79.00 a year as long I reorder it before it expires.

Mike

 

[Mike]

Brinks is off the list. I called two independents but they didn't call me
back.

Mike

I'd like to go with a small local co but at this point I'm getting leary of
giving out my address to strangers.
So far, I've given it to two corp companies and the smaller one have all
insisted on looking the house over
before they'll even talk prices. I'm going to call back a couple of the
small one that didn't call back. I assume
a lot of the have ansering service.

Mike

 

[Mike]

Robert, the psychology of news groups fascinates me.
I see it as a microcosm of society

Mike

 

[Crash Gordon]

What?? Am I the only one that still does windows?



|
| > That "free" reinstallation sometimes has a way of costing more
| > than the initial installation. A "basic" system is 2 doors, 1
| > motion, 1 keypad and 1 siren. When most of us move it's usually
| > to a larger place with more doors, more windows, more motion
| > detectors, smoke detectors, etc. "Half price" doesn't mean half
| > of what you paid at the time of the initial installation. It
| > means half of what they say the going price is when you move.
| >
| > I've dealt with a number of people who initially went with
| > Brinks. None were happy about the experience.
| >
| > --
| >
| > Regards,
| > Robert L Bass
| >
| > Bass Burglar Alarms
| > The Online DIY Store
| > http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
|
| Just got a quote over the phone from Slomin's Shield
| wireless system
|
| One free "basic system NAPCO" 2 door alarms, 1 standard (LED I guess)
| keypad
| 2 motion sensors
| 155.00 1 smode detector
| 149.00 1 key fob
| 80.00 1 extra door alarm
| 86.00 three months rent up front
| 20.00 police alarm register
| 27.00 electrical permit
| 79.00 annual warranty
| 310.00 third year of three year contract otherwise I need to sign a
| five year contract.
|
| about $900.00 and I own the equipment - three year committment
|
| Mike
|
|
| total including installation
|

 

[Mike]

I plan to

Mike

Mike, ADT glassbreaks are $150.00 each. The free reinstall sounds good.
Get it in writing.