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What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like?

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James Sweet

Too_Many_Tools said:
With the holiday season here it is time to redo the workshop and the
workbench in particular.

So, what suggestions do you have for setting up a good efficient
workspace for electronics?

Here's an example that I found....

http://www.stevenjohnson.com/workbench.htm

So what does your workspace, test bench and layout look like?

Pictures and links would be great.

What has worked for you?...what hasn't?

Benches, racks, cabinets, tables, carts....

Any particular test equipment that you would recommend for or against?

Thanks

TMT


That's an amazing shop. My own is unfortunately nothing like it, far
more cluttered with junk piled all over the place, I suspect it's
typical of other hobby techs here.
 
Michael said:
I moved over 1000 miles in 1987 and I had 24 50 drawer Akro-Mills
cabinets full of parts. I cut pieces of cardboard to cover the front and
placed two of them face to face, then taped them together. I didn't
have even one part out of place when I arrived at my new place and set
up my shop. The move was done with my shop's step van and I hauled over
17,000 pounds of tools, parts, manuals and test equipment in two trips.
there is nothing wrong with parts cabinets, if you know how to pack
them.

I suspect it all comes down to how you use them. Where I had mine,
there was no room to mount those cabs on the wall, so accidents were
inevitable... and could take forever to clear up. If yours are screwed
to the wall, no worry.

Space costs vary widely around the world, and here things are pretty
cramped. So much so I wouldnt really want to post a pic. Reading of
folk with 14' benches makes my brain boggle! Fanciest I ever had was
6', the worst was... well theres space on top of those boxes.

I imagine in Hong Kong it would be a case of, well, this one should fit
on the laps of your 4 roommates, who could sit their keyboard on top of
the screen so they can continue typing. Maybe one can rent desk space
there, wouldnt be surprised.


NT
 
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xray

Here's a couple pix of my shop. For test equipment- stick with the knowns-
HP/Agielnt, Tektronix etc.
http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/Dale-Parfitt/Dale_Parfitt_W4OP
http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/Dale-Parfitt/Dale_Parfitt_W4OP_3

W4OP

Wow. You guys are amazingly neat.

I always liked the cover of this book...
http://www.kelvin.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=651162
(Best picture of the cover that I could find quickly.)

Probably hard to make out the details in that web picture, but the bench
comes equipped with a crushed can of Mr. Pibb, and empty bag of Chips,
and a tipped cup of Coffee (and a bunch of electronic stuff.) That's
more like what my benches usually look like.
 
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Saandy , 4Z5KS

YOU CALL THIS A WORKBENCH!?!?!?
my Goodness, if the mess on mine is les than 5 inches deep I feel I
didn't do anything on that table! You know, I trained myself to
identify location of things by the sound they make when they fall on
something else when I throw it aside. If I were now to mop it up , I
wouldn't be able to find anything!
In any case I wish you good luck and I congratulate you for the
initiative.
Saandy 4Z5KS
 
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Saandy , 4Z5KS

couldn't agree more!!!
an uncluttered desk is not a guarantee of an uncluttered mind. Or
something like it.
Saandy 4Z5KS
 
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Irv Finkleman

Saandy said:
YOU CALL THIS A WORKBENCH!?!?!?
my Goodness, if the mess on mine is les than 5 inches deep I feel I
didn't do anything on that table! You know, I trained myself to
identify location of things by the sound they make when they fall on
something else when I throw it aside. If I were now to mop it up , I
wouldn't be able to find anything!
In any case I wish you good luck and I congratulate you for the
initiative.
Saandy 4Z5KS

Reminds me of one guy who complained that he could never find the chuck
key for his drill, so begin buying them by the dozen -- that way, he said,
they normally last for a week or two! :)

Irv VE6BP
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Adrian Tuddenham

Too_Many_Tools said:
With the holiday season here it is time to redo the workshop and the
workbench in particular.

So, what suggestions do you have for setting up a good efficient
workspace for electronics?

Here's an example that I found....

http://www.stevenjohnson.com/workbench.htm

So what does your workspace, test bench and layout look like?


http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Shed2-04379.JPG

There is a large valve Solartron CO 546 audio sig gen just out of sight
on the RH end of the far bench.
 
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Adrian Tuddenham

Tim Wescott said:
My workbench looks like an absolute fright unless I've been very
unproductive (and therefore have had time to clean), or I've reached a
standstill (and therefore must clean).

Otherwise I just look at the pile and ask myself how long ago I used a
particular tool, then I look that far down to find it.

That is a valid filing system known as "Chronological Stratification" -
I have been using it for years; it usually works extremely well, but it
is vulnerable to data-loss if any attempt is made to 'tidy' it.
 
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Mike Andrews

In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Dale Parfitt said:
Here's a couple pix of my shop. For test equipment- stick with the knowns-
HP/Agielnt, Tektronix etc.
http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/Dale-Parfitt/Dale_Parfitt_W4OP
http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/Dale-Parfitt/Dale_Parfitt_W4OP_3

In W4OP_2, what's the rightmost gadget? The one in the gray case,
with the meter(?), some gray knobs, and 2 toggle switches on the
front, and a black box on top of it? There's a printer behind it.

Looks like you've got good taste in CAD tablets, too.
 
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John Hudak

While I haven't built my bench yet, I've been planning it a Looooong
time. I've assembled this list from having lived in my dads shop for 15
years and worked at various research labs for 20....

1. Desktop - I prefer a deep top, on the order of 40" or more. Reason
being that when test equipment becomes attached to larger devices (i.e.,
TVs), space becomes a premium, and laying a schematic on a hot chassis
is not a good idea ;).
2. I like the top shelf idea but would use it for test gear that
doesn't need to be watched or interacted with a lot while in use. Scope
and logic analyzer on the bottom, Frequency generators, PS, etc on the
top. A verticle shelf of test gear along the side works good for me.

3. Lots of outlets/wire mold. Wiremold along the back with 1" x1"
panduit wireway to keep the power cords routed.

4. Power cut off switches for parts of the bench.
5. power conditioning for all of the bench (CV transformer/harmonic
neutralizer), Also GFI protected.
6. Work lights - magnifier, fluorescent and incandescent. Why
incandescent? Floursecent are such great RF radiators and influence some
of the gear I design/work on.
7. VTVM and DMM (I am old fashioned - Depending on what I am measuring,
I like a meter that can withstand "hitting the wrong testpoint"
8. Test lead, jumper clips hanger - Use 1"x1" panduit with one side cut
off for hanging test leads.
9. storage shelves. For components, I like 6-9" deep, for test gear,
etc., I like 24" deep.
10. IC storage. I tend to keep lots of ICs around. I like to keep
them in the plastic carrier strips, cut a hole in one end and hang them.
11. PC and inventory control. I know this sounds a bit overboard
but...print out barcode and attach to every spare part before stored.
Scan when used. Keeps an inventory in a DB of parts. You have no idea
how many times it was my job in my dads store to look for a part that he
'knew' he had. Also, since I collect old computer 'stuff', It is nice to
have an inventory list.
12. A separate section or separate bench for 'fabrication' that would
contain drills, hammers, vise, etc.
13. One idea that I saw for a woodwork bench that I like is a number of
verticle, slide out, pegboard pieces (about 2-3' high and 2' deep that
sit under the bench. The are verticle, perhaps tilted back slightly, and
can slide out. Organize tools, whatever. Keeps them from being piled
in drawers and saves time hunting them.

14. Get service data in electronic format. Get a scanner and PC. I
grew up with and still have tons of service manuals and data books.
Using PDF versions of all this stuff saves time and space. If I could
only get my 15 yo data books on DVDs I'd be soooo happy...
15. Antistaic mat on benchtop and also floor pad (or paint, depending on
situation)
16. I have often found the need for a hefty heat gun (in lieu of a
reflow furnace, and also to remove components in mass...lol)

17. A 'L' shaped bench works better for me than a long one. Also, ppl
sometimes put pegboard on the back of benches to hang stuff..I don't
like that because I don't like reaching across my work. Personal
preference.

18. If you do serious work, I recommend mainstream test gear (HP, Tek,
Fluke, etc.). You can trust what you measure. I know cost is an issue,
which is why I'd get good used gear. For example, I'd get a good used
Tek 465B, 475 or 485 over the newer DSOs. Most of the time, I don't
need color, I don't need it connected to my network, etc. (But I do have
one just in case...)

I've build this bench many times in my head and even started it in my
basement, but never time to finish.
Good luck
John
 
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Rich Grise

That is a valid filing system known as "Chronological Stratification" -
I have been using it for years; it usually works extremely well, but it
is vulnerable to data-loss if any attempt is made to 'tidy' it.

Sorry to be OT, but I had a similar situation in my car - I decided
to clean out all the trash, and I discovered buried chocolate. ;-)

Cheers!
RIch
 
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Rich Grise

Reminds me of one guy who complained that he could never find the chuck
key for his drill, so begin buying them by the dozen -- that way, he said,
they normally last for a week or two! :)

You're supposed to ty-wrap it to the cord, out at the plug end, so that
you can't use it while the drill is plugged in. (Keeps your hands in
one piece.) :)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Dale Parfitt

Mike Andrews said:
In W4OP_2, what's the rightmost gadget? The one in the gray case,
with the meter(?), some gray knobs, and 2 toggle switches on the
front, and a black box on top of it? There's a printer behind it.

Looks like you've got good taste in CAD tablets, too.
Hi Mike,
That's a General Radio 1236 meter I use for measuring sun and moon noise on
my 1296MHz moonbounce station. It is a 30MHz IF amp with decibel meter. In
the extended mode, I can easily resolve 0.05dB changes. Sun noise
measurements are an excellent standard by which we judge system efficiency.
On 10GHz I can see about a dB of moon noise- which is also handy to keep the
dish trained on the moon.
That pix is pretty dated at this point- the 746 has been replaced by a
756PRO II and the SSB transverter has been replaced by a DEMI 1296-->28 MHz
transverter.
Dale W4OP
 
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David G. Nagel

Michael said:
A workbench is meant to be a living example of the moving hole
theory. ;-)

A clean work bench like a clear desk is a sign of a sick mind. ;^)

Dave WD9BDZ
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Rich said:
You're supposed to ty-wrap it to the cord, out at the plug end, so that
you can't use it while the drill is plugged in. (Keeps your hands in
one piece.) :)


That doesn't work on my drill press. Its chained to the wiring cover
on the motor and only has a couple inches of slack to keep it out of the
way.
 
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Rich Grise

That doesn't work on my drill press. Its chained to the wiring cover
on the motor and only has a couple inches of slack to keep it out of the
way.

Hmm, then maybe you need a little bungee for it. :)

Hey! I just had an invention! The chuck key plugs into a dead-man switch
socket! It's right there on the drill press, and you pull it out, it kills
the power, you use it, and you have to poke the chuck key back into its
socket or the drill press won't turn on! ;-)

Nah, they'd defeat it with a nail or something.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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John Popelish

Rich said:
Hmm, then maybe you need a little bungee for it. :)

Hey! I just had an invention! The chuck key plugs into a dead-man switch
socket! It's right there on the drill press, and you pull it out, it kills
the power, you use it, and you have to poke the chuck key back into its
socket or the drill press won't turn on! ;-)

Nah, they'd defeat it with a nail or something.

If you combine that with a self sealed relay as the run contact
(momentary N.O. pushbutton to start, momentary N.C. pushbutton or
pulled key to stop) I think it would be just great. I just wouldn't
want the motor to start at the moment I plugged the key in the hole.
I might just add that to my press.
 
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Ron in Radio Heaven

John said:
Rich Grise wrote:

Not new, I installed one of those on the drill press where I used to
work, more than 20 years ago. Guys kept leaving the key stuck in the
chuck and then turning to motor on... Not good.

Ron
 
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Irv Finkleman

Rich said:
You're supposed to ty-wrap it to the cord, out at the plug end, so that
you can't use it while the drill is plugged in. (Keeps your hands in
one piece.) :)

Cheers!
Rich

Mine is tied to the cord at the plug end. My reply was only to reflect
a little humor on the subject!

Irv VE6BP
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