Ultimate technology for turbines

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Ultimate technology for turbines.
Novel design for blades, wich is six times the performance of the
conventional turbine.

 

[vaughn]

wich is six times the performance of the conventional turbine.

Proof please. My bullshit detector just went off! 6X the performance of a
normal turbine would give over 100% efficency.

Vaughn

 

[amdx]

Proof please. My bullshit detector just went off! 6X the performance of
a normal turbine would give over 100% efficency.

Vaughn

Same here, conventitional turbines are around 40% efficient,
so 6 x 40% equals perpetual motion. Hot dog stop the oil pumps!
Betz's law says the max efficiency is 59%, I know caused I
googled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betz'_law
http://www.talentfactory.dk/en/stat/betzpro.htm
Mike

 

[ASMotor]

In comparative tests in the wind tunnel,
the new turbine produces 8X more power at the generator,
that the conventional blade (NACA 4412).

This turbine will be on the market soon, equipping small wind turbines.
First, a 1,8kw wind turbine.

Thanks

 

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In comparative tests in the wind tunnel,
the new turbine produces 8X more power at the generator,
that the conventional blade (NACA 4412).

This turbine will be on the market soon, equipping small wind turbines.
First, a 1,8kw wind turbine.

Let's see, a normal 1800W turbine would be about 95 sq.ft. swept area.
So at 8X efficiency, yours would be ~12sq.ft, or ~4' diameter. Is that
about right? I think I've seen some of those on Ebay. Not to mention
that other spammers claim that by using their $49.99 secrets, anyone
can build a turbine for about $100 in hardware store materials. A day
late and a dollar short there, pard.

Wayne

 

[News]

In comparative tests in the wind tunnel,
the new turbine produces 8X more power at the generator,
that the conventional blade (NACA 4412).

This turbine will be on the market soon, equipping small wind turbines.
First, a 1,8kw wind turbine.

Thanks

Any independent tests? If not then the market will tell us if it does
work.

 

[ASMotor]

We are starting now. Build a small turbine is easy, and can confirm
performance. This is not a scam model.

 

[daestrom]

Proof please. My bullshit detector just went off! 6X the performance of a
normal turbine would give over 100% efficency.

Vaughn

Mine as well. We see that it spins faster in one test (tip speed
readings), and we see some other test but nothing that tells us the true
*power* output.

Frankly, we've all seen 'tests' that show high speed with no load, or
short circuit current (with no appreciable voltage). The naive think
this 'proves' more power output but "tain't necessarily so..."

daestrom

 

[Bob F]

We are starting now. Build a small turbine is easy, and can confirm
performance. This is not a scam model.

I see a little change in angle of the fins closer to the center, but no
indication of blade angle change to accomodate the blade speed change from the
hub to the tip. If this is the case, the blade is going to waste significant
energy.

 

[vaughn]

I see a little change in angle of the fins closer to the center, but no
indication of blade angle change to accomodate the blade speed change from the
hub to the tip. If this is the case, the blade is going to waste significant
energy.

Yes, but since the blade will have six times the performance of a conventional
turbine, we will be able to afford the loss....

Vaughn

 

[Bob F]

Yes, but since the blade will have six times the performance of a
conventional turbine, we will be able to afford the loss....

There is that.....

 

[News]

Any independent tests? If not then the market will tell us if it does
work.

Ya mean like the market told us over 10 years ago that the air car was
a scam?
<<<<

This is not a car.

 

[ASMotor]

The maximum efficiency is achieved by placing the blade perpendicular to the
flow. Near center, you see a circular fins in concentric circles, for
aerodynamic reasons. These fins create channels that collect and divert the
flow.

Tilt the blade body may be advisable to adjust the speed (decrease the power
converted).

This blade model has generated much more power (8X) than a traditional blade
of the same diameter (NACA 4412, 15 º angle) in the wind tunnel. This is
demonstrable.

The blade profile can be narrower than a traditional blade. Instead, the
chord of the blade is wide, for maximum power.

The diameter of the turbine could be significantly less, to generate the
same power as a conventional turbine. All this is being tested now.

Again, for people who have doubts, it is easy to construct a model of the
blade and try it on a generator. The results may surprise you.

I hope to place the construction details soon.

Thanks

 

[Bob F]

Long narrow blades are more efficient than short fat ones. Do some
research on Aspect Ratio.

There you go - another person insisting on recognizing reality.

Those blades are never going to move very fast anyway.