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F Murtz
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fran
Whatever is an "amalgam capsule" and how are they sealed?
Truthfully, I'm not sure. I asked about safety of amalgam fillings
some years ago at a dental visit and this is what he told me -- hence
the "IIRC".
Fran
F
F Murtz
amalgam for teeth used to be a mixture of mercury silver copper tin andfran said:Truthfully, I'm not sure. I asked about safety of amalgam fillings
some years ago at a dental visit and this is what he told me -- hence
the "IIRC".
Fran
zinc and "capsules are sealed to sequester" is just a load of gobbldegook.
R
Rod Speed
Fran wrote
Who cares ?
Who cares ?
Who cares ?
Who cares ?
Corse it is. Try breaking one and see.
You're confusing CFLs that do have a plastic dome over the glass tube with normal CFLs that just have the glass tube.
Doesnt make it gospel, stupid.
Break one, and then get a VERY large towel for your face.
Nope, that was a quite recent thing due to HIV/AIDS.
Those fools have never ever had a fucking clue.
Have fun explaining all those dentists...
Those fools have never ever had a fucking clue.
Have fun explaining all those dentists...
Irrelevant to that bit of yours.
Absolutely certainly so, in spite of what the EPA fools claim.
You never ever get a damned thing right, ever.
Wrong, as always.
Pity we happened to be discussing what some fools claim should be done when they are broken.
Because it works better than plastic.
Break one and then find the largest towel you can find for your face.
Just because some fool claims it doesnt make it gospel.
You're lying, as always.
Completely useless, as always.
Irrelevant when even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that not too many power stations actually discharge into people's houses.
Only for fools like you who never have had a fucking clue.
You're lying, again.
They dont say anything like that, liar.
And that's a good thing or not?
Who cares ?
How is it relevant here?
Who cares ?
Were the Celibate Rifles any good?
Who cares ?
If they'd been "Slutty Rifles" would that have been better?
Who cares ?
That's not clear.
Corse it is. Try breaking one and see.
You're confusing CFLs that do have a plastic dome over the glass tube with normal CFLs that just have the glass tube.
Look at a diagram, Rod.
Doesnt make it gospel, stupid.
Check it out in "How Stuff Works", for example.
Break one, and then get a VERY large towel for your face.
Didn't they use gloves?
Nope, that was a quite recent thing due to HIV/AIDS.
Not according to the EPA ...
Those fools have never ever had a fucking clue.
Have fun explaining all those dentists...
Again this is the advice of the EPA ...
Those fools have never ever had a fucking clue.
Have fun explaining all those dentists...
That was my point
Irrelevant to that bit of yours.
Apparently so ...
Absolutely certainly so, in spite of what the EPA fools claim.
No, correct as usual.
You never ever get a damned thing right, ever.
But relevant to the extent of practical risk.
Wrong, as always.
If they hardly ever get broken, then the hazard, whatever it is, is trivial.
Pity we happened to be discussing what some fools claim should be done when they are broken.
Why would they use real glass?
Because it works better than plastic.
It feels like plastic.
Break one and then find the largest towel you can find for your face.
The claim is documented in the answer to Sylvia below.
Just because some fool claims it doesnt make it gospel.
Been there, done that.
You're lying, as always.
Again, see the response to F Murtz above.
Completely useless, as always.
In part:
The irony of CFLs is that they actually reduce overall mercury
emissions in the long run. Despite recent improvements in the
industry's technology, the burning of coal to produce electricity
emits roughly 0.023 milligrams of mercury per kilowatt-hour. Over a
year, then, using a 26-watt CFL in the average American home (where
half of the electricity comes from coal) will result in the emission
of 0.66 milligrams of mercury. For 100-watt incandescent bulbs, which
produce the identical amount of light, the figure is 2.52 milligrams.
Irrelevant when even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that not too many power stations actually discharge into people's houses.
Oh it would be excellent
Only for fools like you who never have had a fucking clue.
The record says otherwise
You're lying, again.
Consult the history books, Rod
They dont say anything like that, liar.
R
Rod Speed
Amalgam capsules are sealed to sequester from contact with saliva, IIRC
Wrong, as always.
A discussion of the issue in dentistry is here:
Irrelevant to what has been done for centurys without any problem.
Title :
Update: mercury poisoning associated with beauty cream--Arizona,
California, New Mexico, and Texas, 1996.
Irrelevant to dentistry.
Source :
MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep, 45(29):633-5 1996 Jul 26
Abstract :
During September 1995-May 1996, the Texas Department of Health (TDH),
the New Mexico Department of Health (NMDH), and the San Diego County
(California) Health Department investigated three cases of mercury
poisoning associated with the use of a mercury-containing beauty cream
produced in Mexico. The ongoing investigation has found this product
in shops and flea markets in the United States located near the U.S.-
Mexico border, and a U.S. distributor has been identified in Los
Angeles. The cream, marketed as "Crema de Belleza--Manning" for skin
cleansing and prevention of acne, listed "calomel" (mercurous chloride
[Hg2Cl2]) as an ingredient and contained 6% to 10% mercury by weight.
This report presents findings of a continuing investigation by these
health departments, the Arizona Dept of Health Services (ADHS),
California State Department of Health Services (CSDHS), the Food and
Drug Administration (FDA), and CDC. Definition of mercury poisoning
Mercury poisoning occurs when a person has ingested, inhaled, or had
skin or eye contact with the toxic (poisonous) heavy metal mercury and
suffers damage to his/her nervous system and other systems of the body.
Irrelevant to dentistry for centurys.
Toxicity: Readily absorbed via respiratory tract (elemental mercury
vapor, mercury compound dusts), intact skin, and G.I. tract. Spilled
and heated elemental mercury is particularly hazardous.
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/hydro/hg.htm
Irrelevant to dentistry for centurys.
Not many if any. Dental surgeries tend to be large and fairly well ventilated
Plenty of them werent in the past.
and the amounts involved are minute.
Pig ignorant lie.
R
Rod Speed
fran said:Truthfully, I'm not sure. I asked about safety of amalgam fillings some
years ago at a dental visit and this is what he told me -- hence the "IIRC".
Just the line of bullshit they run to fools like you who are too stupid to check it for yourself.
R
Rod Speed
Don said:Exemption:
depends how post you are, and what the thong is.
Bare faced lie.
J
John Whorfin
Fran said:Were the Celibate Rifles any good?
No.
E
Eeyore
Phil said:"Fran"
The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
** Complete bollocks.
The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -
just like a normal fluoro lamp.
Indeed. I had one fracture in my hand as I was trying to refit it into a loose
lampholder. Luckily I didn't get cut.
Graham
M
Mr.T
Well they can't be all that bothered because if they were they'd make
it their business to prevent it, or manipulate some not quite so brain
dead uneducated moronic person into office and give them riding
instructions.
Yes it's a pity you think those with a modicum of intelligence should have
to spend their lives fighting "brain dead" politicians too.
Would you actually prefer a world where all scientists for example went into
politics instead? I'd hate to live in that world!
Unfortunately they are not so capable at propaganda and are adverse to the
corruption necessary to succeed in politics in any case.
Barry Jones probably did as well in politics as anybody with high
intelligence has ever done in this country, and he had little real
influence, even as president of the ALP. The game is stacked against them by
those morons already in power, and will remain so.
MrT.
E
Eeyore
But the Earth is COOLING and Sea Level is FALLING !
Not exactly AGW to me !
Graham
Not exactly AGW to me !
Graham
F
Fran
Yes it's a pity you think those with a modicum of intelligence should have
to spend their lives fighting "brain dead" politicians too.
Well unless they are relaxed about being controlled by brain-dead
uneducated morons, what choice do they have? Of course if people who
are not brain dead uneducated morons are relaxed about being
controlled by them, perhaps we can infer that control by such people
isn't such a bad thing and is something all people, whether "brain
dead uneducated morons" or not should accept.
Would you actually prefer a world where all scientists for example went into
politics instead? I'd hate to live in that world!
Well yes, but then I don't believe that most people or even most
politicians are "brain dead uneducated morons". If I did believe it
I'd see scientists getting involved in politics as a lesser evil
imposed by unfortunate circumstance.
Unfortunately they are not so capable at propaganda and are adverse
[averse]
to the corruption necessary to succeed in politics in any case.
Well it's not unfortunate in your opinion since in your opinion you'd
"hate to live in that world".
Barry Jones probably did as well in politics as anybody with high
intelligence has ever done in this country, and he had little real
influence, even as president of the ALP. The game is stacked against themby
those morons already in power, and will remain so.
If morons can stack the game to keep non-morons out, then they aren't
morons. Nasty? Yes. Venal? Maybe. Moronic? Nope. QED
Fran
M
Mr.T
Well unless they are relaxed about being controlled by brain-dead
uneducated morons, what choice do they have?
Put up with it, or risk going to jail starting a revolution perhaps?
Of course if people who
are not brain dead uneducated morons are relaxed about being
controlled by them,
So if one doesn't wish to become a politcician or start a revolution, it
automatically means you are "relaxed" about having your life controlled by a
stupid politician.
In fact I think it's the morons who only see things in terms of black &
white!
Well yes, but then I don't believe that most people or even most
politicians are "brain dead uneducated morons".
Not a term I coined, but not too far from the truth either.
Maybe "corrupt, greedy, illogical egomaniacs" would be MY definition.
If I did believe it
I'd see scientists getting involved in politics as a lesser evil
imposed by unfortunate circumstance.
No more computers and internet then, or almost any technology we currently
take for granted.
If morons can stack the game to keep non-morons out, then they aren't
morons. Nasty? Yes. Venal? Maybe. Moronic? Nope. QED
As I said, it wasn't my definition. But shit-house rats don't have to be all
that smart either, just cunning.
Maybe that's *your* idea of smart though.
MrT.
F
Fran
Put up with it, or risk going to jail starting a revolution perhaps?
You don't see any other options? Really?
So if one doesn't wish to become a politician or start a revolution, it
automatically means you are "relaxed" about having your life controlled by a
stupid politician.
Fallacy: False dichotomy
The two aren't the only options.
In fact I think it's the morons who only see things in terms of black &
white!
This is where I point out that you conjured a false dichotomy and
invite you to show why you aren't hoist by your own petard.
Not a term I coined, but not too far from the truth either.
Really? Let's assume Mr Allison's description came from the viscera
rather than his head and it was no more than an extravagant piece of
rhetoric. What he really meant to say was that politicians and the
mass of the public were naive and undereducated. That's also not true.
Maybe "corrupt, greedy, illogical egomaniacs" would be MY definition.
And that's not like it either. You've substituted an entirely new
description.
No more computers and internet then, or almost any technology we currently
take for granted.
The price you pay for social failure.
As I said, it wasn't my definition. But shit-house rats don't have to be all
that smart either, just cunning.
Being cunning requires empathy -- the capacity to understand the
perspectives of others and the flaws that drive their preferences, the
resources that arfe ready to hand and what one can realistically
achieve with them.
Maybe that's *your* idea of smart though.
It's most people's idea of smart, which is a long way from honest.
The problem is that the terms "moron", "brain dead" and "uneducated"
are adduced as moral judgements because perceived lack of intelligence
and erudition is often seen as some sort of moral failure or statement
of diminished humanity. This is of course, utterly specious.
Fran
R
Rod Speed
Mr.T wrote
Or just ensure that no politician gets any say what so ever on anything you do.
No politician controls mine.
Corse you dont do anything like that yourself, eh ?
Nothing like the truth, actually.
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
Mindlessly silly. That stuff happens regardless.
And hardly any of it is done by scientists anyway.
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
Put up with it, or risk going to jail starting a revolution perhaps?
Or just ensure that no politician gets any say what so ever on anything you do.
So if one doesn't wish to become a politcician or start a revolution, it automatically
means you are "relaxed" about having your life controlled by a stupid politician.
No politician controls mine.
In fact I think it's the morons who only see things in terms of black & white!
Corse you dont do anything like that yourself, eh ?
Not a term I coined, but not too far from the truth either.
Nothing like the truth, actually.
Maybe "corrupt, greedy, illogical egomaniacs" would be MY definition.
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
No more computers and internet then, or almost
any technology we currently take for granted.
Mindlessly silly. That stuff happens regardless.
And hardly any of it is done by scientists anyway.
As I said, it wasn't my definition. But shit-house rats
don't have to be all that smart either, just cunning.
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
Maybe that's *your* idea of smart though.
Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?
E
Eeyore
Fran said:The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
Utter RUBBISH. I though you had more sense.
This only applies to EXPENSIVE CFLs that have a covering 'bulb' over the tube.
This also reduces their efficiency.
Note that the efficiency of CFLs is commonly misrepresented as FIVE times that of
incandescents. It is no such thing. The comparison is being made with Softone
(tm) bulbs instead of good old GLS types that most of us use. Compared to GLS,
CFL is only at best 4 x as efficient. Add the polymer outer and probably only 3 x
as good.
Defects are slow 'warm-up' time especially in cold conditions and short life
under short duration on/off conditions like the light in the loo or dunny if you
prefer.
Yes. I use them but intelligently. No-one should be FORCED to use them and the
general public don't understand they can't be dimmed either. This has already led
to several house fires. Luckily no-one has been killed by a CFL yet AFAIK but it
will only take time.
An Orwellian step too far IMHO.
Graham
B
Benway (original non-Zionist)
********************************Eeyore said:Utter RUBBISH. I though you had more sense.
This only applies to EXPENSIVE CFLs that have a covering 'bulb' over the tube.
This also reduces their efficiency.
Note that the efficiency of CFLs is commonly misrepresented as FIVE times that of
incandescents. It is no such thing. The comparison is being made with Softone
(tm) bulbs instead of good old GLS types that most of us use. Compared to GLS,
CFL is only at best 4 x as efficient. Add the polymer outer and probably only 3 x
as good.
Defects are slow 'warm-up' time especially in cold conditions and short life
under short duration on/off conditions like the light in the loo or dunny if you
prefer.
Yes. I use them but intelligently. No-one should be FORCED to use them and the
general public don't understand they can't be dimmed either. This has already led
to several house fires. Luckily no-one has been killed by a CFL yet AFAIK but it
will only take time.
An Orwellian step too far IMHO.
Graham
All of that is correct. I use CFLs to
reduce my power bill, but I have no
illusions that they solve anything much.
After they crap-out, I save the PCBs for
the high-voltage transistors and a few
other cheap components. Just hobby value only.
I laugh at yuppies who save a few kilograms of CO2
with CFLs, and then take a jet that produces tonnes
of CO2 to carry them across the world.
Nobody should be forced off incandescents.
**************************************
C
Clifford Heath
Someone mentioned Megaman CFL globes, and I wrote to them
asking about dealerships near me. The reply included a PDF
brochure of their current range, and some text describing
tha various features. Some of the text is relevant to the
discussion here, so I thought I'd paste it. I'm not claiming
that any of this is true, but it does contradict some things
that have been claimed here. Anyhow, I won't comment further
here, here's the blurb.
Clifford Heath.
IT'S GREEN
Lead-free Glass Tubes are used to reinforce the eco-friendliness of our creations.
The Silicone Protection contains broken glass and mercury in place before proper
disposal and recycling.
Water-based adhesive is used to replace glue prevent release of toxic substances
during lamp operation.
Recyclable plastic is used on our lamps to conserve scarce resources and reduce
burden on landï¬lls.
MEGAMAN® employs AMALGAM in the creation of our lamps, an eco-friendlier
and safer alternative to liquid mercury.
Prevents the release of toxic mercury during the manufacturing process.
Even if the lamp cracks, mercury is not released in indoor areas making
MEGAMAN® CFLs safer to use. Reduces environment pollution.
Allows creation of more compact lamps with excellent lumen maintenance.
IT'S ADVANCED
INGENIUM® Technology
Prolongs lamp life up to 15,000 hours, extends switching cycles to 600,000 times
and delivers precise preheating time within 1 second.
DorS DIMMING Technology
MEGAMAN® lamps and electronic ballasts are now dimmable via the use of
common light switches to create various lighting atmospheres.
MEGAMAN® lamps incorporate exceptional SAFETY features making them the
world’s safest energy-saving lamp.
DIMMERABLE Technology
You can now relaxingly choose between full lighting or dimmer atmospheric
lighting with the newest DIMMEABLE CFLs from MEGAMAN®. These lamps work
perfectly on most electronic and digital dimmer systems.
All-round Illumination
MEGAMAN® cares about the aesthetic look of decorative luminaires. That’s why
the Classic and Candle models have been vigilantly sculpted with the Translucent
Housing to deliver all-rounded illumination.
IT'S SAFE
Plastic Lamp Base
Almost all MEGAMAN® lamps are built with the Plastic Lamp Base that is rust-free
and eliminates faulty contact. It allows secure atiachment to the lamp body when
removing the lamp from the lamp holder as it reaches end of life.
Silicone Protection
Most MEGAMAN® lamps come with the Silicone Protection that protects you from
shatiered glass and other components when the bulb smashes
asking about dealerships near me. The reply included a PDF
brochure of their current range, and some text describing
tha various features. Some of the text is relevant to the
discussion here, so I thought I'd paste it. I'm not claiming
that any of this is true, but it does contradict some things
that have been claimed here. Anyhow, I won't comment further
here, here's the blurb.
Clifford Heath.
IT'S GREEN
Lead-free Glass Tubes are used to reinforce the eco-friendliness of our creations.
The Silicone Protection contains broken glass and mercury in place before proper
disposal and recycling.
Water-based adhesive is used to replace glue prevent release of toxic substances
during lamp operation.
Recyclable plastic is used on our lamps to conserve scarce resources and reduce
burden on landï¬lls.
MEGAMAN® employs AMALGAM in the creation of our lamps, an eco-friendlier
and safer alternative to liquid mercury.
Prevents the release of toxic mercury during the manufacturing process.
Even if the lamp cracks, mercury is not released in indoor areas making
MEGAMAN® CFLs safer to use. Reduces environment pollution.
Allows creation of more compact lamps with excellent lumen maintenance.
IT'S ADVANCED
INGENIUM® Technology
Prolongs lamp life up to 15,000 hours, extends switching cycles to 600,000 times
and delivers precise preheating time within 1 second.
DorS DIMMING Technology
MEGAMAN® lamps and electronic ballasts are now dimmable via the use of
common light switches to create various lighting atmospheres.
MEGAMAN® lamps incorporate exceptional SAFETY features making them the
world’s safest energy-saving lamp.
DIMMERABLE Technology
You can now relaxingly choose between full lighting or dimmer atmospheric
lighting with the newest DIMMEABLE CFLs from MEGAMAN®. These lamps work
perfectly on most electronic and digital dimmer systems.
All-round Illumination
MEGAMAN® cares about the aesthetic look of decorative luminaires. That’s why
the Classic and Candle models have been vigilantly sculpted with the Translucent
Housing to deliver all-rounded illumination.
IT'S SAFE
Plastic Lamp Base
Almost all MEGAMAN® lamps are built with the Plastic Lamp Base that is rust-free
and eliminates faulty contact. It allows secure atiachment to the lamp body when
removing the lamp from the lamp holder as it reaches end of life.
Silicone Protection
Most MEGAMAN® lamps come with the Silicone Protection that protects you from
shatiered glass and other components when the bulb smashes
F
Fran
Someone mentioned Megaman CFL globes, and I wrote to them
asking about dealerships near me. The reply included a PDF
brochure of their current range, and some text describing
tha various features. Some of the text is relevant to the
discussion here, so I thought I'd paste it. I'm not claiming
that any of this is true, but it does contradict some things
that have been claimed here. Anyhow, I won't comment further
here, here's the blurb.
Clifford Heath.
IT'S GREEN
Lead-free Glass Tubes are used to reinforce the eco-friendliness of our creations.
The Silicone Protection contains broken glass and mercury in place beforeproper
disposal and recycling.
Water-based adhesive is used to replace glue prevent release of toxic substances
during lamp operation. Â
Recyclable plastic is used on our lamps to conserve scarce resources and reduce
burden on landï¬lls.
MEGAMAN® employs AMALGAM in the creation of our lamps, an eco-friendlier
and safer alternative to liquid mercury.
Prevents the release of toxic mercury during the manufacturing process. Â
Even if the lamp cracks, mercury is not released in indoor areas making
MEGAMAN® CFLs safer to use. Reduces environment pollution. Â
Allows creation of more compact lamps with excellent lumen maintenance.
IT'S ADVANCED
INGENIUM® Technology
Prolongs lamp life up to 15,000 hours, extends switching cycles to 600,000 times
and delivers precise preheating time within 1 second.
DorS DIMMING Technology
MEGAMAN® lamps and electronic ballasts are now dimmable via the use of
common light switches to create various lighting atmospheres. Â Â
MEGAMAN® lamps incorporate exceptional SAFETY features making them the
world’s safest energy-saving lamp.
DIMMERABLE Technology
You can now relaxingly choose between full lighting or dimmer atmospheric
lighting with the newest DIMMEABLE CFLs from MEGAMAN®. These lamps work
perfectly on most electronic and digital dimmer systems.
All-round Illumination
MEGAMAN® cares about the aesthetic look of decorative luminaires. That’s why
the Classic and Candle models have been vigilantly sculpted with the Translucent
Housing to deliver all-rounded illumination.
IT'S SAFE
Plastic Lamp Base
Almost all MEGAMAN® lamps are built with the Plastic Lamp Base that is rust-free
and eliminates faulty contact. It allows secure atiachment to the lamp body when
removing the lamp from the lamp holder as it reaches end of life.
Silicone Protection
Most MEGAMAN® lamps come with the Silicone Protection that protects you from
shatiered glass and other components when the bulb smashes
Thanks for that ...
Fran
F
Fran
But the Earth is COOLING and Sea Level is FALLING !
Not according to those who are in a position to know.
Not exactly AGW to me !
You will find that most who self-identify as "skeptics" (and pretty
much all with scientific credentials) acknowledge that the Earth is
warming and sea levels rising -- they just say it's no big deal.
One non-scientist who is neveretheless often touted by the skeptics is
Bjorn Lomborg, who says in part:
||||
This doesn’t mean that global warming is not true. As we emit more
CO2, over time the temperature will moderately increase, causing the
sea to warm and expand somewhat. Thus, the sea-level rise is expected
to pick up again. This is what the United Nations climate panel is
telling us; the best models indicate a sea-level rise over this
century of 18 to 59 centimeters (7-24 inches), with the typical
estimate at 30 centimeters (one foot). This is not terrifying or even
particularly scary – 30 centimeters is how much the sea rose over the
last 150 years.
|||
Fran
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