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Phil Allison

"John Tserkezis"
You have to read between the lines,


** Absolute bollocks.

You have obviously done no actual testing at all.

"Thought experiments " do not count - IMBECILE.



........ Phil
 
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Phil Allison

"Rod Speed"
Phil Allison wrote


You're lying, as always.


** You did not read the damn article.

The preamble is not the article !!

FUCKWIT !!


You're lying, as always.


** You did not read the damn article.

The preamble is not the article !!

FUCKWIT !!



Pity about the dimmable CFLs,


** Completely irrelevant to what the advice is about.

You did not read the damn article.

The preamble is not the article !!

FUCKWIT !!

Pity it completely ignored the dimmable CFLs,


** You did not read the damn article.

The preamble is not the article !!

FUCKWIT !!




........ Phil
 
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kreed

"Rod Speed"



** You did not read the damn article.

    The preamble is not the article  !!

     FUCKWIT   !!



** You did not read the damn article.

    The preamble is not the article  !!

     FUCKWIT   !!



**  Completely irrelevant to what the advice is about.

 You did not read the damn article.

 The preamble is not the article  !!

  FUCKWIT   !!



**  You did not read the damn article.

   The preamble is not the article  !!

   FUCKWIT   !!

.......  Phil

If you know the guy that did that article, this might be of interest
for further research by those with knowledge of the systems:

A related matter involves C-Bus and similar "electronic home control"
systems.
Most of these systems IIRC support dimming, "soft on/off" etc which
would surely be
handled by a Triac based system. While these aren't common in homes
yet, they have been appearing in up-market and "smart" building
designs

EA (?) some years back also published kit construction details for
modules for switching/dimming bulbs even, and the dimmer ones used a
triac.


Some months ago I was talking to a manager of a local hotel/resort
complex, and the subject of lighting control systems came up, asking
if I could help with a problem they have.
They have an "electronic control system" system thats about 4 years
old ( I think C bus but not sure) that controls hundreds of bulbs in a
bar and restaurant area.

The comment made was "recently - regularly the units connected to the
bulbs are 'burning out', and have to be replaced at about $100 a
pop". The electrician says they are "probably under-rated as they are
failing repeatedly".

I havent seen the system or been to the premises and am not making
adverse comments on C-bus in particular.

After posting the link to "how many CFL's does it take to...." earlier
today the penny dropped.

Maybe they have been changing to CFLs in some fittings and maybe the
control system isnt designed for it ? I will have to find out if
they have recently changed bulbs, system might work great on
incandescent loads - but not be designed or intended to be used with
CFL, even dimmable ones. The repeated current spikes on dimmable CFL,
on triac dimmers - even if only one dimmer per bulb - used in large
numbers in commercial premises might make for some very nasty
intermittent problems with nuisance tripping of breakers, need for
thicker cabling, "dirty" power throughout the building etc.

With the current economic conditions, and if incandescent are banned
or become "politically incorrect to be seen by the public to be used,
commercial premises with these systems may start bulk installations of
CFL for "cost cutting".
 
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Rod Speed

Some psychotic toaster molester claiming to be
Phil Allison desperately attempted to bullshit and lie it way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Unfortunately the NSW cops now use tasers so its unlikely he'll be summarily executed now.
 
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Phil Allison

"Rod Speed"
kreed wrote




Not interested, there are plenty of dimmable CFLs available.


** The thread is about "dimmable" CFLs - you illiterate FUCKHEAD !!

The Q was asking how many dimmable CFLs does it take to overload and blow a
standard wall plate dimmer.


FUCKWIT !!




....... Phil
 
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Alan Rutlidge

Mr.T said:
You mean you don't have him kill-filed?

MrT.

Nah, he's an interesting case study into predictable behaviour patterns.
Some would go so far as to comment on Roddles as a "has been". The sad
truth in Roddles case is you had to have been something to be a "has been".
Poor old Roddles was nothing to begin with, therefore the tag "has been"
can't be applied in his case. :p
Besides, kill-filing him doesn't completely eliminate having to read his
rubbish when someone else responds to his drivel. :-(
 
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Rod Speed

Some psychotic toaster molester claiming to be
Phil Allison desperately attempted to bullshit and lie it way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Unfortunately the NSW cops now use tasers so its unlikely he'll be summarily executed now.
 
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Rod Speed

Some terminal fuckwit that got the bums rush from the
biggest sheltered workshop in the entire fucking country,
Alan Rutlidge desperately attempted to bullshit and lie
its way out of its predicament and fooled absolutely
no one at all, as always.
 
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Eeyore

Fran said:
Not greatly

Oh, so that's OK is it ?

4-6 is the usual lumens per watt input calculus.

As a result of a daft UK newspaper article claiming that incandescents were being
banned, I went to my local trade electrical store and and bought an allegedly illegal
150W GLS bulb (OSRAM) made in the EU (Slovakia).

The light output is rated at 2140 lumens. That's 14 lumens per watt.

Just more of the usual GREEN LIES.

You LIARS are finished.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Sylvia said:
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

It's "Elf 'n Safety" innit ?

Graham
 
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kreed

Oh, so that's OK is it ?



As a result of a daft UK newspaper article claiming that incandescents were being
banned, I went to my local trade electrical store and and bought an allegedly illegal
150W GLS bulb (OSRAM) made in the EU (Slovakia).

The light output is rated at 2140 lumens. That's 14 lumens per watt.

Just more of the usual GREEN LIES.

You LIARS are finished.

Graham

Hear hear !!
 
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kreed

Oh, so that's OK is it ?

Dont give "her" ideas.

(I only say "her" because in russian "her" (XEP in russian letters)
means cock)

Next these rabid green nuts will want to ban all light shades and
covers and bring in laws that all lights have to only have a naked
bulb, as they waste the light energy.

They will probably have gestapo like inspectors smashing down doors of
every home to make sure the bulbs are spotlessly clean too, as this
would reduce light efficiency, and then dictating what size CFL is
mandatory for a given room. Oh and dont forget to paint all walls
white to ensure minimum light absorption and loss.

As a result of a daft UK newspaper article claiming that incandescents were being
banned, I went to my local trade electrical store and and bought an allegedly illegal
150W GLS bulb (OSRAM) made in the EU (Slovakia).

The light output is rated at 2140 lumens. That's 14 lumens per watt.
The only problem is, these morons (and most of the modern unedcuated
public) are too thick, and uneducated to understand real everyday
scientific fact.

I wish they would bugger off to some remote place - well away from us,
like the Amish in US (Afghanistan would be better), on a one way trip
with no modern facilities, electric power etc, make their "perfect
world" keep to themselves, and leave the rest of us alone. Stop
dictating to everyone else how we should live.
 
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Mr.T

Alan Rutlidge said:
Some would go so far as to comment on Roddles as a "has been". The sad
truth in Roddles case is you had to have been something to be a "has been".
Poor old Roddles was nothing to begin with, therefore the tag "has been"
can't be applied in his case. :p

Commonly called a "never was" here.
Besides, kill-filing him doesn't completely eliminate having to read his
rubbish when someone else responds to his drivel. :-(

Does cut out a hell of a lot since so many people have him kill-filed
already.

MrT.
 
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Rod Speed

Some terminal fuckwit that got the bums rush from the
biggest sheltered workshop in the entire fucking country,
Alan Rutlidge desperately attempted to bullshit and lie
its way out of its predicament and fooled absolutely
no one at all, as always.
 
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SG1

Brocollinni Incognito said:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:18:19 -0800, Fran wrote:



Err. They *do* shatter.

My Woolies 23W job draws 210ma therefore it is a 50.4W globe. Is there a bit
of skullduggery going on here?????????
 
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