Re: UK RICS report says solar takes 208 years to repay...nonsense! Help needed!

[The Natural Philosopher]

It's the same all over the world. Evolution? HAH! DE-volution!!!!!!

Wasn't that was Moses said when he read the declaration of independence?

 

[Owain]

It's the same all over the world. Evolution? HAH! DE-volution!!!!!!

Oh, don't. If you could see what devolution has given us in the form of
the Scottish Building Standards Agency, you'd weep.

Owain

 

[no spam]

Part of it is probably because we've got one national standard for this
sort of thing, and it's been designed by people who know what they're
doing.

The problem here is everything has to be written in lawyerise. You can't
just say that a sewage line must drop 1" for every 4' but no more than 3"
per 4'. It has to say that the vertical change is required to be not more
than one (1) inch for every fourty eight (48) inches of horizonal distance.
.. .

Read the fine print that comes with a computer program and you get the idea.

Yes. And? The proportion of the care budget which goes on supporting such
people is miniscule compared to the vast sums spent on more commonplace
medicine (cancer, hearts, even plain old old age).

My point was you via your taxes are paying for the actions of stupid people
which means the government, to reduce cost makes laws restricting what
actions people can take thereby limiting everyone's rights.

When that "someone else" is "everybody", you hit your internal
contradiction - that you don't like government, as a representative of the
people, telling you what to do, yet you feel that you personally require
that power over others. If this were an episode of Star Trek, at this
point you'd overheat and explode.

Huh? In all but a very few cases the government should not have the ability
to force an individual to do anything.

 

[no spam]

In my family, all of whom were engineers, someone has done all of the
above. It's not just gap-toothed hicks from the sticks; common sense can
be completely lacking in someone with an IQ of 170....

Proves my point, common sense isn't.

 

[nospam]

I know of no US city that has cameras covering areas as large as the ones

They may be well hidden.

After all, there are reds under the bed........

Not any more. They have moved into the eco nut groups.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Not any more. They have moved into the eco nut groups.

No, they have moved to the White house. Most of the Neocons are ex
communist party.

 

[Andy Hall]

Not any more. They have moved into the eco nut groups.

Ah... I knew that they had to have gone somewhere.

 

[nospam]

I know of no US city that has cameras covering areas as large as the

No, they have moved to the White house. Most of the Neocons are ex
communist party.

I think you need a vacation from smoking rope. I can't think of anything
that has come out of the White house that looks like communism.

 

[nospam]

I know of no US city that has cameras covering areas as large as the

Ah... I knew that they had to have gone somewhere.

The professional complainers and 'power to the people' crowd always look for
large groups of people who either want something for nothing or who are just
so stupid they will believe anything. The eco nuts seem to fit the bill on
both count.

 

[Steve Cothran]

I think you need a vacation from smoking rope. I can't think of anything
that has come out of the White house that looks like communism.

See if you still can make that statement if a Democrat, especially
Clinton, is elected.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

I live in the real world. I deal with convicted felons everyday I'm at
work. Want to be a victim? Be unprepared to deal with a predator.

Is it SO boring u have to turn into into fantasy violence then?

 

[Balanced View]

Another eight septics down and more injured in a shopping mall in
Nebraska

I bet they were prepared to deal with a predator - they just didn't
see it coming

The eight toilets were out of order in the Mall?

 

[Eeyore]

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than he
did on his own......

MORON

 

[Arnold Walker]

No shit sherlock


What a septic with a rifle ?

You'd shoot 50 innocent bystanders before you hit the right man

You ever notice that the shootings have increased ever since the rednecks
with guns. Started getting discouraged from using them.We have so much
happen now, that in times past would have had the deer rifles and shotguns
circling round.The townsmen would have been helping the cops with the
bankrobber or school shooter.
And there would have been posse voluteers to go get the thug on the
spot.....
And most hunters shoot better than the cops or the crooks.
Look at how many shots are fired at drive by or by the cops in a shootout.
The hunters would have nailed that sucker two or three times over by the
time cops or the crooks hit thier target.
Being PC you will probably see a need for more training for both the cops
and crooks so that doesn't happen.
Come to think of it 50 bystanders with one 45ACP magazine....you do know
that Imgrain submachine guns are illegel don't you.The cops and gangbangers
might need one to drop a deer,but most of us hunters can drop one on the
first or second shot.

PC stupidity has overrode common sense on the right to defense life and
property.

 

[Eeyore]

Guns make things safer, if they are in the hands of those
with the courage and moral fortitude to use them when it
becomes necessary.

And how are you going to make sure they're there and not in the hands of
criminals ?

Graham

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

The point is that the "gun free zone" designation doesn't deter those
who don't respect the rule of law. The only people who are deterred are
those who might have made a difference in the outcome.

Ah. I see,

So basically your reasoning goes like this.

Criminals don't respect laws.

Therefore having the laws is a a waste of time.

We should all carry guns and shoot the criminals in the head whenever
we judge that what we feel is a crime going to be/has been committed.

Should we also swear an oath of fealty to the man with the heavy machine
gun, and give him a tithe of our earnings?

Sorry to dissapoint you, but we have been there, done that, and found it
wanting..about a thousand years ago.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

You can't reason with an ass like geoff.
That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff

He managed - by your standards -= pretty well with that.

.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than he
did on his own......

And half a dozen other people in the line of fire too.


Don't worry, his problem was simply he wanted to be famous and a big
macho **** with balls the size of peanuts, just like you.

Essentially, you made him do it.

 

[Andy Hall]

Sorry to dissapoint you, but we have been there, done that, and found
it wanting..about a thousand years ago.

That is one of the great truisms when comparing the old world with the new.

In the new world, the history is so short that they still believe that
things move continuously forward and that things therefore get better.
After all, Iraq can now benefit from democracy whether it is wanted or
not and every town there from a McDonalds, three shops selling Nikes
and another five selling mobile phones. It's called the colonialism
phase and generally comes before disappointment and retrenchment.

In the old world, we have generally seen it all before.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

That is one of the great truisms when comparing the old world with the new.

In the new world, the history is so short that they still believe that
things move continuously forward and that things therefore get better.
After all, Iraq can now benefit from democracy whether it is wanted or
not and every town there from a McDonalds, three shops selling Nikes and
another five selling mobile phones. It's called the colonialism phase
and generally comes before disappointment and retrenchment.

In the old world, we have generally seen it all before.

...again and again until we stopped doing it.

The whole nature of Britain's secular legal system, is a direct result
of the terrible catholic v protestant civil wars.

After that people decided that really they would rather than which
church you went to wasn't a matter of legality and instant hanging.

America will grow up eventually. It will take a few hundred years. The
important thing is to stop them destroying the planet before they do.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

More a problem of septics having guns, full stop

Especially an AK47.

What conceivable legal use is there for such a thing?

It's a military weapon and has no place outside of a firing range,
military establishment or museum.

In this country, the person who lent it to him would have been up on a
serious criminal charge, both for possessing it and for complete
disregard of overseeing its use, if indeed he was able to license it
himself.

It simply would never have got into circulation at all.

And if it did every single person involved in its supply would have been
on serious criminal charges.

WE have the good sense to see that those supplying unsuitable weapons
are the real criminals.