Putting a 100gb 5400rpm or 60gb 7200rpm drive in a Dell Inspiron 1150?

[Rod Speed]

Which drives exceed the well-known 500ma limit?

No such 'well-known 500ma limit'

And its irrelevant with low end Dells anyway. What
matters is whether the drive uses more power than
the original drive which itself is marginal cooling wise.

It is clear that the power used does vary considerably.
http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200511/notebook_7.html

I suspect everything from the last few years is near 2.5W,

See above.

with more variation at idle based on rpm and platters.

Its more complicated than that in practice.

 

[Neil Maxwell]

Unless you can show that the power requirements (current draw) of one
drive exceeds that of another, any conclusion that the drive is dying
because IT generates more heat is bogus. However, some laptops subject
the drive itself to [much] more heat (from the laptop, not the drive)
than other laptops. And some drives may be more sensitive to heat than
other drives, rotational speed not withstanding.

I have no interest in proving any points. I've made a pretty simple
correlation between the upgrading of the drive and the loss of 2
different brand drives in 15 months (one brand new, and one that had
worked in a T30 laptop for several years - I'm just waiting for the
next one to go now) and an overall higher sensitivity of the laptop to
heat.

Definitely not proof of causation, and it's only a few data points,
but they're data points that I have a great deal of faith in, for
obvious reasons, and I'm providing this data to the online community.
What you and others do with it is up to you.

While I could continue to gather data for years to come, I'm looking
at lower RPM/lower power drives instead. Tilting at windmills can be
pretty entertaining, and I've done my share of it, but purposely
gathering failure data on a working (and obsolete) laptop is not my
idea of a good ROI.

YMMV, as always. Feel free to post links to opposing data, as I'm
always open to changing my mind with quality data.

 

[Barry Watzman]

There are only two issues here:

-Does the higher speed (rpm) drive produce more heat

and

-Is the higher speed drive more sensitive to heat

If the power consumption is the same (or less), then it does not produce
more heat.

The question of whether or not it is more sensitive to heat is model
specific, and I won't try to answer it. But the answer may be that it
does not produce more heat, it doesn't get any hotter, but that how hot
it does get is too hot for that drive model, but is perfectly acceptable
for other drive models (rotational speed not withstanding).

Unless you can show that the power requirements (current draw) of one
drive exceeds that of another, any conclusion that the drive is dying
because IT generates more heat is bogus. However, some laptops subject
the drive itself to [much] more heat (from the laptop, not the drive)
than other laptops. And some drives may be more sensitive to heat than
other drives, rotational speed not withstanding.

I have no interest in proving any points. I've made a pretty simple
correlation between the upgrading of the drive and the loss of 2
different brand drives in 15 months (one brand new, and one that had
worked in a T30 laptop for several years - I'm just waiting for the
next one to go now) and an overall higher sensitivity of the laptop to
heat.

Definitely not proof of causation, and it's only a few data points,
but they're data points that I have a great deal of faith in, for
obvious reasons, and I'm providing this data to the online community.
What you and others do with it is up to you.

While I could continue to gather data for years to come, I'm looking
at lower RPM/lower power drives instead. Tilting at windmills can be
pretty entertaining, and I've done my share of it, but purposely
gathering failure data on a working (and obsolete) laptop is not my
idea of a good ROI.

YMMV, as always. Feel free to post links to opposing data, as I'm
always open to changing my mind with quality data.

 

[sdlomi2]

Take out the old drive... are th connectors the same? If so it should
work.

This link will show you what will fit: >>
http://www.drivesolutions.com/cgi-b...titems&kind=dll&pos=0&type=itemid&itemid=dll8
<<. HTH, sdlomi2

 

[sdlomi2]

Hi, i just got off the phone for the third time with Dell tech support.
They can be really accommodating when something dies within the
warranty but when it comes to tech knowledge they are lacking. I was
told 3 diff things by 3 diff representatives. I wanted to either put in
a 60gb 7200rpm OR 100gb 5400 drive to replace my intolerably slow/small
60gb 4500 drive. None of the answers the reps gave me told me i could
put either of these into the notebook i have, but because they were so
inconsistent i wanted to double check (or find out how i can double
check).

Does anyone know if either of those drives can fit in this model
notebook, or can anyone tell me how i can find out (without consulting
Dell).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

-Gaiko

PS Another reason for not using Dell would be that i can find both of
those drives for a ton cheaper (almost half the price) than i can find
them on the Dell site.

This link should tell you what will fit: >>
http://www.drivesolutions.com/cgi-b...titems&kind=dll&pos=0&type=itemid&itemid=dll8
<< HTH, sdlomi2

 

[[email protected]]

It's not that they are lacking knowledge, it's because Dell support is
all the way out in INDIA! The U.S. Dell employees are too busy
installing Spyware on some helpless sap's new DELL before shipping it
out to him .

My suggestion to you is make sure your next PC is a Hewlett Packard or
a Compaq.

Funny, my last notebook was a compaq and it lasted just over a year
(started dying right after the warrenty expired). I am not a Dell die
hard but i liked the warrenty and they have been good about service
(minus knowing about hard drives) and were cheaper than compaq. oh
well, each to thier own. As for the spyware, yeah your right, but i
formated my drive and reinstalled my OS, problem solved.

 

[[email protected]]

yep, sorry about that. yes, what i have is presently 4200. and i wish i
had a 10k scsi before. but what i have is *much* slower than a 7200rpm
with more cache, i am sure of it.

 

[[email protected]]

Thanks, that just confirms what i thought.

 

[[email protected]]

ok, bottom line i guess is that i first need something faster; a
(close) second would be something larger, and yes, i am considering a
external for storage but am not crazy about lugging around an external
drive and more wires etc (but i will if i have to). thanks!