Plimer and Silicon Chip

[Davo]

Someone has twigged my memory. I think it was a PIC controller project
for opening a chook shed door on sunrise and closing it at sunset.
Probably other stuff since as I stopped buying it soon after.

The problem with microprocessor stuff is that there are too many flavours
of the small stuff and build your own gets very complicated, messy and
expensive very fast. At some point, it shifts into "programming" rather
than electronics. Then it becomes a question of how deep your pockets are
unless you are a skilled machinist to make actuators, etc.

In industry PLC or computer control is pretty much the norm these days.

 

[Davo]

**Depends on their aims. Three or four well placed nukes and we're pretty
much screwed. A full on invasion, occupation and subjugation would be very
difficult for any military force. But, to answer your question: Yes, China
could pretty much beat us now. 10 years ago would have been a very different
situation. It's all academic. When they're wealthy enough (10 years),
they'll just buy the infrastructure they want. Successive Australian
governments are too stupid to notice that dictatorships cannot be dealt with
like regular companies (witness: Optus). The present government is no
different. They'll allow precious, irreplacable infrastructure to be sold
off to anyone.

So was that a yes or a no?

 

[Davo]

Too many variables.
Define "beat".

Ah, don't worry about it.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

You think they deserved better planes?

** The Russians built and flew their own planes against the German
vasion - tens of thousand of them.

Your claims are utter crap.

As always, you have to prove your ignorance and that you are full of
bullshit. They wouldn't run on the low octane fuel available in Europe
at that time.

** Even more utter BULLSHIT.



..... Phil

 

[keithr]

So was it used by the Germans or the Americans?

Do you understand the word dissident?

 

[terryc]

I hope all Australians aren't that paranoid & misinformed.

Lol, what is misinformed? You have already posted that the sun shone out
of the USAians arse during WWII. Nuff said.

 

[terryc]

Gee, is your education that poor, or are you just stupid?

Err, what part of the fact do you have trouble with or are you looking in
the mirror?

 

[terryc]

Women flew them, too. Big deal.

So you are confirming that USAian males think their women are lesser
people.

 

[terryc]

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations.

Yep, we all know about "cost"

Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted to the war effort,

Entire?

and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war.

Your logical inconsistency is showing.
Hint, before Pearl Harbour as well?

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

 

[Roger Dewhurst]

**Bollocks. Until recently, China lacked the firepower, though it does have
the personel. Indonesia doesn't have it. Like it or lump it, Australia has
the most firepower in the immediate region (China excepted). For now.

I was working in Indonesia at the time they invaded Timor. There was a
widespread belief there that Indonesia should rightfully control Malaya
and the whole extended archipelago including Melanesia. The military
was totally corrupt but I believe that they might well have thought that
they were capable of taking on Australia. It was touch and go whether
they would go east of the border in PNG. The Australian Labour
Government of the time may well have not had the balls to do anything,
and the Indonesians might have understood that. On the other hand there
were many ex Australian Army who would not have stood for the natives
who helped then so much in the fight against the Japanese on the Kokoda
Trail being sacrificed. I do not think that the Indonesians understood
that. At the end of the day they did not cross the border, but it was
touch and go.

Fortunately the power lay with the Indonesian army and not the air force
or navy. They would have had trouble getting their troops ashore and
they would have had even greater trouble with the lack of water. Their
soldiers are muslims and would want to wash their dicks after every
piss. There is not enough water for that!

R

 

[Roger Dewhurst]

At home, probably not.
The big question is how well can city bred people take to guerilla
warfare?

Your politicians have effectively disarmed the populace!!!!!!!! Silly
buggers.

R

 

[keithr]

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

Not so, the British for instance paid back every penny, Not sure about
Australia, but I don't think that the US supplied that much here.

 

[keithr]

Yep, we all know about "cost"


Your logical inconsistency is showing.
Hint, before Pearl Harbour as well?


See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

Of course, pearl Harbour would not have happened had the US not forced
Japan to open itself to the world by sending Admiral Perry to force them
to do so.

 

[Jasen Betts]

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

I can't say that that would have impressed any of those who were
actually doing the fighting

The you don't seem to get is the other allies made greater sacrifices.

 

[terryc]

See? You have to attack everything. That was not what I said.

But it is. Someone suggested the the planes SOLD, not given, to the USSR
were substandard planes in the view of white pilots, but black pilots
were still required to fly them. To which you joined they were also
"flown" by women. Now you are attempting weasel out by saying you ddn't
mean flown (as in fighting), but "flown" as in transfer flights.

The point was that they were flown by more than the Russians.

You still have to provide that evidence.

I guess that you have no concept of not giving your most
advanced weapons to other armies, so they can't be used against you?

Please, I've seen the crap you share with the Australian army.

 

[terryc]

Thank you. That was my point,

Trying to shuffle now and claim something different. The fact was that
the USA was in a great position to sell weapons to combatants during WWII
because it brought in a lot of money to the owners of USA businesses. Do
not blame us if your government of the day decided to rob their own
population to boost the income of these business owners.

 

[terryc]

I don't want anyone to kiss my ass. You, most of all.

Then why do you continually post false material that claims the rest of
the world owes the USA?

 

[terryc]

In a great position?

Lol, so little understanding of the events you claim to know so much
about.

If we were 'in a great
position' why did we have to shut down all civilian manufacturing to
convert the plants to military production?

Hey,USAians have always been very highly motivated by greed and there are
loads of examples on ripping off their fellow country men.

So you are saying from 1939, the USA population was deprived because all
USA manufacturing turned to making armaments to sell the WWII combatants?

 

[terryc]

When did I say that? I did say that some Allies didn't repay their
war debt according to their agreement.

List them?

Its not my fault that you can't tell the truth.

Oh, you want me to point to "the truth" as written by the USA armed
forces? Hell, even your own WWII veteran piss all over "the official
history".

 

[terryc]

Have you ever talked to any US W.W.II Veterans?

Yes, that is why I could make the comment.