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MooseFET said:Rumors aside MOSFETs are not really easier to operate in parallel.
You still need emitter / source resistors.
Not needed for lateral mosfets ! It's a whole different ball game.
Graham
MooseFET said:Rumors aside MOSFETs are not really easier to operate in parallel.
You still need emitter / source resistors.
Arny said:The low voltage rating takes this device out of consideration for serious
audio amps for home or professional use. It may or may not be up to snuff
for automotive use.
Try coming up with a relevant example - something that can take at least 100
volts.
MooseFET said:"Jorden Verwer"wrote:
Radiation hardness
Safe operating area
Bandwidth
Phil said:"MooseFET"
Rumors aside MOSFETs are not really easier to operate in parallel.
You still need emitter / source resistors.
** Which MOSFETS ????
Amazing how so many MOOSE like idiots have no idea there are TWO kinds
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The kind known as " lateral " share current just fine when in parallel in
LINEAR applications with no source ballast resistors.
Septic Tank Imbecile.
Arny said:Yes, but we're talking about modern devices, not legacy devices.
Arny said:I'm not saying that 100 KHz devices are optimal for audio
I'm saying that in 2008, higher bandwidth than commonly available devices
for audio power
amps is irrelevant.
In most cases, this is fallacy, and the result is just the opposite.
Reason: FETs have lower transconductance compared to BJTs. It is
impossible to build a half bridge stage with an ideal transfer curve.
However there are few special cases when a FET output stage has an
advantage:
1) With FETs, it is simpler to control bias current, because of the
negative dependency from the temperature. That simplifies the life.
Arny said:"Eeyore" wrote
As usual, you're misrepresenting me.
Nonlinearity corresponding to 0.1% THD can be audible given choice of
musical program material.
So, that number is way too high. Measurements
made at just one power level, like full power, are obviously bogus.
Obviously, the amp has to be able to perform within spec while driving a
real-world tough (but not badly designed) speaker load.
That all said, the world is full of good power amps. There are some bad
ones, too.
Arny said:"Eeyore" wrote
Well, yes, now that they are so easy to obtain.
I was trying to make things easy for him.
In fact we built a lot of pretty good power amps with 60-90 volt parts, back
in the day.
John said:Eeyore said:These are NOT used in audio amps.
Learn something about LATERAL mosfets that were designed for audio. I've already
given part number and links to data sheets.
That doesn't really matter. The transfer function only needs to be
continuous so that you can close a loop around it, and the fet needs
to be able to stand the peak power dissipation. That can easily be
done with vertical "switching" type fets. A modern FLOOD architecture
[1] works great with most any kind of fet. Lots of things have changed
in the last few decades.
John
[1] Of course you've never heard the term before. I just invented it.
Don said:High gain bandwidth products are important for a good reason. If you can
keep device phase shifts well up in frequency, the dominant pole (I know
you didn't implement one specifically, but I'm sure it was still there)
can also move up in frequency.
That means that global feedback will
carry on working instead of disappearing towards the top of the audio
band, at which point it has usually changed to local feedback in the
voltage amp, leaving output stage non-linearities uncorrected.
MooseFET said:Beware: Mosfets like the STW55NM60 have a decreasing threshold
voltage for increasing temperature. This means that biasing them to a
low idle current isn't so easy.
Fred is thinking of push-pull transformer coupled arrangements. He needs to
advance about 4-5 decades.
If you're such an expert, built one and see for yourself. And use LATERAL mosfets
designed for audio.
TWIT.
Fred said:Eeyore a écrit :
Uhhh?
What I wrote is just basic maths.
Try a pencil and paper...
Don't you at least agree there are many similarities between 1/f
noise and offset?
1) With FETs, it is simpler to control bias current, because of the
negative dependency from the temperature. That simplifies the life.
RichD said:Do you have any experience designing audio amps?
Which did you use?
Chronic said:Only if the bandwidth and the phase margins are small relative to the
target audio bandwidth, which is unlikely.
Eeyore said:It's quite clear that there are just TWO people in this thread who really
understand the use of lateral audio mosfets.