If there's a wifi or wireless connection nearby is it moral to tap inand use it?

[John]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.


If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range
of your laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it
is it OK?

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

 

[atec]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.


If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range
of your laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it
is it OK?

No

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

You have scruples .

 

[cantseeme]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.


If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range
of your laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it
is it OK?

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

forget morals, it's illegal

 

[Deadly Ernest]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.


If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range
of your laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it
is it OK?

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

In most places it is unlawful and seen as theft
unless it is an open connection system where general
access approval has been given - like some of those
community access sites.

 

[DalienX]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.


If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range
of your laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it
is it OK?

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

Well i wouldn't do it.
On the other hand if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi
connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen.

 

[Deadly Ernest]

Well i wouldn't do it.
On the other hand if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi
connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen.

more likely, like most home users, they
have no idea how to apply basic, let alone
decent, security to the wireless network.
Yeah you can buy good and easy to use
software, but few home users know that or
have enough knowledge to do more than
stick the CD in and let it run itself;
thus they even have problems getting the
software properly installed and set up.

 

[Rod Speed]

Just wondering what people's position is on this.

Its theft, pure and simple.

If you have a wireless or wifi internet connection in range of your
laptop or desktop machine and you tap in to use it is it OK?
Nope.

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

Its just as wrong to try it, just like it is to enter
someone's house that happens to be left unlocked.

 

[rowan194]

Not sure about the legalities but IMHO I don't believe it's ethical,
unless it's an obvious invitation (eg, my AP is actually named
"CONNECT2ME" because I plan to offer limited net services for free)

Of course with many routers never changed from the default settings it
might even be possible that a neighbour is unknowingly locking onto
your AP, rather than his!

 

[Colin ®]

On the other hand if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi
connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen.

Just like if they leave their car unlocked for whatever reason, they deserve
to have it stolen.

Try that defence in court and see how long you get as someones butt-boy

 

[atec]

John wrote:




Well i wouldn't do it.
On the other hand if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi
connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen.

Wrong , when caught you are going to pay as its theft , with all that
implies.

 

[Dogfart]

I would prolly try it for a bit then quickly log off and never
use it again because to me it would feel wrong to use it.

Just be careful; could be a "honeypot" to load you up with a trojan.

 

[Wing Wong]

Just like if they leave their car unlocked for whatever reason, they deserve
to have it stolen.

That being said, most insurance companies won't pay out if they find out
that you left your car unlocked when it was stolen. It happened to me,
they found the car burnt out, the door unlocked and no immobiliser.

 

[Colin ®]

That being said, most insurance companies won't pay out if they find out
that you left your car unlocked when it was stolen. It happened to me,
they found the car burnt out, the door unlocked and no immobiliser.

Sure but neither action is illegal - unless you left your keys in it which I
think is illegal.

?? how can they prove the lock was not opened by "skilled hands".

 

[Colin ®]

Just be careful; could be a "honeypot" to load you up with a trojan.

Serve him bloody right if he got zapped.

 

[DalienX]

Just like if they leave their car unlocked for whatever reason, they
deserve to have it stolen.

Try that defence in court and see how long you get as someones
butt-boy

I disagree, to steal a car, even an unlocked one would require me to
enter the persons car, hotwire said car, and drive off with it Knowing
fully well that i was stealing a car.

If a computer has a wireless network card i can quite easily imagine
the computer taking advantage of having a neighbor with unsecured
network without the user even knowing it.
A computer illiterate person would not question where internet access
was comming from, he/she might just assume they dialed up in the normal
way.

 

[DalienX]

Its just as wrong to try it, just like it is to enter
someone's house that happens to be left unlocked.

You have not read the trespass act rod.
If you leave your house unlocked and someone comes in thats not illigal
just immoral.
They are not breaking any laws unless you tell them to leave and they
dont. Then its trespass.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

You have not read the trespass act rod.

Wrong, as always.

And there is no such animal in any state anyway.

If you leave your house unlocked and someone
comes in thats not illigal just immoral.

Wrong, as always.

They are not breaking any laws unless you tell
them to leave and they dont. Then its trespass.

Wrong, as always.

 

[Colin ®]

A computer illiterate person would not question where internet access
was comming from, he/she might just assume they dialed up in the normal
way.

The old "dog ate my homework" defence.

We are not talking about accidents or ignorance - it has been said here that
use of an unprotected gateway would be tried.

There is no defence for that.

 

[DalienX]

Wrong, as always.

And there is no such animal in any state anyway.

Oh nice, you deny not having read it but claim it doesnt exsist...

Wrong, as always.


Wrong, as always.

http://notes.nt.gov.au/dcm/legislat/legislat.nsf/0/7eb73fc0a8734ab869256
ec30078946a/$FILE/Rept026.pdf

rod speed = wrong.

 

[Andrew M]

IF SOMEONE ELSE IS HAVING A GREAT COFFEE, IS IT WRONG TO ENJOY THE SMELL?

-Andrew M