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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]
I find that 15-25MPH over the limit is very comfortable for the road.

Sometimes you can even double up... the elevated curved ramp from
Pecos Road to I10W is marked as 45MPH... I don't even lean at 90MPH.

That's unusual. Typically the recommended curve speeds in the US are
quite realistic numbers, less conservative than in other countries.

I don't find that unusual at all... US speed limits are set by
politicians (to maximize revenue), NOT by road designers :-(

...Jim Thompson
 
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Joerg

krw said:
That happened in the US too.
Really? Wow. Stuff like that is just absurd. I guess it's called
entitlement mentality, where people are no longer willing to re-train
for another job because they don't have to. Me, I would feel miserable
just sitting there in order to collect a paycheck while making no real
contribution to the process.
 
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Eeyore

Joerg said:
In the UK? Back in highschool our economy teacher used their situation
as the perfect example of the level of absurdity it can reach: As in
most other countries locomotives were migrating from steam to electric
and Diesel. That meant that there was no longer a job for boilermen.
After all, if there is no boiler then you don't need a boilerman. Pretty
logical, ain't it? Not so for the union. According to what we learned
back then the union demanded that a boilerman had to be riding along on
every Diesel and electric locomotive. AFAIR this became standard
operating procedure.

Certainly not now. And certainly not in recentish times generally.

US trains seem bizarrely over-manned to us.

Graham
 
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martin griffith

Macros in there. Got a virus warning :-(

Doesn't mean there is one, of course, but why on earth don't the
bureaucrats in those organizations wise up and publish in an acceptable
form? I mean, it ain't rocket science.


I just got a macro warning, using open office, but no virus warnings.
I disabled the macros, as usual, it all seemed OK

Yep bureaucrats........


martin
 
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Joerg

Jim said:
Jim Thompson wrote:

[snip]
I find that 15-25MPH over the limit is very comfortable for the road.

Sometimes you can even double up... the elevated curved ramp from
Pecos Road to I10W is marked as 45MPH... I don't even lean at 90MPH.

That's unusual. Typically the recommended curve speeds in the US are
quite realistic numbers, less conservative than in other countries.


I don't find that unusual at all... US speed limits are set by
politicians (to maximize revenue), NOT by road designers :-(

Like the tax'em - spend it lobby? Speaking of which, we just got a
notice that some CA phone tax went from 0.05% to over 0.3%. Didn't they
just repeal the Spanish-American war tax because, ahem, that war was
kind of over? Looks like what's put in one pocket gets taken back out
the other.

Did you get that grit box shaker done?
 
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Jim Thompson

On Wed, 09 May 2007 09:53:50 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
[snip]
I don't find that unusual at all... US speed limits are set by
politicians (to maximize revenue), NOT by road designers :-(

...Jim Thompson

I thought the curve speeds were recommended maximums, not legal
maximums, since they're in orange.

They vary a lot from place to place in the US, IME, sometimes there's
an insanely tight curve with a 20mph maximum that's entirely
realistic, but other times you can easily double up on the speeds on
dry pavement.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

California seems to be fond of setting ramp speeds which screech tires
;-)

But this new Q45 of mine, with low-profile tires really, hangs in
those ramps ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
C

Charlie Edmondson

John said:
I might even admire the quality of the job.

John
And sometimes, you miss things on the applications...

Like the time we were interviewing for a Technician position, and had
gone through about 20-30 applicants before we finally got ONE that
actually know one end of a soldering iron from the other. Seemed like a
nice guy, and we were all unanimous about hiring him. Then, HR comes
down and say WTF! You want to hire HIM!

Turns out he was a convicted felon, and a RSO (Registered Sex Offender)
and they didn't want any thing to do with him. So, we ask him what it
was all about. Seems several years before, in his youth, he had gotten
drunk, and walked over to a bush to 'relieve' himself. Unfortunately
for him, there was a woman on the other side of the fence behind the
bush, and she called the police. He was convicted of public drunkeness,
exposing himself, and public urination.

He was black, the woman was white.

We hired him, and he did a great job. His nickname was 'Flash'...

Charlie
 
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Joerg

Eeyore said:
Joerg wrote:




Certainly not now. And certainly not in recentish times generally.

I am not so sure. Too long gone from Europe but I remember it was
something like the "Associated society of locomotive engineers and
firemen" that insisted on this. And got away with it.

US trains seem bizarrely over-manned to us.

The train system is quite deplorable out here. I don't use it because of
punctuality issues. Lowcost carriers such as SWA are better. So we all fly.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]
I find that 15-25MPH over the limit is very comfortable for the road.

Sometimes you can even double up... the elevated curved ramp from
Pecos Road to I10W is marked as 45MPH... I don't even lean at 90MPH.

That's unusual. Typically the recommended curve speeds in the US are
quite realistic numbers, less conservative than in other countries.

I don't find that unusual at all... US speed limits are set by
politicians (to maximize revenue), NOT by road designers :-(

...Jim Thompson

I thought the curve speeds were recommended maximums, not legal
maximums, since they're in orange.

They vary a lot from place to place in the US, IME, sometimes there's
an insanely tight curve with a 20mph maximum that's entirely
realistic, but other times you can easily double up on the speeds on
dry pavement.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
R

Rich Grise

Same here.

I heard some UL about some guy who lied his way into a job, and wasn't
discovered until it turned out that he couldn't do the job.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Eeyore wrote:

Not really out here in the US. The 900 series is considered "the
engineers car". The workmanship is just so much better. Under the hood
it looks as neat as inside a jet engine cowling. No wires slobbering
about etc.

Obviously, you've never seen the inside of a real jet engine cowling. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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krw

Really? Wow.

Yep, except that they were called "firemen" instead of "boilermen".
Stuff like that is just absurd. I guess it's called
entitlement mentality, where people are no longer willing to re-train
for another job because they don't have to.

Sure it's absurd. That's what you get when you have unions that are
too powerful (most end up that way).
Me, I would feel miserable
just sitting there in order to collect a paycheck while making no real
contribution to the process.

How else are these people going to make the big bucks and ridiculous
retirement benefits? You can't train them to be engineers. There
were already too many of them (that also couldn't be fired) and their
union would shut down the country.
 
K

krw

Really? Wow. Stuff like that is just absurd. I guess it's called
entitlement mentality, where people are no longer willing to re-train
for another job because they don't have to. Me, I would feel miserable
just sitting there in order to collect a paycheck while making no real
contribution to the process.
Sorry for the second post, but I found this rather interesting site
(haven't read it all yet):

http://www.auuuu.com/railroads/railroad_labor_organizations/history.h
tml
 
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Jim Thompson

On Wed, 09 May 2007 10:21:38 -0700, Charlie Edmondson
And sometimes, you miss things on the applications...

Like the time we were interviewing for a Technician position, and had
gone through about 20-30 applicants before we finally got ONE that
actually know one end of a soldering iron from the other. Seemed like a
nice guy, and we were all unanimous about hiring him. Then, HR comes
down and say WTF! You want to hire HIM!

Turns out he was a convicted felon, and a RSO (Registered Sex Offender)
and they didn't want any thing to do with him. So, we ask him what it
was all about. Seems several years before, in his youth, he had gotten
drunk, and walked over to a bush to 'relieve' himself. Unfortunately
for him, there was a woman on the other side of the fence behind the
bush, and she called the police. He was convicted of public drunkeness,
exposing himself, and public urination.

He was black, the woman was white.

We hired him, and he did a great job. His nickname was 'Flash'...

Charlie

Sno-o-o-o-ort!

Some of our RSO laws are just plain stupid.

Considering how many buildings I've pissed against in my youth, it's a
miracle I'm not an RSO ;-)

Not to mention how many desert bushes.

Musing... Is it illegal to "play doctor" anymore? I'll show you mine,
if...

I'd be in the slammer ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Joerg

Rich said:
I heard some UL about some guy who lied his way into a job, and wasn't
discovered until it turned out that he couldn't do the job.


Recently they busted a guy who represented people in court as an
attorney. A minor glitch there was that he never went to law school and
had no degrees or bar registration. The news anchor said that this
arrest would open up the chance for his former clients to sue him. They
asked a few of those and they seemed quite happy with his services and
didn't see any reason to sue.
 
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