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Frank Slootweg

Petzl said:
Those that count (Government agree) say we do?

But they *do not* provide it, i.e. (basic affordable) broadband *where
it's currently not available*, and they *will not* provide it for a
long, long time to come.
Originally intended by PM John Howard early 2000. As private operators
were slow to take it up the Rudd Labor Government decided that it
would be done as part of his stimulus package. The economics show
Australia can afford it. I'm in a very much Liberal Electorate and a
big issue is that voters in our and surrounding electorates that won't
be hooked up next year are screaming. So it is political suicide to
stop it's progress. Malcolm Turnbull a senior Liberal has invested
heavily in the NBN going ahead.


Every house will have a different communication port that they have
now. Looks like a optic fibre connection to me and everyone that's
seen it.

The *point* is that every house will NOT have "a different communication
port" *for a long, long time to come*.
Comparing Holland to Australia?

Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.
Australia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,

Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, that
"most Australians do not have even basic broadband", and the NBN is NOT
solving *that* problem for a long long time to come.

[Non-representative personal anecdote of replacing ADSL by mobile
broadband deleted.]
 
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Frank Slootweg

terryc said:
Breath taking for someone who claims to have travelled throughout
Australia. Good ow foot shot.

Ah, the "You're wrong, but I don't know why!" non-argument. Good one.
It will eventually.

Indeed, where "eventually" is after "a long, long time". Glad we agree!
 
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Petzl

But they *do not* provide it, i.e. (basic affordable) broadband *where
it's currently not available*, and they *will not* provide it for a
long, long time to come.
Things are changing FAST
I'll be on the NBN next year
NBN is connecting faster as time goes by there just won't be
copperwire any more
The *point* is that every house will NOT have "a different communication
port" *for a long, long time to come*.
It's happening now with main backbones already in place?
I will have it next year
8 years it will be fully completed
Comparing Holland to Australia?

Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.
Australia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,

Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, that
"most Australians do not have even basic broadband", and the NBN is NOT
solving *that* problem for a long long time to come.

[Non-representative personal anecdote of replacing ADSL by mobile
broadband deleted.]

Those that know say different
http://www.nbn.gov.au/the-vision/
 
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Petzl

Bet you wont.

And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.

Juliar won't be replaced by Abbott and there is no guarantee the
government will change there are to many voting for Greens and
Independents.
Juliar got government now because no Greens ot Independents trust
Abbott anyone but Abbott the story would be different.
Even now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott putting
Julair well above as preferred PM.
--
Petzl
Run Abbot,.run Abbott, Run! Run! Run!
Here comes Thomson and he's out for fun,
You'll get by,
Just tell another lie,
Run Abbott, run Abbott,Run! Run! Run!
 
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Rod Speed

Things are changing FAST

Like hell they are.
I'll be on the NBN next year

Not a chance, you watch.
NBN is connecting faster as time goes by

Another bare faced lie.
there just won't be copperwire any more

Another bare faced lie.

**** all if any will have been ripped out by the time
the voter pull the plug on Juliar's govt, you watch.

You can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the face
if your like, it stays a bare faced lie, just like all your other lies.

Almost anyone who wants that can have it right now.
It's happening now with main backbones already in place?

It happened long ago.
I will have it next year

No you wont.
8 years it will be fully completed

Fantasy. Abbot will be pulling the plug on it any day now.

And even if he didn't, it wouldn't get done in 8 years either.
Yours is the same backward logic, if you and Holland
want to live in grass huts thats their doing I suppose.
Huh? *We* *do* have affordable basic (and higher) broadband at every
house and *you* *do not* - and *will not* for a long, long time - and
we
are the ones living in grass huts? It's exactly the other way
around.(And to
(try to) prevent yet another whoosh: "we" and "you" are generic, .e.
*all* of
The Netherlands and *all* of Australia, not just me and you.)
Comparing Holland to Australia?
Nope, just pointing out your having things completely backwards.
Australia (sq km) 7686850 (Pop 20,601,000)
Holland (sq km) 41526 (Pop 16,645,000)
Seems like our population is not as highly concentrated than yours
Again most Australians do not have even basic broadband,
Ding, ding, we *have* a winner! The *problem* is, as you say, that
"most Australians do not have even basic broadband", and the NBN
is NOTsolving *that* problem for a long long time to come.
[Non-representative personal anecdote of replacing ADSL by mobile
broadband deleted.]
Those that know say different

Another lie.

That aint 'those that know', liar.
 
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Rod Speed

Juliar won't be replaced by Abbott

Fools like you ran the same line about Bligh and Newman
and about Keneally and O'Farrell too. It happened anyway.
and there is no guarantee the government will change

Fools like you ran the same line about the NSW
and QLD elections too. It happened anyway.
there are to many voting for Greens and Independents.

Not anymore, you watch.
Juliar got government now because no Greens ot Independents trust Abbott

That's another lie. The independents just didn't want another election liar.

Irrelevant to what will happen in the next election, you watch.
anyone but Abbott the story would be different.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Even now the polls show the voting public don't like Abbott
putting Julair well above as preferred PM.

That's never what determines an election result, fool.
 
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Petzl

That's never what determines an election result, fool.

It did last time
When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't
Your premise on the NBN not being completed totally rest on an Abbott
win. A lot can happen between now and then
 
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SG1

Petzl said:
It did last time
When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't
Your premise on the NBN not being completed totally rest on an Abbott
win. A lot can happen between now and then
You will get Juliared and never get it off your foot!!!!!
 
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Rod Speed

It did last time

Another bare faced pig ignorant lie.

He got one hell of a swing away from Labor and the only
thing that saw a minority govt was Juliar's bare faced lie
that there would be no carbon tax which the most stupid
of the voters were actually stupid enough to believe.

They wont believe a thing that liar claims this time around, you watch.

If she actually manages to be the PM until the election.
When people going to vote Liberal and Abbott is still there they won't

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

The voters that matter are about to get an 18% hike
in their electricity bills NEXT MONTH and you can be
completely confident that they will blame that on the
stupid carbon tax and Labor will be flushed where it
belongs as comprehensively as they were in NSW, QLD
and VIC, you watch.

And your stupid NBN with it.
Your premise on the NBN not being
completed totally rest on an Abbott win.

And there will not only be a win, it will be as complete
a decimation as we saw in NSW, QLD and VIC, you watch.
A lot can happen between now and then

Yep, Juliar could well be politically assassinated.

Not that that will make any difference to the election result, Labor
will be flushed where it belongs for a generation, you watch.
 
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Petzl

You will get Juliared and never get it off your foot!!!!!

That's only because of Abbott future elections with that arsehole
leading liberal will be the same. Don't know anyone that prers him to
Juliar he's that bad
 
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Polly the Parrott

You can keep chanting that lie till you are blue in the face
if your like, it stays a bare faced lie, just like all your other lies.

Don't worry about Pizzle - just a moronic ALP shrill, who can't think
for himself.
 
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Polly the Parrott

Bet you wont.

And I bet Juliar's govt doesn't last 15 months too.

Please God it be true!

What do you think will cause this, Roddles?
 
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Polly the Parrott

Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

Liar Pizzle.

You still can't back up this shit stain claim of yours.
 
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Rod Speed

Another bare faced lie.
That's only because of Abbott

Another bare faced lie.
future elections with that arsehole leading liberal will be the same.

Another bare faced lie.
Don't know anyone that prers him to Juliar he's that bad

Another bare faced lie.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that when he is very close to Juliar on preferred PM,
that means that close to HALF of those asked prefer
him to Juliar, you silly little pathological liar.
 
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Rod Speed

Please God it be true!
What do you think will cause this, Roddles?

That's always hard to say. Who would have predicted what
happened with Slipper, or that Juliar would boot Thompson out ?

Or that federal Labor would actually be stupid enough
to assassinate the Dud in his first term after he delivered
govt to them for the first time in 15 years.

Or that they would have actually been stupid enough to
have him the first place.

Or that they would have actually been stupid enough to
have Juliar instead of him.

Political partys in their electoral death
throes can be a tad unpredictable at times.
 
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Rod Speed

Don't worry about Pizzle - just a moronic
ALP shrill, who can't think for himself.

He's even stupider than that.

He's actually stupid enough to voter for anyone but labor or liberal.

And hasn't got a fucking clue about Islam either.

Or anything else at all either.
 
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Petzl

He's even stupider than that.

He's actually stupid enough to voter for anyone but labor or liberal.

And hasn't got a fucking clue about Islam either.

Or anything else at all either.

Voted Liberal often
--
Petzl
" 'we are a Christian nation' with 'Christian values' to which newcomers should conform, while enjoying freedom for their own beliefs." Pauline Hanson.

"If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with Christian norms. The things we do, the way our political parties behave, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian ideals." Paul Keating.

"The Monarchy is important, not because of the power it wields, but because of the power it denies others."
Winston Churchill
 
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Petzl

Please God it be true!

What do you think will cause this, Roddles?

While Abbott is the worst choice Gillard is 2nd worst
--
Petzl
Run Abbot,.run Abbott, Run! Run! Run!
Here comes Thomson and he's out for fun,
You'll get by,
Just tell another lie,
Run Abbott, run Abbott,Run! Run! Run!
 
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