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Evil Designers Guide to Copying Patents

J

John Larkin

You well know it's not as simple as that.
All copyrights and patents get you is entry to the court, providing you
have enough money.


There's no such thing in business.

Businesses are run by people, and all people have their own ethics.
IBM has a history of ethical behavior (and good products), and
Microsoft has a history of dishonesty and ruthlessness (and crap.)
The rules are written down and interpreted by the courts.
That's the beginning and end of it.

Not here.

John
 
D

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

John said:
Businesses are run by people, and all people have their own ethics.
IBM has a history of ethical behavior (and good products), and
Microsoft has a history of dishonesty and ruthlessness (and crap.)


Not here.

Like you say, we all have our personal ethics.
But that's not what runs our societies.

--
Dirk

http://www.onetribe.me.uk - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM 104.4
http://www.resonancefm.com
 
H

Homer J Simpson

All copyrights and patents get you is entry to the court, providing you
have enough money.

In many countries, copyright is enforced by the state while patents are left
to private lawsuits. Beats me why.
 
K

krw

You well know it's not as simple as that.
All copyrights and patents get you is entry to the court, providing you
have enough money.

Copyright infringement can be a criminal violation is some cases.
The US code includes both.
There's no such thing in business.

Certainly there is, just as there is in personal life.
 
K

krw

Like you say, we all have our personal ethics.
But that's not what runs our societies.

I disagree. Unfortunately more and more are on your side, as
evidenced here.
 
D

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

krw said:
I disagree. Unfortunately more and more are on your side, as
evidenced here.

Consider my attitude to be pre-emptive cynicism.
You are remarkably optimistic (if you're an American) despite living in
a lawyer society.

In a multicultural society there are by definition many different
ethics, and hence the lawyers. Compare Japan.

--
Dirk

http://www.onetribe.me.uk - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM 104.4
http://www.resonancefm.com
 
L

legg

I'm going to tick off some patent owners. :p
12) Get ready to mass produce the patent just before the patent
expires.
D from BC

Where did you develop this unrealistic evaluation of a patent's
contents?

I knew a dog once, who could pick up any mangy stick or piece of trash
and convince every other dog in the neighbourhood to chase after him
for it.

His best trick was abandoning one 'gem', and picking up another at
random. The other dogs could never figure it out.

RL
 
M

MassiveProng

I remember Kodak coming out with their own version and losing the lawsuit
big-time. I still see the cameras in thrifts here and there - no film for
them so what's the point?


Polaroid went out of business. Kodak killed their Rochester based
facilities as well.

That is why you can buy a House in Rochester for $6k, and drive down
main street past a bank with a sign on the windows that says "Your
name here".

Doesn't matter that they won the case... they lost the war.
 
M

MassiveProng

You well know it's not as simple as that.
All copyrights and patents get you is entry to the court, providing you
have enough money.


You fucking "do it until caught or cited to court" asswipes are
fucking hilarious.

Do you have no honor, dipshit?
 
M

MassiveProng

There's no such thing in business.
The rules are written down and interpreted by the courts.
That's the beginning and end of it.


Ahh... a characterless bastard as well I see.

You're a fucking idiot, boy.
 
M

MassiveProng

Businesses are run by people, and all people have their own ethics.
IBM has a history of ethical behavior (and good products), and
Microsoft has a history of dishonesty and ruthlessness (and crap.)


And you have a history od spewing horseshit and bullshit.
 
M

MassiveProng

Like you say, we all have our personal ethics.
But that's not what runs our societies.


You're right. If it did, unethical fucktards like you would be
nothing more than a wet spot somewhere several feet below the earth,
feeding the worms.
 
M

MassiveProng

Consider my attitude to be pre-emptive cynicism.
You are remarkably optimistic (if you're an American) despite living in
a lawyer society.

In a multicultural society there are by definition many different
ethics, and hence the lawyers. Compare Japan.


You're fucking lost, and your bent perception of reality should bite
you in the ass one day.
 
M

MassiveProng

I have a history of designing electronics.

Your remarks have no foundation or basis in fact.

IBM reamed the banking industry for decades. Doesn't matter that
they had SOME good products.

Billy is just a shrewd businessman that chumps like you are jealous
of. Tell us of his "dishonesty". You are just likely pissed off that
some of your earnings needs to be used to make you gear attached to
your computers do things like spit out invoices and shipper tags.
Nice forte agent you got there. If you are so pissed off, why isn't
your home, as well as your office computers all running another OS?

You are a fucking hypocrite. This week in particular.
 
This post made me wonder, "WTF CORDIC?", so I asked google. The
first hit was pretty cool - I especially like item 1.1:http://www.dspguru.com/info/faqs/cordic.htm

Cheers!
Rich

The cordic was used in the first generation scientific calculators, so
I was told. Quite frankly, it is a brilliant algorithm. When you build
it in hardware, you need to think in binary. That is, divide the
circle into 256 arcs, 512, etc. You need to build the ROM a few bits
larger than the final word size. There is the issue of vector growing
with each iteration, but that is solved by scaling the vector to
account for the expansion.

What is interesting is once you have the cordic, which you need for
DSP based communication, things that you used to do in analog can be
done better with the cordic. For instance, you can demod FSK by taking
the arcsine of the sampled data stream, fitting a linear regression to
a given set of samples, then using the slope of that line to determine
the incoming frequency. The cordic can be used to generate DTMF with
silly overkill accuracy. Of course, I can neither confirm nor deny
knowledge of such schemes, as admitting to using a cordic may have
violated one of the hundreds of related patents.

There is a Phd dissertation in Terman library (Stanford) that dissects
the cordic with painful detail.

I put the cordic in the same league as the bandgap reference. It is
proof we, well some people, are smarter than the apes!
 
G

Gerhard Hoffmann

Well, I see that as a rare case where the patent system worked right.

Looks more like NOT patenting their new stuff worked - and keeping their
mouth shut for 16 years.


Gerhard
 
K

krw

Looks more like NOT patenting their new stuff worked - and keeping their
mouth shut for 16 years.

That wouldn't have worked if the patent system hadn't worked (before
or after).
 
K

krw

Polaroid went out of business. Kodak killed their Rochester based
facilities as well.

Well, Dimmie, Kodak hasn't been exactly healthy recently either.
That is why you can buy a House in Rochester for $6k, and drive down
main street past a bank with a sign on the windows that says "Your
name here".

Kodak and Xerox couldn't have anything to do with that, could they
MassivelyWrong?
Doesn't matter that they won the case...
DoesntMatter? Maybe you should change you nym.
they lost the war.

....to digital photography, Dimbulb.
 
K

krw

Consider my attitude to be pre-emptive cynicism.
You are remarkably optimistic (if you're an American) despite living in
a lawyer society.

I am. Ethics does run our society, which is perhaps why it's so
frayed around the edges. One can't have laws against all possible
evils and have a free society at the same time. One must rely on
personal responsibility and integrity or the society is doomed.
Apparently your answer is that it is.
In a multicultural society there are by definition many different
ethics, and hence the lawyers. Compare Japan.

Another reason to severely limit immigration.
 
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