Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:43:34 +1000
Calvin said:
Hi all,
I, and I'm sure many others, are heartily SICK of the endless abuse /
counter-abuse flame war that seems to go on between these people and those
others who can be bothered to take the time to read such nonsense.
Then DO something about it. Whining is of no use to anyone.
These types *love* to hear the Noise of whining.
It is way past the time of trying to apportion blame as to 'who started it' or
'who is responsible'. They, by their actions, are now all collectively
responsible. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
You are American right? Yeh thought so.
As naive a bunch of poor saps as were ever blown wind into :-/
That statement you have just made is the Very Reason WHY Trolls like Gymmy B0B/
JP Bengi survive. The tactic / strategy is to confuse every bystander to the
point where they are so pissed off the Group implodes.
Disconnected lethargical apathetic troglodytes,, as you read as,, contribute
heartily to their "fun".
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI am quite certain all this type of behaviour succeeds in
accomplishing is driving people away from what should be a useful newsgroup.
....and now you know WHY. Again, get off your butt and DO something other than
sit there and bleat!
I for one would be much better pleased if this needless and utterly pointless
chatter drew to a quick close !
I will bet you would. Like all self-centered people Uno Numero is most important
huh? <rhetorical>
The day you understand you are trying to be part of a community - one that is
supposed to be self regulating - is the day you will do more than just whine.
I have simply not had the time to check *every* Group and *every alias* that
GimmeButt uses. But I did *_do something_* when he started in on the Group I am
concerned for. I went and checked his posting habits out on Google.
Not hard, took all of an hour or two at the first pass. That is something *you
could do*. My first investigation was months ago. In the time between I have
watched this arsehole morph and evolve as he leaves one
dead group and moves onto the next.
The factors that ensure he will visit you and your threads?
*Where there is strong opinion voiced - particularly when one of the candid
posters has it all cocked up yet makes a good (believable) story of it.
*Where the "news reader" believes what they see as a screen view - meaning, the
computer operator has no skills or tools to "look at the back of the picture".
And little to no initiative to check that which is read for accuracy.
*Where the audience is largely focused on "getting something for nothing".
This is why he hangs out in Groups that would normally harbour one or two
professionals. They soon leave when he turns up :-/
*Where there is an inherent sociological theme or weakness he can play on.
Once identified he works that weakness to the max.
Bullshit you say?
Go check these three that I know of:
alt.pets.parrots.cockatiels<Pizza Girl> < Peizzo Guru> <Gym Bob>- Group dead.
alt.support.celiac <Gymmy Bob> <Gìmmìe Bob> <JP Bengi> - Group reduced.
alt.binaries.crafts.pictures<all of the above + numerous ID thefts/froggeries>.
There are many many more for the looking. Any Group where "average joe" types
hang out in discussing "personal problems" out in the open, he is there,
sniping away.
I first ran across him over in alt.home.repair last year. He had his "ass
whupped" as you 'mericuns say , good and hard.
He hasn't been back since, that I have noticed.
I am really very surprised PJMilligan has not joined in thrashing GimmeBUTTS
efforts here, if only for the cross-posting shit that GB so loves to start..
Maybe PJM is asleep or has the arsehole on KFd, or maybe like he says "'Some
days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints."???
Whatever,, sitting back and saying "not my problem and I wish you all would
STFU" is NOT going to get this arsehole off your back.
Be proactive and throw the G00N out of the Group.
I cannot tell you "how To" as every Group is different so different strategies
apply. What I can tell you is that once you start on him he will pull every
trick that he knows. Whilst his Book is not big if you are not alert he will
create confusion.
Complain to Golden.net by all means but I can tell you from experience that
after numerous complaints from three of us over some weeks in one Group the only
outcome is his nym change to the J P Bengi alias which he claims is a Real Name
, another bit of BullShit.
I haven't seen him use his TeraNews account for a while so maybe we had a
success there also , who knows<shrug>.
It is pointless for one person to complain as any Sys.Admin. worth his salt will
label the complaints as KooK complaints.
IME the best results are gained from continually attacking his posts.
He soon runs out of Cut&Paste stories :-/
IF you yourself Calvin, after reading this, still want to do nothing, then do
yourself and this Group a big favour and *say nothing*.
Attacking the efforts of "the Good Guys" is worse than the apathy some users of
UseNEt adopt as "contribution" :-]
cheers
f00 wasere
ps..needless to say GimmeButts pleadings in response will cover the full
spectrum of mental illness, policing threats and "victim statements" as per his
usual MO, All even more verbose than this brief insight to the turds psychosis.
