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keith

The Cromemco Dazzler fit into the Altair 8800. The Altair hit 30 years
ago, the Dazzler not much later, and provided color graphics. A couple
of months after the Altair was on the cover of Popular Electronics,

I wasn't arguing that either the IBM PC, nor it's use of graphis was
somehow "new". It was the first to wear the "PC" badge though. ...again,
depending on how you define things one can come up with any number of
"right" answers.
the Cromemco Cylcops (Cromemco may not have been a company yet) was in
the magazine, a CCD camera that interfaced with the Altair. The Altair
was on the January 1975 issue, which came out in December. The Cyclops
may have been in the next issue, overlapping the second part of the
Altair article.

The PET and the Apple were downright late, unless one is going by the
title of "PC"; it had been a generic term before the IBM PC came along.

Actually, it wasn't such a "generic term". It becames such retroactively.
Yes, I am old enough to remember all these failed widgets. ;-)
And of course, the concept predates the Altair. ALan Kay described a
"personal computer" when at Xerox Parc even if it was never implemented
at that point. And the Xerox Alto (or was it Altos?) was a single-user
computer, bringing in many of the things that later became common, even
if it never made it to a commercial product.

Hell, *ALL* computers were "single user" in the '60s. ;-)
 
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Rich Grise

Hi Spehro,


Now just imagine: Pa gives son a Home Depot gift card for Christmas. Son
hands Pa a present: A Home Depot gift card! This has actually happened.
Then there are the 'sinner's gift cards'. We can buy cards that hold
x-many pounds (pounds!) of bonbons and other candy from a certain local
brand. Yeah, it all tastes great but that really packs in the weight.

We only got one card ever. From neighbors whom we helped out of a
pickle. But there is a caveat: If you don't use it all up by this or
that date the restaurant takes a monthly 'maintenance fee' until
depleted. I never figured out what needs to be maintained on a gift
card. They never came out to polish the plastic or anything.

Now after that MP3 car radio story I feel really old. We live in the
stone age. No MP3, no DVD player, neither cable TV nor satellite. But,
we have a guitar, a piano, an old Hammond organ and a wood stove.

Those things you describe are the cheap kind, like giving somebody a
coupon book full of "Buy one, get one free". They get a cut-rate because
the loss the store takes on the card is much, much cheaper than a
full-page ad in the Sunday supplement, and it gets the recipient into the
store more reliably.

The one I saw was actual cash money, on an ATM card with a given balance,
just like - wait a minute.

There are gift checks, which spend like a gift certificate, but anywhere,
and are full cash value. The card I saw was billed as a "travel" card -
essentially an ATM card with a certain balance, that if it gets lost, you
call, they deactivate the card, and issue you a new one for whatever you
had before you lost it. But I didn't see them offered as gifts - just for
one person, just like traveler's checks, but 100 times more convenient.

I really, really like the idea, being a dissident - it lets those of us
who are slipping through the cracks still buy stuff in a "cashless
society". ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jim Thompson wrote...

Why bother with natural gas? Gasoline in a small tank is so much safer
to handle, and it's a thoroughly experienced and understood application.

ISTR gasoline can sit in a lawnmower all winter and still run the mower.
;-) But for an emergency generator, how picky would you have to be about
keeping the gasoline "fresh"? 3 AM in the middle of a blackout is a pretty
awful time to go searching for an open gas station. =:-O

Thanks,
Rich
 
K

keith

ISTR gasoline can sit in a lawnmower all winter and still run the mower.
;-)

Tell my snowblower that. :-(. What a PITA. If they'd just tell me when
the last snowfall of the years was, I'd let the thing run out... Of
course that would make it too easy to change the oil, as well. I did some
plumbing today, so that should be a major problem anymore. Though it's a
little late. If it makes it through this winter, I'm tickled! Maybe
we'll move before I need to buy another.
But for an emergency generator, how picky would you have to be about
keeping the gasoline "fresh"? 3 AM in the middle of a blackout is a pretty
awful time to go searching for an open gas station. =:-O

Exactly. Gasoline generators have to be run every few months or they
don't. For some reason our building at work has some humungous diesel
generators underground in the back. At one time they were important, and
were run every month or so. Even diesels get funky if not run. Natura
gas seems to me to be the perfect fuel for such things.

BTW, I understand Home Despot sells NG fueled home generators. I'm sure
they're not displayed out front though.
 
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Joerg

Hi Rich,
ISTR gasoline can sit in a lawnmower all winter and still run the mower.
;-) But for an emergency generator, how picky would you have to be about
keeping the gasoline "fresh"? 3 AM in the middle of a blackout is a pretty
awful time to go searching for an open gas station. =:-O

Which probably won't be able to pump any gas since the power is out....

Unless there is a checklist and it is followed as regularly as the
battery change in smoke detectors, it could end like that spare tire in
a 10 year old car: Flat.

I'd go for a UPS here. As long as all applicable codes and other safety
measures are followed.

Regards, Joerg
 
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Rich Grise

;-)

I don't think you had pixel level control until Hercules came along and
fixed it.

Yeah, they did. It was called the CGA - Color Graphics Adapter. 320x200,
16 colors, or bitmapped text at 40x25.

Hercules certainly got in on the game, and I can't say if they beat IBM to
market with the color graphics, but I hadn't heard of them until well
after I had a CGA. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Richard the Dreaded Liberal

Where there's potential, there's soon an application. Especially where
marketing is concerned.

People will want to implant them in their kids because tattoos are too
noticeable. There will be much government support for this idea, of course.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Richard the Dreaded Liberal

The Cromemco Dazzler fit into the Altair 8800. The Altair hit 30 years
ago, the Dazzler not much later, and provided color graphics. A couple
of months after the Altair was on the cover of Popular Electronics,
the Cromemco Cylcops (Cromemco may not have been a company yet) was
in the magazine, a CCD camera that interfaced with the Altair. The
Altair was on the January 1975 issue, which came out in December. The
Cyclops may have been in the next issue, overlapping the second part of
the Altair article.

The PET and the Apple were downright late, unless one is going by the
title of "PC"; it had been a generic term before the IBM PC came along.

And of course, the concept predates the Altair. ALan Kay described a
"personal computer" when at Xerox Parc even if it was never implemented
at that point. And the Xerox Alto (or was it Altos?) was a single-user
computer, bringing in many of the things that later became common, even if it
never made it to a commercial product.
The Scelbi 8H, 8008/14KB, was pre-1975; I remember because I was still in
the USAF when I got mine, and I got out in 1976. Maybe even as early as
'72 or '73. I traded a guy my Heathkit IO-10 for it. I had just assembled
the scope, and hadn't tracked down all of my errors yet (i.e., it didn't
operate yet), but this guy was tired of the 8H because I/O was 8 toggle
switches, 3 un-debounced buttons labeled "interrupt" "step" and I forget
the others. And about 20 LEDs - address/data bus, high address bus, and
processor status lines. To get a program into it, you had to "jam" it in,
by putting the opcode on the toggle switches, pressing "interrupt," which
made it fetch the byte off the switches and get ready to execute it -
"step" would make it either execute the instruction if it was a one-byte
instruction, or make it read the next byte of the instruction off the
toggle switches, and _then_ execute it - for most instructions, you had to
press "step" multiple times - it wasn't an _instruction_ step, it was a
_machine_ step. He found it to be enough of a pain in the ass that he was
willing to trade a perfectly good computer for a busted scope. Of course,
to me, it was like I was home, i.e. "Please don't throw me in that briar
patch!" I like to see what my electronics are doing. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


Cheers!
Rich
 
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JeffM

I don't think you had pixel level control
Yeah, they did. It was called the CGA
--Color Graphics Adapter. 320x200,
16 colors, or bitmapped text at 40x25.
Rich Grise
Rich is right.
It was the 40-column text that was the hitch.
Businesses hated it.

Hercules certainly got in on the game,
and I can't say if they beat IBM to market with the color graphics
They didn't.
CGA was chronologically concurrent with MDA (August 1981).

HGC ==> 1982
Good enough on graphics (for many);
superior on text (well, same as MDA).
720 x 348, 4 colors.; 80 x 25 text.
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cach...1982+color-graphics-adapter+individual-pixels
 
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John Woodgate

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <[email protected]>
ISTR gasoline can sit in a lawnmower all winter and still run the mower.
;-)

Not in Britain. The mower repairers are kept in business by 'won't
start' business caused simply by old fuel. I found this out the hard way
- trying to start small farm machines at zero Celsius.
But for an emergency generator, how picky would you have to be about
keeping the gasoline "fresh"? 3 AM in the middle of a blackout is a
pretty awful time to go searching for an open gas station. =:-O

If you keep the gas in a can rather than in the fuel tank, it keeps much
better.
 
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martin griffith

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/01/03/cnn25.top25.innovations

CNN's list of the top 25 innovations of the last 25 years.

2. Cell phone
3. Personal computers
4. Fiber optics
5. E-mail
6. Commercialized GPS
7. Portable computers
8. Memory storage discs
9. Consumer level digital camera
10. Radio frequency ID tags
11. MEMS
12. DNA fingerprinting
13. Air bags
14. ATM
15. Advanced batteries
16. Hybrid car
17. OLEDs
18. Display panels
19. HDTV
20. Space shuttle
21. Nanotechnology
22. Flash memory
23. Voice mail
24. Modern hearing aids
25. Short Range, High Frequency Radio

The number one innovation will be announced on Sunday, January 16,
at 8 p.m. ET. What do you think it is?
I think its this
http://www.2000ad.nu/spacefleet/merchandise/ddcosred.jpg




martin

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
 
K

Kryten

Turbogenset (Heathrow, UK) make turbine-powered generator sets.

Generators want to be turned at high speed low torque, and so need a heavy
gearbox driven by a heavy low-speed high-torque diesel.

Turbines are lighter and high speed low torque so less need for gearing.

So weight savings all round.

I expect they cost more as turbines tend to be higher-spec engineering than
diesels, and the electronics needed to produce the mains AC.

But it would be cool to play with a small jet engine eh?
 
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Daniel Haude

On 8 Jan 2005 08:33:57 -0800,
in Msg. said:
CNN's list of the top 25 innovations of the last 25 years.

[...]

They seem to be very narrow-mindedly focused on technology alone. I'm sure
there must've been some new *idea* somewhere on the globe that's greater
than the invention of a better answering machine (voice mail).

--Daniel
 
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Jim Thompson

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <[email protected]>


Not in Britain. The mower repairers are kept in business by 'won't
start' business caused simply by old fuel. I found this out the hard way
- trying to start small farm machines at zero Celsius.


If you keep the gas in a can rather than in the fuel tank, it keeps much
better.

But a natural gas machine needs no gasoline station ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Keith Williams

Yeah, they did. It was called the CGA - Color Graphics Adapter. 320x200,
16 colors, or bitmapped text at 40x25.

Hercules certainly got in on the game, and I can't say if they beat IBM to
market with the color graphics, but I hadn't heard of them until well
after I had a CGA. ;-)

Hercules hardly beat the IBM. The CGA card shipped on the original
5150. I have one. Hercules claim to fame was the graphics card
driving the monochrome display.
 
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John Woodgate

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <[email protected]>
I have to admit, "Interplanatory rays" are a new innovation....

Wrong name! They don't 'go between', they 'come out', so they must be
'explanatory rays'.
 
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Al

Keith Williams said:
Hercules hardly beat the IBM. The CGA card shipped on the original
5150. I have one. Hercules claim to fame was the graphics card
driving the monochrome display.

What about the Copmmodore VIC-20? Peek and Poke to the graphics page
using the built in BASIC. Dare you to try that with Winders!

Al
 
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Tim Shoppa

The number one innovation will be announced on Sunday, January 16,
at 8 p.m. ET. What do you think it is?

The Signetics 555.
(Sorry, Jim, the MC1488 comes close, but doesn't quite make it.)

Tim.
 
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Anthony Fremont

Tim Shoppa said:
The Signetics 555.
(Sorry, Jim, the MC1488 comes close, but doesn't quite make it.)

That came out before 1980, about 8 years before.
 
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