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Barry Lennox

-----Spare set of gloves or socks; good close fitting hat; map (compass
isn't much use without it); food for 3 days (nuts,raisins,chocolate);
billy; windbreaker or parka; leggings;

Yep, I do carry most of that, depending where I'm going, and the
season, etc, etc. And these days I don't go too far without the
ultra-lite gas stove. The list I provided was just the little survival
pack, that goes in regardless of place or season.
 
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Barry Lennox

Yes, agreed, there's umpteen thousands of them installed. I was
referring to manufacturers. And there may not be actually be hundreds
of them, but it seems like it.

Barry
 
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Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie

-----Spare set of gloves or socks; good close fitting hat; map (compass
isn't much use without it); food for 3 days (nuts,raisins,chocolate);
billy; windbreaker or parka; leggings;

Is that like a billy-boil, or like a billy-club? ;-)

Thanks!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie

Yep, I do carry most of that, depending where I'm going, and the season,
etc, etc. And these days I don't go too far without the ultra-lite gas
stove. The list I provided was just the little survival pack, that goes
in regardless of place or season.

Just today I was looking for "Jell-o shots" and stumbled on this:
http://www.myscienceproject.org/j-shot.html

which seems to have an excellent recipe, and then went on to this:
http://www.myscienceproject.org/j-shot-2.html

Where it sounds like they've discovered homemade Sterno, although it does
seem a waste of perfectly drinkable alcohol. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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The Real Andy

You wouldn't ge 100 million EPIRB buyers. We probably don't have 100
million GPS owners.

I appreciate the post about Australia. I wondered why so many google
searches for EPIRB end up there.

I think most people dont realise that most of Australia is typically
just a glorified desert!
 
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Jan Panteltje

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:44:05 +1300) it happened Barry Lennox
<[email protected]>:

\>Aw, Gee, I'm a sucker today. But here tis' (I'd like to think it may
save someone's ass one day)

Matches, waterproof, in a 35mm film cannister
candle stub
Butane lighter, disposable
Zippo lighter
several Band-Aids and a crepe bandage
2-3 safety pins
a dozen or so Disprin
"Airguide" whistle, also has thermometer, magnifying glass and compass
built-in
100 mL bottle of alcohol.
Water purifying tablets
fish hooks and line
nylon parachute cord
Space blanket
Swiss army knife.
2 x CDs (Signal mirrors)
2-3 single edged razor blades
pencil and paper
small roll of duct tape
LED flashlight and spare batteries
Plastic bags large and small
A 35 mm cannister holding cotton wool balls soaked in vaseline (a
great firestarter)
Waxed cardboard box to hold most of the above (secondary duty as
firestarter)

It seems like a lot, but it packs up small and light.

Probably most importantly, I have read several books over the years
on survival, and carry that knowledge between my ears. It weighs
nothing. (1s and 0s weigh the same!) And I practice some of the
skills every time I can.

Barry


I have heard that if you go desert, then bring a sheet of clear plastic.
Then if you need water, dig a hole, put the plastic over it, with a cup
below, and a stone to dent it where the cup is.
Some condensation on the bottom of the plastic sheet will form and that
water will slide down and drip into the cup.

_____ ______ platic sheet
---| \ / |--------------- desert
| \ stone / |
| \ O / |
| \/ |
| |
| (__) cup |
|___________| hole

not to scale
 
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maxfoo

the squirrel may get your nuts. B-)

Then take a swig of the "100 mL bottle of alcohol" and wrap up what's left of
your nuts with the "small roll of duct tape"
 
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Joel Kolstad

Jan Panteltje said:
I have heard that if you go desert, then bring a sheet of clear plastic.
Then if you need water, dig a hole, put the plastic over it, with a cup
below, and a stone to dent it where the cup is.
Some condensation on the bottom of the plastic sheet will form and that
water will slide down and drip into the cup.

We did that back in Boy Scouts. It does work, although what isn't mentioned
is that the water collected is usually rather dirty... bits of sand & dirt &
what-not inevitably make their way onto the plastic sheet and into the cut.

Granted, if you're otherwise dying of thrist, I doubt you'd care...
 
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Jim Thompson

We did that back in Boy Scouts. It does work, although what isn't mentioned
is that the water collected is usually rather dirty... bits of sand & dirt &
what-not inevitably make their way onto the plastic sheet and into the cut.

Granted, if you're otherwise dying of thrist, I doubt you'd care...

Naaah! The politically correct crowd has installed "watering holes"
all along the southern deserts so the illegals don't die of thirst...
though they might frown on us ordinary gringos drinking the water ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Rich Grise

I have heard that if you go desert, then bring a sheet of clear plastic.
Then if you need water, dig a hole, put the plastic over it, with a cup
below, and a stone to dent it where the cup is. Some condensation on the
bottom of the plastic sheet will form and that water will slide down and
drip into the cup.

Was that supposed to look like this? :)
_____ platic sheet ______
--| \ / |--------------- desert
| \ stone / |
| \ O / |
| \/ |
| |
| (__) cup |
|_____________| hole

On my server it wrapped kinda funny.

I've seen diagrams of a version of this, where they cut up a cactus, and
lined the hole with cactus slices. Pulp side up, of course. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Jan Panteltje

Was that supposed to look like this? :)
_____ platic sheet ______
--| \ / |--------------- desert
| \ stone / |
| \ O / |
| \/ |
| |
| (__) cup |
|_____________| hole

On my server it wrapped kinda funny.

You need to use a fixed size font.
I've seen diagrams of a version of this, where they cut up a cactus, and
lined the hole with cactus slices. Pulp side up, of course. ;-)

Yes that would work too, lost of moist in the plant, but then may as well
bring a cactus press :)
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Jan said:
You need to use a fixed size font.




Yes that would work too, lost of moist in the plant, but then may as well
bring a cactus press :)
the other source of moisture you can add is to 'relieve' yourself into
the ground adjacent to your still...

or, add any other source of moisture available...

Charlie
 
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Rich Grise

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:11:35 GMT) it happened Rich Grise

You need to use a fixed size font.

I did. I've been using a fixed sized font since I figured it out about
a decade ago.

_YOU_ need to use a fixed-sized font. >:-[ [ ed. note: ;-) ]
Yes that would work too, lost of moist in the plant, but then may as well
bring a cactus press :)

Which weighs more: a cactus press or a 1m x 1m sheet of 3 mil (.1mm?) poly? ;-)

We're talking about being lost here, after all. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich the Newsgroup Wacko

the other source of moisture you can add is to 'relieve' yourself into the
ground adjacent to your still...

And make the cup look like a little toilet bowl, to be sure you'll miss...
;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Jan Panteltje

You need to use a fixed size font.

I did. I've been using a fixed sized font since I figured it out about
a decade ago.

_YOU_ need to use a fixed-sized font. >:-[ [ ed. note: ;-) ]

I think maybe you changed some settings in your newsreader, or whetever you used.
I looked up my original posting text, and it is correct in fixed font in 2 different
editors.
Which weighs more: a cactus press or a 1m x 1m sheet of 3 mil (.1mm?) poly? ;-)

Cactus press can be very small, plastic or just cut a peace and press it
with some stones.
We're talking about being lost here, after all. ;-)

Actually in my country is is _really_ difficult to get lost.
There is a sign on every corner and a bar on every street corner.

hehe
 
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joseph2k

Richard said:
I wonder who foots the bill for trying to protect those idiots from
their own negligence?

They should get this year's Darwin award, and the rescuers who put
themselves at risk at taxpayer expense should be a close runner-up.

Thanks,
Rich

To qualify you must kill yourself before you breed.
 
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