Bob Pease Show

[Paul Rako]

I am a presenter with Bob at the show. A few people have complained
that they thought the whole show would be just Bob, all Bob. Think
about this-- he has to do 70 cities one workday after another with no
break except a weekend where he is far from home. He would have to
lecture 8 hours a day. This is impossible. As it is he lectures more
then any college professor on tour. He does about 4 half hour
segments-- two hours a day is all any presenter can take, believe me.
As to marketing-- we are all application engineers, NOT marketing
types. Sure, we are going to talk about our chips-- whose do you
expect us to discuss? We try to teach the right way to apply our
chips and keep you from making mistakes. The things we teach almost
always apply to our competitor's chips too but we sure aren't going to
spend the million dollars on a seminar tour to put those parts up on
the screen (;^o)-

If some of the material was "beneath" you I aplogise. It is very hard
to know the experiance of a general audiance. We see more and more
digital engineers being called on to do analog so we try to help those
poor less-experianced souls as well as the experianced engineers. I
will show the threads to Bob today (we are Lund Sweden on our way to
Stockholm tommorow). I also will make sure our management reads it--
most of the comments are positive, but I can tell you that I was
instructed to NOT make this a marketing pitch-- this is just
application engineers trying to help you do your job. (I am a little
sick of those white LED driver circuits too, BTW!)

Paul

 

[Steve Taylor]

If some of the material was "beneath" you I aplogise. It is very hard
to know the experiance of a general audiance.

Hi Paul,
Its nice to know that NatSemi actually surfs in here occasionally.

With respect, the audience sure as hell ISN'T a "general" one !

We see more and more digital engineers being called on to do analog

So they should read some more books. Even digital designers start out
with Analog. Don't they ?

(I am a little

sick of those white LED driver circuits too, BTW!)

Amen.

Steve

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Paul,

All of the application presentations coming out of NS are excellent- I
give you five stars all the way- and this applies to *all* the
presenters and the *all* content. The fact that you entitled the seminar
a "show" apparently attracted the types who do not ordinarily attend
seminars- probably wondering why no popcorn either- sheesh. I especially
enjoy the video series with bench demos- fast paced, interesting,
useful, and fun- no interruptions. I look forward to each and every one
of them.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <[email protected]>

probably wondering why no popcorn either

They put it all in the discrete transistors.

 

[Bob Stephens]

Paul,

All of the application presentations coming out of NS are excellent- I
give you five stars all the way- and this applies to *all* the
presenters and the *all* content. The fact that you entitled the seminar
a "show" apparently attracted the types who do not ordinarily attend
seminars- probably wondering why no popcorn either- sheesh. I especially
enjoy the video series with bench demos- fast paced, interesting,
useful, and fun- no interruptions. I look forward to each and every one
of them.

Umm.... Are we talking about the same seminar? "The Art of Analog Design"
with Bob Pease?
I attended the one in Los Angeles, Ca. in September 2003, and our
experiences couldn't be more
different.... popcorn noise notwithstanding.

Bob Stephens

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Umm.... Are we talking about the same seminar? "The Art of Analog Design"
with Bob Pease?
I attended the one in Los Angeles, Ca. in September 2003, and our
experiences couldn't be more
different.... popcorn noise notwithstanding.

Bob Stephens

It was some years ago when I signed up for an NS seminar, could not
attend, and they sent me a bill for $30- for NOT attending- there was no
charge if you attended. So watch that

 

[Bob Stephens]

I am a presenter with Bob at the show. A few people have complained
that they thought the whole show would be just Bob, all Bob. Think
about this-- he has to do 70 cities one workday after another with no
break except a weekend where he is far from home. He would have to
lecture 8 hours a day. This is impossible. As it is he lectures more
then any college professor on tour. He does about 4 half hour
segments-- two hours a day is all any presenter can take, believe me.

I respect Bob Pease, and appreciate the demands of the tour. However, I
still feel that NatSemi misrepresented the content of the Seminar.
A more honest description would have been "New Silicon from National
Semiconductor with introduction by Bob Pease"

He does about 4 half hour segments--

More like 10 minute segments in L.A.

As to marketing-- we are all application engineers, NOT marketing
types. Sure, we are going to talk about our chips-- whose do you
expect us to discuss? We try to teach the right way to apply our
chips and keep you from making mistakes. The things we teach almost
always apply to our competitor's chips too but we sure aren't going to
spend the million dollars on a seminar tour to put those parts up on
the screen (;^o)-

Sorry, I can't let you slide on this one. Granted I did not attend the
seminars in Sweden, so I can't speak to the content there. I did, however go
to the one in Los Angeles, Ca. in September, and the "applications
engineers" there responded to nearly every technical question with something
like " I'm actually not directly involved with this device, but can put you
in touch with a development engineer in that group"


Bob Stephens

 

[Steve Taylor]

More like 10 minute segments in L.A.

And Manchester UK.

Come on Paul - the timetable that was put on screen showed 15 minute
segments.

And WHY were you all so scared of pricing information ? The times it was
asked, you could see the speakers blanch. Its OK we won't hold you to
them - say "around 5 bucks" " around 10 bucks" - in X off quantity.
Don't expect an order for 10 million pieces without us checking though.....

Steve

 

[jmc]

I am a presenter with Bob at the show. A few people have complained
that they thought the whole show would be just Bob, all Bob. Think
about this-- he has to do 70 cities one workday after another with no
break except a weekend where he is far from home. He would have to
lecture 8 hours a day. This is impossible. As it is he lectures more
then any college professor on tour. He does about 4 half hour
segments-- two hours a day is all any presenter can take, believe me.
As to marketing-- we are all application engineers, NOT marketing
types. Sure, we are going to talk about our chips-- whose do you
expect us to discuss? We try to teach the right way to apply our
chips and keep you from making mistakes. The things we teach almost
always apply to our competitor's chips too but we sure aren't going to
spend the million dollars on a seminar tour to put those parts up on
the screen (;^o)-

If some of the material was "beneath" you I aplogise. It is very hard
to know the experiance of a general audiance. We see more and more
digital engineers being called on to do analog so we try to help those
poor less-experianced souls as well as the experianced engineers. I
will show the threads to Bob today (we are Lund Sweden on our way to
Stockholm tommorow). I also will make sure our management reads it--
most of the comments are positive, but I can tell you that I was
instructed to NOT make this a marketing pitch-- this is just
application engineers trying to help you do your job. (I am a little
sick of those white LED driver circuits too, BTW!)

Paul

The seminar was free as was the lunch so the content was spot on especially
considering that Bob was talking about stuff that really wasn't exactly in
National's interests. I'd sum it up as a well balanced *free* seminar that
made great use of the resources available. Of course, if it cost £100 things
would be completely different.
jmc

 

[red rover]

Fred, did you answer Bob's question?

Saying you once signed up for an NS seminar and
then didn't go wasn't a clear answer to me.
I hope your five star rating wasn't based on the
seminar before the seminar that you couldn't attend.

NS certainly had some of the best analog app. notes in
the old days. Their old 1984 Linear App. (about 3" thick) was
much sought after. But they seem to be losing ground in
recent decades.

Steve

 

[Dave VanHorn]

NS certainly had some of the best analog app. notes in
the old days. Their old 1984 Linear App. (about 3" thick) was
much sought after. But they seem to be losing ground in
recent decades.

I still have my copy!

Almost 20 years old, and still a valuable desk reference.
It sits not far from AofE.

 

[Keith R. Williams]

The seminar was free as was the lunch so the content was spot on especially
considering that Bob was talking about stuff that really wasn't exactly in
National's interests. I'd sum it up as a well balanced *free* seminar that
made great use of the resources available. Of course, if it cost £100 things
would be completely different.

Hmm, I just got an email advertising the "Bob Pease Show" net seminar,
but it didn't say anything about a free lunch. Where's my free lunch!

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Keith R. Williams

Hmm, I just got an email advertising the "Bob Pease Show" net seminar,
but it didn't say anything about a free lunch. Where's my free lunch!

TANSTAAFL.

 

[Richard Henry]

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Strangely, whenever I see the abbreviation (TANSTAAFL) ir takes me several
minutes to remember this.

 

[Steve]

Hmm, I just got an email advertising the "Bob Pease Show" net seminar,
but it didn't say anything about a free lunch. Where's my free lunch!

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Steve

 

[Steve]

Strangely, whenever I see the abbreviation (TANSTAAFL) ir takes me several
minutes to remember this.

Inadequate Heinlein intake in your youth perhaps. Or possibly excessive
intake (but not of free lunches) in mine...

Steve

 

[Dave VanHorn]

Inadequate Heinlein intake in your youth perhaps. Or possibly excessive
intake (but not of free lunches) in mine...

Steve

Isn't that Niven?

 

[Ian Buckner]

Isn't that Niven?

No, Heinlein. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" if I recall correctly.

Regards
Ian

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ian Buckner

No, Heinlein. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" if I recall correctly.

Niven's is 'TANJ' - There Ain't No Justice'.

 

[Dave VanHorn]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ian Buckner


Niven's is 'TANJ' - There Ain't No Justice'.

Ah, It's been too long.. I still want to see FootFall made into a
miniseries. The SF channel could do it nicely!