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Friday
Hi All!
I haven't had time to visit the group much lately, but I'm still here,
and still preparing for TEOTWAWKI...
.... as well as more practical, short-term survival issues, like the
all-too-frequent power outages here during blizzards and ice storms in
recent years (global cooling?).
I live in Northern NY State, where we seem to have a 2-6 day power
outage at least once every year or two, usually during the coldest part
of winter.
I picked up a Generac, industrial generator, 5kw (sustained), powered
by a 10hp Robin gasoline engine. I'm told it will run for 12-14 hours
straight on one 5-gallon tank of gas and an oil change. I keep it in a
shed about 10 feet from my house. Plenty of gas, oil, and stablizer on
hand.
The generator has four, breaker-backed outlets: two 110's and two
220's, one a NEMA L6-30 amp, same as the clothes dryer recepticle I
installed in my basement a few years back.
My housed is heated with a boiler and baseboard radiators. Hot water
and stove are courtesy of natural gas. In the past, I've heated the
house with the stove-top (oven won't light without power to the
sensor), and I _REALLY_ don't like the idea of an open flame in my
kitchen for several days in a row, especially while sleeping.
The cost of having a professional panel-box job done to meet code is
_OUT_ of the question. I don't have the $$$ and I only need once every
year or two -and only if the power is out for more than 5-6 hours.
I've been reading extensively about backfeeding to the 220-volt
recepticle and at least one person in every forum says "NEVER do it!
You'll kill youself, and/or a lineman, blow up your generator, burn
your house down, catch scabies, etc.!"
But SERIOUSLY... as long as I don't forget to open the main breaker
before hooking up to the generator and disconnecting the generator
before closing the main breaker (and I WON'T forget), what are the real
dangers to backfeeding???
I've talked to a few people who've done this all their lives without
incident. Any professionals out there who can tell me the truth
without getting hysterical???
Here's my plan...
When the grid goes off:
1) Build a 40' cord (10/3 Romex) with male NEMA L6-30s (maybe 50s) at
each end.
2) Throw (open) main
3) Throw (open) all other breakers
4) Fire up generator and let run for 5 minutes to stablize current
5) Plug in cord, first to house recepticle, then to generator.
6) Close 220 breaker on main box
7) Close breaker to furnace circuit (circulation pump/thermostat),
refrigerator, and circuits to flourescent lights in kitchen and bath
8) Run an extension cord into the house from the 110 outlets on the
generator to power individual appliances one or two at a time as needed
(TV, computer, radio, etc. - NO Microwave)
When the grid comes back up:
1) Open 220 breaker
2) Turn off generator
3) unplug cords to generator at both ends
4) Close main breaker
I honestly don't see how I can feed power back into the grid by
mistake, unless, like I said, I forget to open the main- which I WILL
NOT do. I live alone, so there's no danger of anyone else F***ing
things up.
What is the REAL danger in doing this?
* Overheating the panel???
* Main breaker failure???? (But HOW????)
Thanks for any REALISTIC advice.
Cheers,
Friday
PS: Like I said, there's not enough $$$ for a professional installation.
I suppose I could pull the meter, but that would probably p*ss off the
power company.
--
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"The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will
be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.
If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
of death to the public liberty. What country before ever existed a century & a
half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their
rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit
of resistance? Let them take arms... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"
-- Thomas Jefferson
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I haven't had time to visit the group much lately, but I'm still here,
and still preparing for TEOTWAWKI...
.... as well as more practical, short-term survival issues, like the
all-too-frequent power outages here during blizzards and ice storms in
recent years (global cooling?).
I live in Northern NY State, where we seem to have a 2-6 day power
outage at least once every year or two, usually during the coldest part
of winter.
I picked up a Generac, industrial generator, 5kw (sustained), powered
by a 10hp Robin gasoline engine. I'm told it will run for 12-14 hours
straight on one 5-gallon tank of gas and an oil change. I keep it in a
shed about 10 feet from my house. Plenty of gas, oil, and stablizer on
hand.
The generator has four, breaker-backed outlets: two 110's and two
220's, one a NEMA L6-30 amp, same as the clothes dryer recepticle I
installed in my basement a few years back.
My housed is heated with a boiler and baseboard radiators. Hot water
and stove are courtesy of natural gas. In the past, I've heated the
house with the stove-top (oven won't light without power to the
sensor), and I _REALLY_ don't like the idea of an open flame in my
kitchen for several days in a row, especially while sleeping.
The cost of having a professional panel-box job done to meet code is
_OUT_ of the question. I don't have the $$$ and I only need once every
year or two -and only if the power is out for more than 5-6 hours.
I've been reading extensively about backfeeding to the 220-volt
recepticle and at least one person in every forum says "NEVER do it!
You'll kill youself, and/or a lineman, blow up your generator, burn
your house down, catch scabies, etc.!"
But SERIOUSLY... as long as I don't forget to open the main breaker
before hooking up to the generator and disconnecting the generator
before closing the main breaker (and I WON'T forget), what are the real
dangers to backfeeding???
I've talked to a few people who've done this all their lives without
incident. Any professionals out there who can tell me the truth
without getting hysterical???
Here's my plan...
When the grid goes off:
1) Build a 40' cord (10/3 Romex) with male NEMA L6-30s (maybe 50s) at
each end.
2) Throw (open) main
3) Throw (open) all other breakers
4) Fire up generator and let run for 5 minutes to stablize current
5) Plug in cord, first to house recepticle, then to generator.
6) Close 220 breaker on main box
7) Close breaker to furnace circuit (circulation pump/thermostat),
refrigerator, and circuits to flourescent lights in kitchen and bath
8) Run an extension cord into the house from the 110 outlets on the
generator to power individual appliances one or two at a time as needed
(TV, computer, radio, etc. - NO Microwave)
When the grid comes back up:
1) Open 220 breaker
2) Turn off generator
3) unplug cords to generator at both ends
4) Close main breaker
I honestly don't see how I can feed power back into the grid by
mistake, unless, like I said, I forget to open the main- which I WILL
NOT do. I live alone, so there's no danger of anyone else F***ing
things up.
What is the REAL danger in doing this?
* Overheating the panel???
* Main breaker failure???? (But HOW????)
Thanks for any REALISTIC advice.
Cheers,
Friday
PS: Like I said, there's not enough $$$ for a professional installation.
I suppose I could pull the meter, but that would probably p*ss off the
power company.
--
#####################################
"The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will
be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.
If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
of death to the public liberty. What country before ever existed a century & a
half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their
rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit
of resistance? Let them take arms... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"
-- Thomas Jefferson
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