Attorney generals trying to shut down usenet?

[krw]

At least then we won't have to listen to the same old Rebublican lies.

You haven't seen lies yet. Osama will be a beaut!

 

[JosephKK]

Well you are a republic, not a democracy (these days),
but
http://news.individual.de/
full access, university based
10€ a year, not month, no binaries
Absolutely rock solid performance, maybe 1 hour in the last year
without access


martin

That's not all, it is a Big-8 newsgroup, but it may be topic
sensitive.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Not "censorship" at all. They no longer see carrying the other
groups to be in their interest (i.e. "business decision").


So what? They don't have a gun to his head.

You don't get it. Most cell providers get one to sign a one or two year
contract with the purchase of the phone.

I merely stated that he has a case to nullify the contract without a
penalty being legally imposed.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

You haven't seen lies yet. Osama will be a beaut!

Is this an "islamic slip"? errr... Freudian slip? tee hee hee...

Did you not mean "Obama"?

 

[krw]

Is this an "islamic slip"? errr... Freudian slip? tee hee hee...

No, a Teddy. ;-)

Did you not mean "Obama"?

No, I meant to write "Osama", but same guy.

 

[krw]

You don't get it. Most cell providers get one to sign a one or two year
contract with the purchase of the phone.

You're right. I don't get it. "It" being my Usenet (or any
Interned, for that matter) connection via my cell phone.

I merely stated that he has a case to nullify the contract without a
penalty being legally imposed.

Any contract that states that it includes those specific NGs, sure.
Somehow I doubt...

 

[Joerg]

You do not have to honor any contract either. This is a valid grievance
against what you thought you were buying when you signed on. If this
major chunk of your service get curtailed, you have a right to curtail
your account, and not be held liable for a contractual breech.

In other words, you can claim that they breeched the contract by making
a service change that was significant enough to render the service of no
use to you.

People have tried that before and it's very hard to get your rights
honored. But often (as in my case) they have a local monopoly. Sure you
can swap ISP and still use Missy Bell's line but then they'll sock it to
you because it's their lines.

 

[Mark Zenier]

That would be the end of it for me since it would could ban all foreign
language groups that start with their country domain. Time to look for a
new ISP.

You don't need to get a new ISP, unless you feel the need to protest.
You can subscribe to a third party NSP, which will give you an account
name and password that you put into your newsreader/browser and access
is pretty much the same. Most news access is now through third party
NSPs, but they use your IP address (and check with an authorization
server at your ISP) to determine whether you need to go through the
verification process or not.

Mark Zenier [email protected]
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

 

[Joerg]

No Cable ISP?

Yes, but prohibitively expensive if you don't also by their bundle.

 

[Martin Griffith]

Yes, but prohibitively expensive if you don't also by their bundle.

"Land of the Free" ?

Now who used to say that?


martin

 

[Joerg]

"Land of the Free" ?

Now who used to say that?

It is a free country, you don't have to subscribe to any of that.

The problem is the usual: A company gets monopoly right, oversight is,
ahem, sub-optimal and then they can get away with a lot of things.
Including some of your money ...

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

"Land of the Free" ?

Now who used to say that?

It refers to Liberty, not stuff that you don't have to pay for. Everything
has a price, and the price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance; it's too bad
that everbody seems to have forgotten what Freedom was. )-;

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Phat Bytestard]

Yes, but prohibitively expensive if you don't also by their bundle.

Lemmie guess... you hate cable too, so you have DirectTardTV.

 

[Joerg]

Lemmie guess... you hate cable too, so you have DirectTardTV.

No, antenna.

 

[Phat Bytestard]

No, antenna.

Yeah, well... one gets what one pays for.

I watched billiards today. TV is a bigger part of my life than it
apparently is in yours, and that is why I pay for cable services.

 

[Joerg]

Yeah, well... one gets what one pays for.

I watched billiards today. TV is a bigger part of my life than it
apparently is in yours, and that is why I pay for cable services.

Once the switch to DTV is complete it'll be even less important because
this stuff falls apart under multipath conditions. As I had predicted.
Oh well.

 

[JosephKK]

You don't need to get a new ISP, unless you feel the need to protest.
You can subscribe to a third party NSP, which will give you an account
name and password that you put into your newsreader/browser and access
is pretty much the same. Most news access is now through third party
NSPs, but they use your IP address (and check with an authorization
server at your ISP) to determine whether you need to go through the
verification process or not.

Mark Zenier [email protected]
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

The NSPs only look to the ISP for authorization for accounts through
the ISP. For direct accounts you give userid/password seperately.