Ademco Vista-15 Install Manual

[Computer Prog]

I recently purchased a new construction home and I got an Ademco Vista-15
Alarm System. I got a Vista-15/Vista-15CN user manual but I did not get an
installation or setup manual. I would like to add some options to my alarm
and I wanted to take a look at the installation manual to see how things
are supposed to be wired. I also wanted to see what features I can program
into the unit. Is there a way I can get a hold of the installation manual?

 

[Frank Olson]

I recently purchased a new construction home and I got an Ademco Vista-15
Alarm System. I got a Vista-15/Vista-15CN user manual but I did not get an
installation or setup manual. I would like to add some options to my alarm
and I wanted to take a look at the installation manual to see how things
are supposed to be wired. I also wanted to see what features I can program
into the unit. Is there a way I can get a hold of the installation manual?

Contact Jim Rojas at http://www.tech-man.com

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

 

[Robert L Bass]

I recently purchased a new construction home and I got an Ademco Vista-15

Alarm System. I got a Vista-15/Vista-15CN user manual but I did not get an
installation or setup manual. I would like to add some options to my alarm
and I wanted to take a look at the installation manual to see how things
are supposed to be wired. I also wanted to see what features I can program
into the unit. Is there a way I can get a hold of the installation manual?

Click this link.
http://library.ademconet.com/MyWebTech/MyWebTech.aspx?an=fp&pn=VISTA-15PCN
Download whatever manuals you need.

If you need help, contact me privately and I'll assist you.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Mark Leuck]

You aren't going to provide the password this time? How unusual

 

[alarman]

You aren't going to provide the password this time? How unusual

Ademco spank.
js

 

[Crash Gordon]

Installation/programming manuals are hardly ever given to the end user...for
good reasons too - they're written in Alarmglish and one mistake in
programming and you may render the panel totally useless.



|I recently purchased a new construction home and I got an Ademco Vista-15
| Alarm System. I got a Vista-15/Vista-15CN user manual but I did not get
an
| installation or setup manual. I would like to add some options to my
alarm
| and I wanted to take a look at the installation manual to see how things
| are supposed to be wired. I also wanted to see what features I can
program
| into the unit. Is there a way I can get a hold of the installation
manual?

 

[Robert L Bass]

Installation/programming manuals are hardly ever

given to the end user...for good reasons too - they're
written in Alarmglish and one mistake in programming
and you may render the panel totally useless.

That's one of the reasons. The other is that without the manual
the client will need the installer for any changes or additions
the system may require in future.

I always left the manuals, along with any drawings and job notes
in a large, plastic envelop inside the control panel cabinet.
This made it easy to service since the proper manual for the
particular panel in use was always on site. Occasionally
manufacturers issue new versions of the manuals with version
upgrades of the panels. If the original manual is kept on
premises the service technician doesn't have to concern himself
with searching the truck for the right paperwork.

There is a similar divergence of opinion regarding disclosure of
the panel programming access code. I like to keep that in the
panel as well. If the client wanted to know the code, I'd
explain the possible consequences of programming errors and then
give it to him.

Most customers who purchase installed systems don't want to
program the systems themselves. Some realize, however, that
without that code they are subject to the whim of the installing
company. Giving them full access to the panel helps to alleviate
any concerns they may have, albeit at the expense of the alarm
company's own concerns. :^)

For clarity's sake, I'm not saying that Crash is doing something
wrong -- only that we do things differently.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Doug L]

Yes you do, Crash installs and services alarm systems, all you do is yap
about it

Doug L

 

[grabbitt]

That's one of the reasons. The other is that without the manual
the client will need the installer for any changes or additions
the system may require in future.

I always left the manuals, along with any drawings and job notes
in a large, plastic envelop inside the control panel cabinet.
This made it easy to service since the proper manual for the
particular panel in use was always on site. Occasionally
manufacturers issue new versions of the manuals with version
upgrades of the panels. If the original manual is kept on
premises the service technician doesn't have to concern himself
with searching the truck for the right paperwork.

I would not recommend stuffing lots of paper inside an alarm panel.
Potential fire hazard. Just what an unsuspecting customer needs, lots of
flammable material stuffed inside an electric device cabinet that is
generating heat. WOW! Good thing you are not in the trade! You really
should think before posting some of this stuff to more unsuspecting diy vict
err clients.

 

[Norm Mugford]

Mr. BAss wrote:

"I always left the manuals, along with any drawings and job notes
in a large, plastic envelop inside the control panel cabinet".

"There is a similar divergence of opinion regarding disclosure of
the panel programming access code. I like to keep that in the
panel as well".

Those comments are why you are no longer in the business Mr. BAss!

The panel box is not a place to store documents. It is a UL
enclosure, not to be used for storage or splices or anything
other than to house the alarm panel and its components.

Also, leaving the programming code in the panel is another
reason you're out of business.....stupidity and your constant lies.....

Norm Mugford

That's one of the reasons. The other is that without the manual
the client will need the installer for any changes or additions
the system may require in future.

I always left the manuals, along with any drawings and job notes
in a large, plastic envelop inside the control panel cabinet.
This made it easy to service since the proper manual for the
particular panel in use was always on site. Occasionally
manufacturers issue new versions of the manuals with version
upgrades of the panels. If the original manual is kept on
premises the service technician doesn't have to concern himself
with searching the truck for the right paperwork.

There is a similar divergence of opinion regarding disclosure of
the panel programming access code. I like to keep that in the
panel as well. If the client wanted to know the code, I'd
explain the possible consequences of programming errors and then
give it to him.

Most customers who purchase installed systems don't want to
program the systems themselves. Some realize, however, that
without that code they are subject to the whim of the installing
company. Giving them full access to the panel helps to alleviate
any concerns they may have, albeit at the expense of the alarm
company's own concerns. :^)

For clarity's sake, I'm not saying that Crash is doing something
wrong -- only that we do things differently.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

[Robert L Bass]

I would not recommend stuffing lots of paper inside

an alarm panel...

You don't "stuff" paper inside the alarm panel. You place it
neatly inside the plastic envelop it came in.

Potential fire hazard...

Not a chance. The panel temperature never come close that
required to ignite paper. If your panels are that hot inside you
are doing something terribly wrong. Then again, perhaps you are.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[grabbitt]

You don't "stuff" paper inside the alarm panel. You place it
neatly inside the plastic envelop it came in.


Not a chance. The panel temperature never come close that
required to ignite paper. If your panels are that hot inside you
are doing something terribly wrong. Then again, perhaps you are.

tell that to RHC. I recall his story of a panel he installed catching on
fire. Are you saying he does inferior installations? Good thing he didn't
have it stuffed with paper like you used to do yours.

 

[Robert L Bass]

Not a chance. The panel temperature never come close that

tell that to RHC...

Hmm. I use USENET as part of my marketing so it's natural for
me to be online during the day. The fact that you're posting at
this hour indicates you're out of work.

Best of luck finding a job.


--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Bob Worthy]

in message

Hmm. I use USENET as part of my marketing so it's natural for
me to be online during the day. The fact that you're posting at
this hour indicates you're out of work.

I am posting at this hour. Doesn't mean I am out of work? It is called
multi-tasking.

Best of luck finding a job.

And to you finding a real job. But then again, I am not sure you can with
your past.

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burger Alert
The Online DIDDLY Store
http://www.BassBurger Alert.com

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.

As evidenced by RBL and his 14,000 newly found friends.

 

[Crash Gordon]

This is entirely possible and have seen several of my panels over the years
come very close to to igniting from neglected batteries. I never leave
anything in the box.


|
| | >> Installation/programming manuals are hardly ever
| >> given to the end user...for good reasons too - they're
| >> written in Alarmglish and one mistake in programming
| >> and you may render the panel totally useless.
| >
| > That's one of the reasons. The other is that without the manual
| > the client will need the installer for any changes or additions
| > the system may require in future.
| >
| > I always left the manuals, along with any drawings and job notes
| > in a large, plastic envelop inside the control panel cabinet.
| > This made it easy to service since the proper manual for the
| > particular panel in use was always on site. Occasionally
| > manufacturers issue new versions of the manuals with version
| > upgrades of the panels. If the original manual is kept on
| > premises the service technician doesn't have to concern himself
| > with searching the truck for the right paperwork.
|
|
| I would not recommend stuffing lots of paper inside an alarm panel.
| Potential fire hazard. Just what an unsuspecting customer needs, lots of
| flammable material stuffed inside an electric device cabinet that is
| generating heat. WOW! Good thing you are not in the trade! You really
| should think before posting some of this stuff to more unsuspecting diy
vict
| err clients.
|
|

 

[Mark Leuck]

You don't "stuff" paper inside the alarm panel. You place it
neatly inside the plastic envelop it came in.


Not a chance. The panel temperature never come close that
required to ignite paper. If your panels are that hot inside you
are doing something terribly wrong. Then again, perhaps you are.

Normally it shouldn't however in the event of a lightning strike and as I
recall Mr Campbell had one catch fire on its own

 

[Robert L Bass]

This is entirely possible and have seen several of my

panels over the years come very close to to igniting
from neglected batteries. I never leave anything in
the box.

That's surprising, Crash. In the 24 years I installed for a
living it never happened to me. I've never even seen an alarm
battery get more than uncomfortably hot.

Paper ignites at about 450º Fahrenheit (230ºC). That's hot
enough to roast a turkey. If your control panel cabinet reaches
that temperature, (1) something is drastically wrong; and (2)
your control panel is no longer functioning.

I don't doubt your panel got hot enough to make it seem as though
it was ready to ignite, but reality is they just don't get that
hot, even in Waco.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Mr.Double-sided Tape]

Now we are at 24? The numbers change so much we could use your posts to
replace the track handle for the daily number.

 

[grabbitt]

That's surprising, Crash. In the 24 years I installed for a
living it never happened to me. I've never even seen an alarm
battery get more than uncomfortably hot.

Paper ignites at about 450º Fahrenheit (230ºC). That's hot
enough to roast a turkey. If your control panel cabinet reaches
that temperature, (1) something is drastically wrong; and (2)
your control panel is no longer functioning.

I don't doubt your panel got hot enough to make it seem as though
it was ready to ignite, but reality is they just don't get that

you can justify your stuffing electric device cabinets with paper any way
you want but most of us are not selling off our accounts and moving out of
the country. We are sticking around to stand behind our work and therefore
we choose not to stuff panel boxes with paper because we don't want ANY
chance of mishap causing damage to those that we have pledged to protect.
Imagine what could have happened with RHC if his panel had been stuffed full
of paper. May have started the whole building on fire and could have caused
bodily injury or death to one of his friends or customers, not to mention
the financial damages. You can justify it anyway you want but I for one
will never put manuals and other papers in a electric cabinet. And if you
were to THINK about it for 1 minute and be HONEST you would not recommend it
to the whole world via Usenet.

 

[alarman]

I've never even seen an alarm
battery get more than uncomfortably hot.

That statement speaks volumes.
js