You guys are gonna get a kick out of this

[ngdbud]

Today in my high school auto class, I learned the propper way to
connect batteries in series.

----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------
\
\
\
\
\
\
----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------

There it is; the right way. Earlier this year I learned what kinda
idiots wrote my text. It's a good thing my trusty old teacher was there
to straighten things out. An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000
volts because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.
They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

I would like to take this oppertunity to thank the teachers union for
requireing less testing and making tenure more easily atainable. It
makes me feel good to know that my teachers are trusted enough to keep
up to date. I would also like say kudos to the public school system.
I'm glad they require twelve years of quality education to work out the
kinks in every thing I thought I knew. Well, thats all for now, I'll
keep everybody updated on the RIGHT way to do things.

 

[Don Klipstein]

Earlier this year I learned what kinda
idiots wrote my text. It's a good thing my trusty old teacher was there
to straighten things out. An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000
volts because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.
They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

I would like to take this oppertunity to thank the teachers union for
requireing less testing and making tenure more easily atainable. It
makes me feel good to know that my teachers are trusted enough to keep
up to date. I would also like say kudos to the public school system.
I'm glad they require twelve years of quality education to work out the
kinks in every thing I thought I knew. Well, thats all for now, I'll
keep everybody updated on the RIGHT way to do things.

Automotive ignition coils actually deliver somewhere around 30,000
volts. Voltage alone does not melt wires - not even if continuous -
check out solid state Tesla coils as an example of continuous operation
with even higher voltage and wire thinner than most wires that can be
found in a car. And much of the wiring in a car is not affected by
the ignition coil. Is your "trusty old" teacher actually one of the ones
that you would rather complain about? Or do you merely require more
teaching?

And 30,000 kilovolts is 30 million volts - in the ballpark of lightning.
30,000 millivolts is something rarely stated since that is 30 volts.

- Don Klipstein (Jr) ([email protected])

 

[Bob]

Today in my high school auto class, I learned the propper way to
connect batteries in series.

There it is; the right way. Earlier this year I learned what kinda
idiots wrote my text. It's a good thing my trusty old teacher was there
to straighten things out. An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000
volts because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.
They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

I would like to take this oppertunity to thank the teachers union for
requireing less testing and making tenure more easily atainable. It
makes me feel good to know that my teachers are trusted enough to keep
up to date. I would also like say kudos to the public school system.
I'm glad they require twelve years of quality education to work out the
kinks in every thing I thought I knew. Well, thats all for now, I'll
keep everybody updated on the RIGHT way to do things.

Are you just another lonely troll looking for attention? If not, you need to
be careful whom you call an idiot. Check your facts and check your spelling.
You'll learn quite a bit, that way.

Bob

 

[ngdbud]

I made sure I checked my facts right before I posted it. I know a milli
means one thousandth and kilo means one thousand. My auto teacher is
the one that told me otherwise. In that diagram, he connected the
batteries in series and then shorted the terminals. It takes one
section of wire to hook up batteries in series, not three (assuming the
final negative and positive terminals are left bare). And as for my
spelling, it's spending almost 7 hours a day, 9 months a year with
teachers like that and the students they produce that make me loose all
sense of caring. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that
we all have our areas we do a little better in, and a teacher shouldn't
be allowed to teach an area they don't know like the back of their
hand.

P.S. Checked my spelling

 

[techie_alison]

I made sure I checked my facts right before I posted it. I know a milli

P.S. Checked my spelling

He's right as well you know, about national curriculum teaching being
totally weird and incorrect.

When at university I had a quite public criticising argument with one of
these part-time computer science lecturers who insisted the code for my
encryption research be in high level. Couldn't accept it being written in
assembly language/machine code so I did it low level anyway. Got a low
grade too. He was well woooly, and didn't have a clue either. Surprised he
didn't want it written in Visual Basic or Pascal or something..

 

[Rich Grise]

I made sure I checked my facts right before I posted it. I know a milli
means one thousandth and kilo means one thousand. My auto teacher is
the one that told me otherwise. In that diagram, he connected the
batteries in series and then shorted the terminals. It takes one
section of wire to hook up batteries in series, not three (assuming the
final negative and positive terminals are left bare). And as for my
spelling, it's spending almost 7 hours a day, 9 months a year with
teachers like that and the students they produce that make me loose all ^^^^^
sense of caring. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that
we all have our areas we do a little better in, and a teacher shouldn't
be allowed to teach an area they don't know like the back of their
hand.

P.S. Checked my spelling

Yeah, but not "is this the right word?" ;-)

http://www.google.com/search?q=define:loose
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:lose

Cheers!
Rich

 

[John Larkin]

I made sure I checked my facts right before I posted it. I know a milli
means one thousandth and kilo means one thousand. My auto teacher is
the one that told me otherwise. In that diagram, he connected the
batteries in series and then shorted the terminals. It takes one
section of wire to hook up batteries in series, not three (assuming the
final negative and positive terminals are left bare). And as for my
spelling, it's spending almost 7 hours a day, 9 months a year with
teachers like that and the students they produce that make me loose all
sense of caring. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that
we all have our areas we do a little better in, and a teacher shouldn't
be allowed to teach an area they don't know like the back of their
hand.

P.S. Checked my spelling

You don't need a science degree to teach science, you need a teaching
degree. That's logical, isn't it?

John

 

[ngdbud]

I personally think both should be required and pay should be raised.
They have to teach the future busieness owners of America. It should be
they're job to teach and mine to learn. If I hadn't been such a nerd I
would be sitting here believeing that car ignition coils put out 30,000
millivolts and that if you hook up a three hundred amp starter motor to
a five hundred cold cranking amp battery, I would have two hundered
amps left in the battery after the 2 seconds of use it takes to start
an engine. I don't think my dear auto teacher even knows what an amp
hour is. thats just the electronics though, he can get any engine
running quicker than anyone else I've seen and thats what counts as an
auto teacher, not the terminology.

 

[Jasen Betts]

Today in my high school auto class, I learned the propper way to
connect batteries in series.

----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------
\
\
\
\
\
\
----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------

do us all a favour and use a fixed pitch font for thes diagrams, done any
other way they give unpredictable results on other peoples computer screens,

There it is; the right way.

except batteries don't have a "GND" terminal

Earlier this year I learned what kinda
idiots wrote my text. It's a good thing my trusty old teacher was there
to straighten things out. An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000
volts because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.
They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

30,000V is about right but it only goes onto the spark plug (and
distributor) wires. that's why these wire have much thicker insulation.

the wiring between the coil and the points (or electronic ignition module)
gets maybe 300V (pulses, not full-time, if you don't believe me stick your finger
on the terminal when the motor's running)

Bye.
Jasen

 

[tombiasi]

Today in my high school auto class, I learned the propper way to
connect batteries in series.

----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------
\
\
\
\
\
\
----------------+
I /I
I / I
I / I
I / I
I / I
GND I
------------------

There it is; the right way. Earlier this year I learned what kinda
idiots wrote my text. It's a good thing my trusty old teacher was there
to straighten things out. An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000
volts because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.
They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

I would like to take this oppertunity to thank the teachers union for
requireing less testing and making tenure more easily atainable. It
makes me feel good to know that my teachers are trusted enough to keep
up to date. I would also like say kudos to the public school system.
I'm glad they require twelve years of quality education to work out the
kinks in every thing I thought I knew. Well, thats all for now, I'll
keep everybody updated on the RIGHT way to do things.

You need to escalate this issue to an administrator.
What you need to do is see your principal. Explain why you believe your
instructor is not qualified to conduct your shop sessions.
If you have accurately portrayed what has taken place then your safety and
the safety of your fellow students is at risk.
It is almost June, has this instructor been in charge all year?
Tom

 

[Pooh Bear]

An ignition coil couldn't give out 30,000 volts

Oh yes it can !

because that would be enough to melt all the wiring in the car.

*Volts* don't melt wiring, it's the *Amps* that do !

They meant to say 30,000 milli or kilo volts, It doesn't matter which,
just not volts.

No they didn't. You need to learn some basics about electricity before making
such daft statements.

Graham

 

[ngdbud]

This is coming from the mouth of my teacher. I would never make sucha
bold statment before making sure I was right. I knew these things but
somehow my qualified auto instructor not only didn't know them but
taught them that way. Public schooling sucks.

 

[Pooh Bear]

This is coming from the mouth of my teacher.

That's worrying. Especially not knowing that it's amps that burns stuff up.

I would never make sucha
bold statment before making sure I was right. I knew these things but
somehow my qualified auto instructor not only didn't know them but
taught them that way. Public schooling sucks.

Your experience of it certainly isn't great in this regard.

Graham

 

[Jamie]

This is coming from the mouth of my teacher. I would never make sucha
bold statment before making sure I was right. I knew these things but
somehow my qualified auto instructor not only didn't know them but
taught them that way. Public schooling sucks.

i do remember the original post on this thread. i have to tell you
that you should listen more to your instructor. he is much more
correct than you think.
with that i am not going to get into it any
deeper.