Why is electronics so complicated?

[TheGlimmerMan]

AlwaysWrong! Even when you don't have to be.

John

You're an idiot. You sound like you do not even really know what "silk
screen printing" is.

I'd bet that is your problem.

I can illustrate for you. Give us your definition, and I can tell you
what is wrong with your bent brain.

 

[tm]

-- snip --


While we're on this subject, why don't women (and men, for that matter)
come with instruction manuals?

Why don't my elected officials pay their own way, so I don't have to pay
taxes?

For that matter, why doesn't God just rain manna down from heaven, so none
of us has to do anything?

Why do I have to learn to read?

Why, if China attacks the US, will my sons get drafted?

Why isn't electricity free?

Why do my joints ache in the winter (and summer).

Etc.

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Because you're not a democrat?

 

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TheGlimmerMan wrote:
It's cheaper. Burning a brownish lettering into a black plastic chip
costs less than silk screen printing.

Chips were NEVER "silk screen printed". Not ever... not once.


I've seen it done, in a factory. But there is no paste and screeding,
it's blasted through. All it made was a faint hiss, and then another for
cleaning the screen.

[...]

That is NOT "silk screen printing".

That is spray over stencil.

ROTFL! AlwaysWrong, you're a RIOT!

I find it amusing when a dopey fucktard takes a known acronym and
twists it so blatantly that it shows his utter stupidity before even a
word is spoken. You are one such dopey fucktard.

Spray shot through a screen is STENCIL printing., whether the screen
has a mesh or not. The media is sprayed.

SILK SCREEN printing is where the print media is forced through a
masked screen directly onto the target surface. The media is wiped.

The mask is a SILK SCREEN, AlwaysWrong. It IS screen printing.

The riot here is that you actually think you had a proper reason to be
laughing, much less doing so while rolling on the floor.

I think your mental age has been progressing backward for about the
last nine years now. You lose three years as each new year passes.

A couple more years and you will be posting mere babbling... wait!
Too late!

AlwaysWrong is so wrong, *always*.

 

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That must be why we have hundreds of spares on hand (cycling through
the system) for our products. And yes, they are main mission flight line
equipment.

Where the **** do you think the term "Repair Depot" comes from?

Talk about always wrong. You've been spouting off while looking in a
mirror for years now! That dumb crack ranks up in your top ten most
stupid claims LIST.

The only thing in this thread that is a "onesie" is the count of
neurons you have between your ears that actually fire correctly.

Now, go look in the mirror, right as you come back and claim that I am
wrong again.

Aircraft carriers purchase spares in TENsies. And we are talking about
quarter mil pieces too.

AlwaysWrong is *ALWAYS* wrong. Look up the history of the F-16 contract
sometime, DimBub. ...if you can read.

 

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JL > Only four fecal references in five
JL > paragraphs? Are you going straight
JL > or something?

Be careful about assessing Archie! He hates that!

How can you tell?

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

I've silk-screened rack panels myself. We still routinely have panels
screened. ICs were commonly silk screened before laser marking got
popular.

No, they were not. That was NOT the method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_screen

Oh boy, Johnny knows how to hunt, cut, AND paste! Amazing!

Actual semiconductors have been manufactured by silk screening.
Hybrids still are.

Completely different animal, dumbass.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

You've got to be smarter than the dial tone.

That rules you AND Marlow out.

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:32:49 -0800, TheGlimmerMan

TheGlimmerMan wrote:
It's cheaper. Burning a brownish lettering into a black plastic chip
costs less than silk screen printing.

Chips were NEVER "silk screen printed". Not ever... not once.


I've seen it done, in a factory. But there is no paste and screeding,
it's blasted through. All it made was a faint hiss, and then another for
cleaning the screen.

[...]

That is NOT "silk screen printing".

That is spray over stencil.

ROTFL! AlwaysWrong, you're a RIOT!

I find it amusing when a dopey fucktard takes a known acronym and
twists it so blatantly that it shows his utter stupidity before even a
word is spoken. You are one such dopey fucktard.

Spray shot through a screen is STENCIL printing., whether the screen
has a mesh or not. The media is sprayed.

SILK SCREEN printing is where the print media is forced through a
masked screen directly onto the target surface. The media is wiped.

The mask is a SILK SCREEN, AlwaysWrong. It IS screen printing.

No, it isn't. If it is used to spray through (which it is, it is a
stencil.

Tell the other idiot that is why the eights have filled centers.

And chips were stamped. Silk screens and lot codes do not get along
well.

AlwaysWrong is so wrong, *always*.

You're the wrong one, mirror boy.

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

AlwaysWrong is *ALWAYS* wrong. Look up the history of the F-16 contract
sometime, DimBub. ...if you can read.

They carry and use our gear. They have banks of spares in their
hangars, and trade out right on the flight line for new and send the fail
to us for repair all the time from all over the world.

Our gear is on all currently active aircraft in use by all allies in
all theaters. That includes ALL F-16s. Spares abound of ANY critical
subsystem, and the birds are made such that most of those are modular and
can be directly traded out en mass , thus moving the repair point to
another time and or place, keeping the bird flight ready by the
utilization of the new, run ready spare.

You lose... again and again and again and again ... as usual.

 

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:39:49 -0600, "[email protected]"

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:32:49 -0800, TheGlimmerMan

TheGlimmerMan wrote:
It's cheaper. Burning a brownish lettering into a black plastic chip
costs less than silk screen printing.

Chips were NEVER "silk screen printed". Not ever... not once.


I've seen it done, in a factory. But there is no paste and screeding,
it's blasted through. All it made was a faint hiss, and then another for
cleaning the screen.

[...]

That is NOT "silk screen printing".

That is spray over stencil.

ROTFL! AlwaysWrong, you're a RIOT!


I find it amusing when a dopey fucktard takes a known acronym and
twists it so blatantly that it shows his utter stupidity before even a
word is spoken. You are one such dopey fucktard.

Spray shot through a screen is STENCIL printing., whether the screen
has a mesh or not. The media is sprayed.

SILK SCREEN printing is where the print media is forced through a
masked screen directly onto the target surface. The media is wiped.

The mask is a SILK SCREEN, AlwaysWrong. It IS screen printing.

No, it isn't. If it is used to spray through (which it is, it is a
stencil.

Tell the other idiot that is why the eights have filled centers.

And chips were stamped. Silk screens and lot codes do not get along
well.

AlwaysWrong always has to prove how wrong he can be.

You're the wrong one, mirror boy.

Wrong again, AlwaysWrong.

 

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They carry and use our gear. They have banks of spares in their
hangars, and trade out right on the flight line for new and send the fail
to us for repair all the time from all over the world.

Our gear is on all currently active aircraft in use by all allies in
all theaters. That includes ALL F-16s. Spares abound of ANY critical
subsystem, and the birds are made such that most of those are modular and
can be directly traded out en mass , thus moving the repair point to
another time and or place, keeping the bird flight ready by the
utilization of the new, run ready spare.

You lose... again and again and again and again ... as usual.

AlwaysWrong, is *SURPRISE* wrong. *Always*.

 

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JL > Only four fecal references in five
JL > paragraphs? Are you going straight
JL > or something?

G > Be careful about assessing Archie!   He hates that!

krw > How can you tell?

Good question! LOL

He called me "assessment boy" once.

But then he also promised to file a law suit against me!
ROFL

As long as he doesn't call you an asshole, you're alright. If he did, that
means he loves you and wants to take you home to mommy's hamper.

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

Archie > Aircraft carriers purchase spares in TENsies.
Archie > And we are talking about quarter mil pieces too.

Since when would an Aircraft Carrier purchaase anything?

Come back when you learn how things get appropriated on a warship.

Short of that, **** off, you retarded twit.

krw > AlwaysWrong is *ALWAYS* wrong. Look
krw > up the history of the F-16 contract
krw > sometime, DimBub.  ...if you can read.

Archie > They carry and use our gear.  They have
Archie > banks of spares in their hangars, and
Archie > trade out right on the flight line for new
Archie > and send the fail to us for repair all
Archie > the time from all over the world.
Archie >
Archie > Our gear is on all currently active aircraft
Archie > in use by all allies in all theaters.  That
Archie > includes ALL F-16s.  Spares abound of
Archie > ANY critical subsystem, and the birds
Archie > are made such that most of those are
Archie > modular and can be directly traded out
Archie > en mass , thus moving the repair point to
Archie > another time and or place, keeping the
Archie > bird flight ready by the utilization of the
Archie > new, run ready spare.

Are you pretending you work for
Rockwell Collins Avionics, Archie?

No, but your attempts at "research" are just as retarded as all the
other total horseshit you post here.

Idiots like you must be put in your pathetic place.

Oh... that's right, you never left your pathetic place. That is your
norm.

 

[Jamie]

I've silk-screened rack panels myself. We still routinely have panels
screened. ICs were commonly silk screened before laser marking got
popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_screen

Actual semiconductors have been manufactured by silk screening.
Hybrids still are.

John

At one of my side consulting jobs (Semco), they bought retired IC
printing machines to print the dipped mica caps. They were rubber stamps
on a rotating wheel. They did a beautiful job.. You simply selected the
type rubber needed for the surface and longevity. Hard rubber for
flat surfaces and soft for non conforming surfaces, like dipped mica's
etc. Feeders were also selected depending on the package type.

I guess they're various ways of doing it.

Jamie

 

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Archie > Aircraft carriers purchase spares in TENsies.
Archie > And we are talking about quarter mil pieces too.

Since when would an Aircraft Carrier purchaase anything?

I bet aircraft carriers don't have *any* spares for F-16s. Of course
AlwaysWrong has always been and will always be wrong. It does give him the
attention he so badly needs, though.

krw > AlwaysWrong is *ALWAYS* wrong. Look
krw > up the history of the F-16 contract
krw > sometime, DimBub.  ...if you can read.

Archie > They carry and use our gear.  They have
Archie > banks of spares in their hangars, and
Archie > trade out right on the flight line for new
Archie > and send the fail to us for repair all
Archie > the time from all over the world.
Archie >
Archie > Our gear is on all currently active aircraft
Archie > in use by all allies in all theaters.  That
Archie > includes ALL F-16s.  Spares abound of
Archie > ANY critical subsystem, and the birds
Archie > are made such that most of those are
Archie > modular and can be directly traded out
Archie > en mass , thus moving the repair point to
Archie > another time and or place, keeping the
Archie > bird flight ready by the utilization of the
Archie > new, run ready spare.

Are you pretending you work for
Rockwell Collins Avionics, Archie?

Night janitor.

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

I bet aircraft carriers don't have *any* spares for F-16s.

You're pretty stupid if you think that ANY F-16s ever use carriers.
You lose, again, as usual.

 

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You're pretty stupid if you think that ANY F-16s ever use carriers.
You lose, again, as usual.

Then why did you say they did, AlwaysWrong?!

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

krw > AlwaysWrong is *ALWAYS* wrong. Look
krw > up the history of the F-16 contract
krw > sometime, DimBub. ...if you can read.

Archie > They carry and use our gear. They have
Archie > banks of spares in their hangars, and
Archie > trade out right on the flight line for new
Archie > and send the fail to us for repair all
Archie > the time from all over the world.
Archie >
Archie > Our gear is on all currently active aircraft
Archie > in use by all allies in all theaters. That
Archie > includes ALL F-16s. Spares abound of
Archie > ANY critical subsystem, and the birds
Archie > are made such that most of those are
Archie > modular and can be directly traded out
Archie > en mass , thus moving the repair point to
Archie > another time and or place, keeping the
Archie > bird flight ready by the utilization of the
Archie > new, run ready spare.

G > Are you pretending you work for
G > Rockwell Collins Avionics, Archie?

krw > Night janitor.

Archie's an SSI disability case, bullshitting on usenet.

I make sure our boys have safe, secure comms.

You are yet another loser... nothing more.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

AW said that no ICs were ever screened. A single screened chip, out of
billions made, would make him wrong.

John

Makes it easy, doesn't it? Back in the seventies I visited the shop of
a guy who (among other things) would buy ICs (LSTTL, or TTL IIRC),
remove the markings and silk-screen his own company name (RDS) on
them. He had a ton of PCBA machinery in his shop and some design
skills (unfortunately not including EMC). High tech parts such as 7447
and 7490. ;-)



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[TheGlimmerMan]

Makes it easy, doesn't it? Back in the seventies I visited the shop of
a guy who (among other things) would buy ICs (LSTTL, or TTL IIRC),
remove the markings and silk-screen his own company name (RDS) on
them. He had a ton of PCBA machinery in his shop and some design
skills (unfortunately not including EMC). High tech parts such as 7447
and 7490. ;-)



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Some jack off friend of another jack off does not qualify as a chip
maker, so whatever the dippy, retarded bastard did with the chips has
nothing to do with a manufactured product.

And I'll bet that he did not screen print the crap he stole either.