vonage 911 service

[Doug L]

You mean another planet

Doug L

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Or in Robert's case... another country.

 

[Mr.Double-sided tape]

Did anyone see the email from Ken Kierchenbaum pertaining to the news
article about a Vontage customer dialing 911 when his home caught on fire
and they put him on hold?

In NYC the VoIP 911 calls were routed to the line and answering system
that police officers use when they call in sick.

 

[Frank Olson]

You mean another planet

Well that explains everything now, doesn't it??

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

"Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips? You were not
hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass." Vizzini - The
Princess Bride.

 

[Norm Mugford]

Bob Worthy wrote:

"I have trusted Bell for the better part of 60 years, no need to drop them
now."

Holy Sh#? Bob.......Now everyone's going to challenge "the better part
of 60 years"......

Now let's see...how old were you when you got your first phone?
Let say, around 20 years old...so that means you've only trusted Bell
for about 40 years......But since you've USED a phone since you
were 3 years old (when your mom let you talk to grandma) that means
you've trusted Bell for, let see...going on 57 years. And since you may
have lied about your age....It may only be 55 years.......

See what you started.......
There goes the ASA

Norm Mugford

The only thing they left out was the cost for the service. There must be
one
or they wouldn't give you a choice. And besides, it is nicey nicey they
give these guidelines, but does that mean you must educate everyone each
time they enter your home, i.e. house guests, kids and their friends,
maids,
baby sitter, house sitters, etc. of the rules or just the consequences?
What
people will do to save a couple of dollars. I am one that will always have
a
pots line whether I use it or not, simply because I know it is there. I
have
trusted Bell for the better part of 60 years, no need to drop them now.

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[Jen...tel]

Hey, no need to apologize, VOIP is made to confuse people.
I get people all the time telling me how good VOIP is. But when you
cut off all the BS, its all about cost. I explain that I could care
less what something can do, I look at what it CAN NOT do. If I CAN NOT
get help when I need it, it ain't worth the savings to me. I'm that
frigging important to myself that I'm worth every extra penny to
protect me! If they don't see themselves worth a cow's dropping, go
with VOIP!

 

[Bob Worthy]

Bob Worthy wrote:

"I have trusted Bell for the better part of 60 years, no need to drop them
now."

Holy Sh#? Bob.......Now everyone's going to challenge "the better part
of 60 years"......

Now let's see...how old were you when you got your first phone?
Let say, around 20 years old...so that means you've only trusted Bell
for about 40 years......But since you've USED a phone since you
were 3 years old (when your mom let you talk to grandma) that means
you've trusted Bell for, let see...going on 57 years.

3-4 years old is my first recollection of using a phone. My father was in
the Korean war and we stayed with grandma. I remember bits and pieces, but
more of what I was told by my mother. When the phone would ring, I would run
to answer in case it was my dad. No such luck. It was always the operator
making a connection. I do remember getting in trouble, because I would pick
it up on someone elses ring.

And since you may
have lied

Just Google bASS and you will see that anything goes here in the newsgroup

about your age....It may only be 55 years.......

In that case, I guess that does make you much older than me.

 

[mikey]

Jen...tel hey, that's kinda cute: gentle
did you intend that or am I just a hopeless romantic?

I concur. I feel slightl cognitive dissonance though, I just don't think
it's there yet.
I'd like to think 2 pair copper is still going to overcome. I sure like that
talk battery.

Hey, no need to apologize, VOIP is made to confuse people.
I get people all the time telling me how good VOIP is. But when you
cut off all the BS, its all about cost. I explain that I could care
less what something can do, I look at what it CAN NOT do. If I CAN NOT
get help when I need it, it ain't worth the savings to me. I'm that
frigging important to myself that I'm worth every extra penny to
protect me! If they don't see themselves worth a cow's dropping, go
with VOIP!

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[Robert L Bass]

I get people all the time telling me how good VOIP is.

But when you cut off all the BS, its all about cost.

For some folks that's true. For others cost is only one element
of the purchasing decision and not necessarily the primary one.
I chose VoIP because it allows me to take my telephone with me to
Brazil where I have a second home and office.

The VoIP phone stations I bought cost about $300 apiece. Each
worker has one. We can transfer or forward calls from any
location to any other -- even to the other side of the world --
at the touch of a button. Our VoIP auto-attendant software works
better than any of the hardware based solutions I've tried.

The monthly cost of the service is slightly higher than what I
was previously paying for Verizon land lines, but we now have 17
lines in hunting vs. the three lines we used to have.

I explain that I could care less what something can do, I
look at what it CAN NOT do. If I CAN NOT get help when
I need it, it ain't worth the savings to me...

If that were the case with my provider, I'd also have looked
elsewhere. The 911 interface they provide works as follows:
Each user fills in an online form with our name, address, name
and phone numbers of local police, fire and ambulance services.
If anyone on my VoIP network dials 911 the call is routed
directly to the appropriate facility.

What we don't get is 911 type display of our name and address at
the emergency call center. We have to give them our name and
address.

Because I only use VoIP service for my business, I still have
Verizon POTS lines at my home. Those can contact 911 in the
normal manner. Also, my DSL service rides on an active phone
line which can be used to dial 911 or to make other calls in the
event the DSL service goes down.

If the auto-attendant system goes offline, their switch will
temporarily route incoming calls to the POTS number. That has
nothing to do with 911 though. It's just an extra feature that I
like.

I'm that frigging important to myself...

Well, you're certainly in the right newsgroup. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

 

[Norm Mugford]

Mr. BAss wrote:

"For others cost is only one element of the purchasing decision"

Mr. BAss forgot to mention that "wiretaps" are not yet
covered under US law for VOIP and cannot be eavesdropped.

Convicted Felons know all the tricks.

Norm Mugford

For some folks that's true. For others cost is only one element
of the purchasing decision and not necessarily the primary one.
I chose VoIP because it allows me to take my telephone with me to
Brazil where I have a second home and office.

The VoIP phone stations I bought cost about $300 apiece. Each
worker has one. We can transfer or forward calls from any
location to any other -- even to the other side of the world --
at the touch of a button. Our VoIP auto-attendant software works
better than any of the hardware based solutions I've tried.

The monthly cost of the service is slightly higher than what I
was previously paying for Verizon land lines, but we now have 17
lines in hunting vs. the three lines we used to have.


If that were the case with my provider, I'd also have looked
elsewhere. The 911 interface they provide works as follows:
Each user fills in an online form with our name, address, name
and phone numbers of local police, fire and ambulance services.
If anyone on my VoIP network dials 911 the call is routed
directly to the appropriate facility.

What we don't get is 911 type display of our name and address at
the emergency call center. We have to give them our name and
address.

Because I only use VoIP service for my business, I still have
Verizon POTS lines at my home. Those can contact 911 in the
normal manner. Also, my DSL service rides on an active phone
line which can be used to dial 911 or to make other calls in the
event the DSL service goes down.

If the auto-attendant system goes offline, their switch will
temporarily route incoming calls to the POTS number. That has
nothing to do with 911 though. It's just an extra feature that I
like.


Well, you're certainly in the right newsgroup. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

[Frank Olson]

For some folks that's true. For others cost is only one element
of the purchasing decision and not necessarily the primary one.
I chose VoIP because it allows me to take my telephone with me to
Brazil where I have a second home and office.

Do you pay taxes on the "office" there? How do they compare to what you
pay in Florida? What are the licensing requirements for selling
equipment over the phone in Brazil?? How's the new central station
coming? I don't think "thatch huts" will qualify for the UL fire
listing, but I'm sure if you upgrade to wattle and daub on the main
bearing walls, you can probably go for the Brazilian Good Housekeeping
Seal of Approval.

The VoIP phone stations I bought cost about $300 apiece. Each
worker has one.

You've obviously purchased more than one. How many "workers" do you
have?? Two?? Three?? Five? Half a tribe?? A village??

We can transfer or forward calls from any
location to any other -- even to the other side of the world --
at the touch of a button. Our VoIP auto-attendant software works
better than any of the hardware based solutions I've tried.

I'll bet. You can probably even program it to recognize a customer's
phone number and route him to the "please leave a message" section,
versus "friends and family" who actually get to speak to a real live
"family member" (I won't say "prick" because that's only going to
provoke another one of your classic responses).

The monthly cost of the service is slightly higher than what I
was previously paying for Verizon land lines, but we now have 17
lines in hunting vs. the three lines we used to have.

Is it just me or does anyone else think it strange that with "17 lines
in hunting" and a "VOIP phone" for every "worker", a caller still has to
leave a call back message??

If that were the case with my provider, I'd also have looked
elsewhere. The 911 interface they provide works as follows:
Each user fills in an online form with our name, address, name
and phone numbers of local police, fire and ambulance services.
If anyone on my VoIP network dials 911 the call is routed
directly to the appropriate facility.

They have "911" in the jungle?? Let's see... the call would get routed
to a call "centre", and transmitted by tom-tom and log drum to the
"appropriate authority", right?. I sure do hope the medicine man isn't
too old and can still run fast.

What we don't get is 911 type display of our name and address at
the emergency call center. We have to give them our name and
address.

Of course. That's a great service. You're in the middle of having a
heart attack, can't breathe and you're going to what??? Tap out your
address in "Morse code" on the phone receiver all the while praying the
operator can understand you??


Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com