Maker Pro
Maker Pro

top-fed SSB backstay antenna??

L

Larry W4CSC

Actually you have been able to contact Bridge Tenders on Channel 13
(the Navigation Channel) for MANY years, but a few years back, the FCC
and USCG decided to move those Comms to Channel 9, when they designated
that Channel as a Secondary Calling Channel in the Maritime Mobile Radio
Service. This was advised, so as to free up Channel 13 for strictly
Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic.


Me

ALL bridges in South Carolina monitor Channel NINE.

By "Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic", I hope you mean ship bridges, not car-
train bridges....(c;
 
L

Larry W4CSC

Interesting. Out of all the many bridges on the ICW, the Wapoo Creek
operators (one on the way down, another on the way up) were the only
ones that we had trouble with.

Doug
s/v Callista

What kind of "trouble"? I'd be glad to talk to them, in person, to
straighten out any misunderstanding you had with them.

Was the bridge stuck at the time? They usually get a little excited when
it won't lock back down. In SC, we divert road and bridge funding away
from where it's needed to Mt Pleasant, where the politician-lawyers'
mansions are, which lets the rest of the infrastructure cave in.

The old swing bridge at Main Road on John's Island, SC, has been replaced
with a 55' high span, now, because the lawyer-doctors didn't like to wait
on their way to the Kiawah and Seabrook Island resort homes. There's no
bridge tenders there, any more. The Stono River swing bridge is also gone
to a 55' span so Kiawah and Seabrook lawyers can get to court downtown,
too.
 
D

Doug Dotson

Our experiences were not all that serious, just annoying enough
that when I hear Wapoo Creek I flash back. On the way down,
we timed our departure from City Marina so that we would arrive
at the bridge just before opening time. We arrived 2 minutes before
the hour but the operator said we were too late. We had to mill
around until the next opening. On the way back up, we arrived way
early with another boat. We both milled around awaiting the next
opening. As the time neared the operator instructed us to approach
the bridge and she would open it when we were close. As we
neared the bridge a tug/barge came through the bridge. We had
to scoot out of the way while being swept towards to bridge by the
current. We couldn't come about so had to tread water in reverse
while being squeezed between the barge and the shallows. The wake
from the barge complicated matters as did the fact that she still hadn;t
raised the bridge. She made us jockey around for another 5 minutes
before finally opening the bridge.

Doug
s/v Callista
 
J

Jetcap

krj said:
7 W4CSC BUTLER, LARRY E 0003505047 HV Active

That's the only one he holds according to the FCC. A ham vanity call. No
GROL, no GMDSS operator, no "GMDSS maintainer, nothing else.

Of course if he does he is perfectly free to post the numbers here and
prove that he has the paper to backup his claims. He ran away last time
he got caught.

And he thinks the CG ops are jerks because they wouldn't let him adjust
their radios ...

Rick
 
J

Jetcap

Doug said:
Sorry Rick. You'll have to do better than that.

It appears that older restricted permits are not listed. I will concede
that Larry may hold an old restricted radiotelephone ticket, one of
those licenses far easier to obtain than the "giveaway" GROL or GMDSS
tickets he was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own
license level.

"Better" than what? Larry is the one trashing a lot of good people who
actually hold the licenses he says are useless while he claims to hold
tickets he doesn't. He is a fraud, a ham who is bent and bitter that no
one will let him play radio operator outside his closet.

Rick
 
J

Jetcap

Larry said:
If anyone needs emergency comms on any freq between 1.8 and 30.0 Mhz, I can

Good thing you specified "emergency" because you aren't licensed to do
squat outside the ham bands (and marine bands while onboard that plastic
sailboat) you old fraud.

Not to mention the idea of advertising to provide "emergency" comms
seems a bit peculiar ... are your customers supposed to call you on the
phone to obtain that service?

Rick
 
D

Doug Dotson

Jetcap said:
It appears that older restricted permits are not listed. I will concede
that Larry may hold an old restricted radiotelephone ticket, one of those
licenses far easier to obtain than the "giveaway" GROL or GMDSS tickets he
was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level.

I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.
"Better" than what? Larry is the one trashing a lot of good people who
actually hold the licenses he says are useless while he claims to hold
tickets he doesn't. He is a fraud, a ham who is bent and bitter that no
one will let him play radio operator outside his closet.

I seem to recall have to do a fair amount of studying to get my ham, GROL,
and GMDSS tickets. I certainly wouldn't call them giveaways.
 
J

Jetcap

Doug said:
I seem to recall have to do a fair amount of studying to get my ham, GROL,
and GMDSS tickets. I certainly wouldn't call them giveaways.

Few of us who hold them do. Larry, on the other hand, who does not hold
anything other than a ham ticket and as he claimed today, a restricted
operator's permit, has spent considerable time trashing those who do. He
is the one who called them "giveaways" not me.

I am just on his case for his false claims and his bizarre attacks on
those who actually hold the tickets he claimed.

If he holds them all he has to do is post the numbers ... otherwise it
proves he is a fraud.

Rick
 
B

Bruce in Alaska

Larry W4CSC said:
ALL bridges in South Carolina monitor Channel NINE.

By "Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic", I hope you mean ship bridges, not car-
train bridges....(c;

Yes, I do mean "Bridge to Bridge" Radio traffic as in Bridge to Bridge
Act, which is now Subpart U of Part 90 47CFR.

Bruce in alaska
 
B

Bruce in Alaska

was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level.

I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.[/QUOTE]

They exist because it is a requirment of the International Radio Treaties
that the US is signitory to. All radio operations that are, or could be
international in nature, are required to be made by LICENSED Radio
Operators from LICENSED Radio Stations. Therefor, if you sail or fly
internationally, you MUST have a vaild Station License, and Operators
License issued by the Government of your vessels or aircrafts Flag.
I have assisted many pilots and skippers navigate the FLS of our FCC, to
secure the appropriate licenses for international operations. These
folks actually PAY me, to help them obtain the licensing that they need.
I also do licensing consulating for Part 90, Part 87, Part 80, and Part
22 operations.


Bruce in alaska used to be a FED and that helps a lot........
 
B

Bruce in Alaska

Larry W4CSC said:
I've never seen anyone killed by 150W from these little transmitters.
1.5KW from a ham rig is another matter...(c;

Maybe not killed, but RF Burns were very common when the RF Grounding
System wasn't big enough to support the transmitter.


Bruce in alaska
 
D

Doug Dotson

Bruce in Alaska said:
I'm not really sure why the Restriced Permit even exists other than for
the FCC to make money. There are no qualifications, no callsign, no
anything. They make sure the price stays indexed to inflation though.
Mine cost $10 back in 1970, my wife's cost $40 4 years ago. Most
folks I know don't even bother to get one.

They exist because it is a requirment of the International Radio Treaties
that the US is signitory to. All radio operations that are, or could be
international in nature, are required to be made by LICENSED Radio
Operators from LICENSED Radio Stations. Therefor, if you sail or fly
internationally, you MUST have a vaild Station License, and Operators
License issued by the Government of your vessels or aircrafts Flag.[/QUOTE]

So it is international mumbo-jumbo. Station license makes sense. A license
with no means of identification (ie. callsign) isn;t worth much. Perhaps
the ITU will eliminate it like the Morse Code requirement.
I have assisted many pilots and skippers navigate the FLS of our FCC, to
secure the appropriate licenses for international operations. These
folks actually PAY me, to help them obtain the licensing that they need.
I also do licensing consulating for Part 90, Part 87, Part 80, and Part
22 operations.

Hummmnmnmnn. Perhaps being smart enough to navigate FLS should be
a prerequisite to getting a license. Kind of like a basic intelligence test
:)
 
M

Me

First please note I tried to reply to this article via email but the
[email protected] address made it impossible. Please give a pointer to
your actual email in your sig if nothing else such as the one in mine
below.

Since you didn't I guess I"ll put my asbestos suit on and take the
flames for waht I'm about to post. I can always ignore those without
real points to make other than flamage.
snipped for brevity
73 de nf5b



Richard Webb, amateur radio callsign nf5b
active on the Maritime Mobile service network, 14.300 mhz
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

--

Oh, Hmmm, Ahhhhh, I see, Just another my Pee pee is bigger than your
Pee Pee, Na na na na nana naw.......


Me
 
L

Larry W4CSC

Maybe not killed, but RF Burns were very common when the RF Grounding
System wasn't big enough to support the transmitter.


Bruce in alaska

When I was a MINELANT, we had a problem with the old, wooden minesweepers
that had URC-32, 500W transmitters on them. A sailor was burned quite
badly in his hands when he came in contact between two sections of well-
grounded handrail from the RF induced. The handrail sections had separate
ground paths to ship's ground. They checked out the grounding and it was
all intact and the electricians tasked with the problem were scratching
their heads as to how he could have gotten zapped.

AS 1/4 wavelength back from ship's ground was a virtual open, and that
ground strap, itself, were part of the "handrail antenna", I had a lot of
convincing to them that this was the problem. The two lengths of ground
straps were different, so one hand rail was at a different RF potential
than the other when the transmitter was keyed up.

To satisfy both DC grounding requirements and to stop the RF buildup on the
components, I convinced them to put RF chokes in series with the ground
straps at the handrail end, eliminating the big vertical antenna of the
strap across the wooden hull. Worked great, on all frequencies.

On fiberglass flybridges, all those cables under the helm exposed to the RF
from a nearby HF antenna and its tuner can create havoc to the NMEA network
and everything attached to it. I found one boat where the panel lighting
would glow when the HF transmitter was on the 4 Mhz band as the wiring
resonated just right.

Of course, if the manufacturers would use NMEA's BALANCED specifications,
instead of hooking between one leg of the balanced system and ground for
their NMEA in/out connections, they could help stop the intrusion of RF
into the system in the first place. The "ground" wire hooked to the boat's
battery negative is a great HF antenna up on the flybridge end....
 
L

Larry W4CSC

Yes, I do mean "Bridge to Bridge" Radio traffic as in Bridge to Bridge
Act, which is now Subpart U of Part 90 47CFR.

Bruce in alaska

Now, if we could only get some ENFORCEMENT to run the MARINAS off the only
pleasure boat to pleasure boat channel.....(sigh)
 
L

Larry W4CSC

She made us jockey around for another 5 minutes
before finally opening the bridge.

Doug
s/v Callista

Ah, I see. The bridge tender there is under intense pressure by the SCDOT
to keep that bridge, the only very busy bridge to James Island and Folly
Beach, open to vehicle traffic. The other problem is that ziggy Wappoo Cut
makes just on the harbor side of the bridge towards inland. Watching a
long barge, or worse yet a tow involving long dredge pipes mounted on
floats with two tugs, one on either end, trying to jockey it through that
narrows is nerve wracking. I watched this happen from the public boat
landing dock on many occasions. The tug in front lines up the head end of
the pipes with the slot of the bridge, while the tug aft does a hard push
sideways as close to shore on the James Island side as he can get it so the
middle might not crash into the bridge. It was very poor planning on the
part of whoever dug the ditch to make that curve so close to the bridge.

Waitaminit! Callista is a SAILBOAT! Aren't you supposed to be at
SEA?!...(c; You took the wrong turn! The short cut is from Charleston to
Jacksonville, eliminating all these ICW problems!
 
B

Bruce in Alaska

Larry W4CSC said:
Now, if we could only get some ENFORCEMENT to run the MARINAS off the only
pleasure boat to pleasure boat channel.....(sigh)

Enforcement??? From the FCC??? Where have you been for the last 15
years? all the good guys have long since left, been laid off, or
retired. Well, maybe Johnnie Johnson, and that Lawyer Guy, are still
there, but most of the Enforcement Teams, don't exist anymore.


Bruce in alaska who used to be one of those guys.........
 
Top