the heavy body trick

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Good idea, but still unsatisfactory...
Why is the watery bag so difficult to lift?
What makes it 'heavier'?.

Nothing makes it heavier; it weights exactly the same. The difference
is in your ability to apply force to lift it.

Back in the day, people didn't understand as much about the world
around them, so they would make up things like "chi" to explain what
they could not otherwise comprehend.

 

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Nothing makes it heavier; it weights exactly the same. The difference
is in your ability to apply force to lift it.

Back in the day, people didn't understand as much about the world
around them, so they would make up things like "chi" to explain what
they could not otherwise comprehend.

Now, if they don't understand something, they "do science to it" and
come up with an answer..

 

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Now, if they don't understand something, they "do science to it" and
come up with an answer...

I am SO sending the ghost of Julius Sumner Miller after your sorry
ass... [begins incantations]

 

[Pboud]

Now, if they don't understand something, they "do science to it" and
come up with an answer...

I am SO sending the ghost of Julius Sumner Miller after your sorry
ass... [begins incantations]

 

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Nothing makes it heavier; it weights exactly the same. The difference
is in your ability to apply force to lift it.

Back in the day, people didn't understand as much about the world
around them, so they would make up things like "chi" to explain what
they could not otherwise comprehend.

what words do you use to describe everything you can't comprehend?


Hal

 

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what words do you use to describe everything you can't comprehend?

Stop projecting your failings onto other people.

 

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Stop projecting your failings onto other people.

it's a legitimate question. You claim "chi is a made-up thing to
explain what they could not otherwise comprehend". So are you
all-knowing? Doubt it. If not, then what words do you have made up
to explain what you cannot otherwise comprehend? It's easy. Even you
should be able to get it. List a few. Go ahead.

Hal

 

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it's a legitimate question.  

No, it is a particularly lame attempt at projection.

You claim "chi is a made-up thing to explain what they could not otherwise comprehend".  

Yes, because clearly in the case presented, the "extra weight" is due
to mundane physics without any need for any additional construct such
as "chi" to explain it.

So are you all-knowing?  

Nope; it just seems that way in comparison to you.

Doubt it.  

Good, that is a glimmer of intelligence in the otherwise dark depths
of your stupidity.

If not, then what words do you have made up
to explain what you cannot otherwise comprehend?  

None whatsoever beyond the age of four or five.

It's easy.  

Agreed; which is why people like you are so willing to do it.

Even you should be able to get it.  List a few.  Go ahead.

We agree that anyone can do it. Your failing is in your inability to
*not* do it.

 

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No, it is a particularly lame attempt at projection.

no be ridiculous. I'm just baiting you. Whatsamatter, afraid to give
it a try?

of course you are.

Yes, because clearly in the case presented, the "extra weight" is due
to mundane physics without any need for any additional construct such
as "chi" to explain it.

and think of a word you use to explain things beyond your
comprehension.

Nope; it just seems that way in comparison to you.


Good, that is a glimmer of intelligence in the otherwise dark depths
of your stupidity.


None whatsoever beyond the age of four or five.
pussy


Agreed; which is why people like you are so willing to do it.


We agree that anyone can do it. Your failing is in your inability to
*not* do it.

whatever are you babbling about now? Go ahead. Be a man. Give it a
try. What is something you cannot comprehend and what word do you
use to describe it? Go ahead, punk. Make my day.


Hal

 

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no be ridiculous.  I'm just baiting you.  Whatsamatter, afraid to give
it a try?

Baiting me to give an example of me doing something that *you*
routinely do... right, Hal - that makes a whole heap of sense...

of course you are.
Riiight.



and think of a word you use to explain things beyond your
comprehension.

I generally use something along the lines of "unknown", or
"undefined".

pussy

Delusional moron.

whatever are you babbling about now?  Go ahead.  Be a man.   Give it a
try.   What is something you cannot comprehend and what word do you
use to describe it?  Go ahead, punk.  Make my day.

Okay... okay... whenever I cannot determine the value of a column in
a row of data... I call it NULL!!

Oh, the shame!

 

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don't be ridiculous.  I'm just baiting you.  Whatsamatter, afraid to give

Baiting me to give an example of me doing something that *you*
routinely do... right, Hal - that makes a whole heap of sense...

what on Earth are you babbling about? You claimed chi was a made up
term used to describe something beyond people's comprehension. I
asked you for an example of a word you use for things that are beyond
your comprehension. Do you not understand the question? Or you
afraid to play? Come on punk. Are you feeling lucky?

Hal

 

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Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick. The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him. First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

A limp human is almost impossible to pick up. I've been there, done
that. When the liftee makes himself rigid, it's like lifting a heavy
board. When he lets himself go limp, it's more like lifting a bag of
water.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Dodgy answer.

A mattress is 7' x 3', too big for one person
to grip.

Apparently, nobody's told you about the handles yet. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

I generally generate Chi before I go limp

The flow of Chi is continuous - the difference is in how well
you're able to recognize its subtleties - IOW, to "notice" it. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Chi must be accompanied by time.
hence you add the time factor "t" to the the "chi" factor
and you get "chit".

And with enough "chit" you can fool almost anyone.

If you've got an IOU for a pizza, would it be called a "pizza chit"? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

lol is it any wonder you have trouble figuring stuff like chi out... i
mean, any wonder at all?

You can't "figure out" Chi - it can only be experienced. It'd be like
writing a quantum mechanical equation defining Love.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Rich the Philosophizer]

Back in the day, people didn't understand as much about the world
around them, so they would make up things like "chi" to explain what
they could not otherwise comprehend.

Just denying its existence doesn't make it not be; The denial merely
limits the breadth and scope of your personal universe.

Cheers!
Rich

 

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what on Earth are you babbling about?  

Your lame attempt at projection. I've already said that twice, but
since some of the words have more than two syllables, I can see how
you might have had some trouble following. Try reading slowly, and
aloud. Sound out the words that are difficult.

You claimed chi was a made up term used to describe something beyond people's comprehension.  
Correct.

I asked you for an example of a word you use for things that are beyond
your comprehension.  

And I explained to you that I don't make up words for things that are
beyond my comprehension. I don't fall back on made-up concepts like
"chi" to explain things that are not immediately explainable.

Do you not understand the question?  

Do you not understand that I - and many others here - simply do not
share your failings? I mean seriously, even someone as arrogantly
stupid as you should understand this by now. Haven't you noticed how
incredibly often you are corrected on this newsgroup, and on such a
wide array of topics?

Or you afraid to play?  

Not at all. Are you planning to keep being the toy?

Come on  punk.  Are you feeling lucky?

Great line from a great movie. Kinda cheapens it when a schmuck like
you tries to pull it off, though.

 

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Your lame attempt at projection. I've already said that twice, but
since some of the words have more than two syllables, I can see how
you might have had some trouble following. Try reading slowly, and
aloud. Sound out the words that are difficult.

projection? WTF are you talking about ? I asked you a simple
question, and you do not understand.

And I explained to you that I don't make up words for things that are
beyond my comprehension. I don't fall back on made-up concepts like
"chi" to explain things that are not immediately explainable.

horseshit. You use one all the time. Don't tell me you need me to
explain it to you.

Do you not understand that I - and many others here - simply do not
share your failings? I mean seriously, even someone as arrogantly
stupid as you should understand this by now. Haven't you noticed how
incredibly often you are corrected on this newsgroup, and on such a
wide array of topics?

failings? What failings? What are you babbling about now? You are
the one who does not understand chi. You also cannot grasp a great
many things about your universe and you use made-up words to describe
things beyond your comprehension all the time. Don't make me explain
it to you. You clearly aren't very bright, but you can get it.

Not at all. Are you planning to keep being the toy?


Great line from a great movie. Kinda cheapens it when a schmuck like
you tries to pull it off, though.

Come on pussy. Take a crack at. What word do you use on a frequent
basis that describes something beyond your comprehension. Go ahead,
take a crack at. Or you going to dodge again? Want me to make a
prediciton about which way?


Hal

 

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projection?  WTF are you talking about ?  I asked you a simple
question, and you do not understand.

You want me to give you an example of me doing what you feel I've
accused you of doing... Actually, I never actually accused you - in a
rare spark of sentience you simply recognized yourself in what I was
describing.

horseshit.  You use one all the time.  Don't tell me you need me to
explain it to you.  

What make believe word do I use all the time to explain things?
You're the one making the claim, so you provide the example.

failings?  What failings?  

In this case your delusion.

What are you babbling about now?  You are
the one who does not understand chi.  

As opposed to the deep understanding you demonstrate when you deem it
to be a "biochemical process" and then find yourself sputtering
helplessly upon any attempt to go further? Is that what you mean by
"understanding" something - the ability to blurt out meaningless
definitions?

You also cannot grasp a great many things about your universe and you usemade-up words to describe
things beyond your comprehension all the time.  

And yet you are unable to come up with a single example; odd how that
works.

Don't make me explain it to you.  You clearly aren't very bright, but you can get it.  

There is not much in this world that you could explain to anyone.

Come on pussy. Take a crack at.  What word do you use on a frequent
basis that describes something beyond your comprehension.  Go ahead,
take a crack at.  Or you going to dodge again?  Want me to make a
prediciton about which way?

Sorry, Hal - you're going to have to construct your own strawmen.