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RichD

Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick. The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him. First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?
 
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Sam Wormley

RichD said:
Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick. The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him. First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

Why are you trolling Rich?
 
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Richard Henry

Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick.  The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him.  First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

Did you ever try to move a mattress?
 
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PeterD

Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick. The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him. First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

You can test this at home, without paying for a circus ticket.

First get your wife. Grab her, pick her up and say: "Fun time in the
bedroom" (She'll go stiff as a board, and tell you to go straight to
hell.)

Next, get her roaring drunk. Try the same trick, and she'll be limp as
a wet noodle and if you want any it'll have to be right there on the
kitchen floor.
 
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PD

Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick.  The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him.  First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

You can pick the performer up pretty easily if you curl your fingers
in his hair and pull upward.

But if the agreed upon method is to raise up by getting your arms
under him and lifting, then it's pretty easy to see how to defeat
that. Take a garbage bag and put in it 8 gallons of water, which
weighs only 64 pounds, a weight most people can lift with ease. But
put your arms under the bag and try to lift it.

PD
 
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RichD

You can pick the performer up pretty easily if you curl your fingers
in his hair and pull upward.

But if the agreed upon method is to raise up by
getting your arms under him and lifting, then it's
pretty easy to see how to defeat that. Take a
garbage bag and put in it 8 gallons of water, which
weighs only 64 pounds, a weight most people can lift
with ease. But put your arms under the bag and try to lift it.


Good idea, but still unsatisfactory...
Why is the watery bag so difficult to lift?
What makes it 'heavier'?.
 
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RichD

Did you ever try to move a mattress?

Dodgy answer.

A mattress is 7' x 3', too big for one person
to grip. But 2 people, holding opposite ends,
can move it easily, whether stiff or flexible.
 
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ehsjr

RichD said:
Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick. The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him. First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

With a limp body, there is a force vector on each
lifter, pulling them toward each other. They must
pull back and lift at the same time to raise the
body. Physiologically, it is very hard to pull
back with your hands down at your sides - the
position of your body is all wrong for your biceps
to do any horizontal pulling. Your shoulder
muscles have to provide the pulling force against
the long lever of your arm. A rigid body eliminates
that pulling, and your arms are in good position
to lift using biceps, or, if you squat to grasp the
body, your leg and back muscles can do the work, and
are in good position to do so.

Ed
 
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tadchem

Popular among so-called martial arts demos, and similar circus
acts, is the 'heavy body' trick.  The performer asks 2 volunteers
to lift him.  First, he tenses his whole body, and they lift him
easily.
Then, he goes limp, which generates 'chi', and gets heavier, i.e.
rooted to the ground.

So how does this relaxation technique make him unliftable?

Try it with one finger and pasta.

Try to balance a strand of uncooked spaghetti on one finger. Not
hard, is it?

Cook it. Now try it again.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
 
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PD

Good idea, but still unsatisfactory...
Why is the watery bag so difficult to lift?
What makes it 'heavier'?.

It's not heavier.
So why do YOU think a watery bag is so difficult to lift?
 
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yazig

Good idea, but still unsatisfactory...
Why is the watery bag so difficult to lift?
What makes it 'heavier'?.

It's not heavier.
So why do YOU think a watery bag is so difficult to lift?



Must be that water, in general, is a chi master.
 
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Renli

It's not heavier.
So why do YOU think a watery bag is so difficult to lift?

Must be that water, in general, is a chi master.

It would be simple to test that theory.

Fill a bag with water. Kick the shit out of it.

Did you win? (I'll assume yes).

Are you a chi master? (I'll assume no).

Two explanations are possible; Either the bag of water was a chi
master, and chi doesn't work - or maybe - just maybe, neither you nor
a bag of water has much chance of using their chi. Nahh that couldn't
be it. Water is a chi master, we take that fact as a given...

lol is it any wonder you have trouble figuring stuff like chi out... i
mean, any wonder at all?

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It would be simple to test that theory.

Fill a bag with water. Kick the shit out of it.

Water to wine has been done before, but water to shit???
be it. Water is a chi master, we take that fact as a given...

According to my Feng Shui book water can indeed produce
good qi, if used right... :)
And as Bruce Lee said: "Be like water, my friend."

OTOH:
http://www.waterchi.com/
Aqua Chi Pro Classic Model 5400
Price $1,595.00

I just can't believe it.

LL
 
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SPORTfighter

Good idea, but still unsatisfactory...
Why is the watery bag so difficult to lift?
What makes it 'heavier'?.

Let me simplify what other lesser men responded.
Things feel heavier when they are harder to grip.Period.
 
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Fraser Johnston

Water to wine has been done before, but water to shit???


According to my Feng Shui book water can indeed produce
good qi, if used right... :)
And as Bruce Lee said: "Be like water, my friend."

OTOH:
http://www.waterchi.com/
Aqua Chi Pro Classic Model 5400
Price $1,595.00

I just can't believe it.

LL

1600 bucks for a foot spa. I'm in the wrong business.

Fraser
 
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