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Jan Panteltje
Fire official: Man's cell phone apparently sets him ablaze:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/15/cell.phone.fire.ap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/15/cell.phone.fire.ap/index.html
Jan said:Fire official: Man's cell phone apparently sets him ablaze:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/15/cell.phone.fire.ap/index.html
Almost certainly the battery, rather than the 'electronics'. There were aJan Panteltje said:Fire official: Man's cell phone apparently sets him ablaze:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/15/cell.phone.fire.ap/index.html
Agree wholeheartedly.Eeyore said:Why do ppl insist on wearing such flammable clothes made from plastics ?
There were a number of cases a little whle ago, of 'clone' batteries"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message:
Fire official: Man's cell phone apparently sets him ablaze:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/15/cell.phone.fire.ap/index.html
Almost certainly the battery, rather than the 'electronics'. There were a
number of cases a little whle ago, of 'clone' batteries (and some genuine
ones), that if mechanically distorted, could short internally. When you
discharge the energy in modern cells quickly the temperatures involved can
be really dangerous. Even worse, on Lithium based cells, once they
rupture, if moisture is present, you then get the chemical action as the
Lithium re-acts. Many years ago, large Lithium cells were used in some kit
in TV studios. I was present one day, when one started to smoulder. It was
not doing much harm, till somebody decided to throw a bucket of water over
it. Clouds of really hot steam. The fact the man was in the bathroom, may
suggest a similar scenario with water...
Best Wishes
Why do ppl insist on wearing such flammable clothes made from plastics ?
Rich said:1. They're cheap.
2. Who expects a telephone to start a fire?
Cheers!
Rich
you forgot:
3. most people havent a clue about what there clothes are made of, let -----------------------------------------^^^^^
alone whether or not its flammable. this could be abbreviated to: most
people havent a clue....
mpm said:If I remember correctly, one of the reason these batteries can be so
dangerous is that during combustion, they create their own oxygen
source. This can make the fire very difficult to put out, perhaps
nearly impossible using ordinary means.
I recall reading an article on this very subject recently (EE Product
News, I think?) that was questioning whether these batteries should be
allowed aboard commercial aircraft. The incident of battery ignition
is indeed quite low, but it that environment could prove catastrophic.
I don't think the general public really understands just how dangerous
these devices can become - under the wrong circumstances.
Jan said:you forgot:
3. most people havent a clue about what there clothes are made of, let
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alone whether or not its flammable. this could be abbreviated to: most
people havent a clue....
Yea, but most people get along somehow in a world full of things they
have not much of a clue about sometimes.
As a neural net [we are] errors are inherent, even if we have done something
1000 times, we still have a good chance of doing it wrong.
indeed.
When every body is replaced by silicon [robots], still cosmic rays will cause glitches.
So the robot world is not perfect either.
You cannot know everything, so get used to the subset ;-).
Note to self: No useful data, do not post it.
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