Telular Telguard TG-1 & TG-4 Service Pricing

[Frank Olson]

Yeah, I know what you mean .... so.......

Drop dead and hit your head on the way down.

(to quote you)

Actually, the quote goes: "Drop dead and on the way down, hit your head."

 

[Jim]

Actually, the quote goes:  "Drop dead and on the way down, hit your head."-

Alright ..... alright. So he hits' his head twice.

 

[Robert L Bass]

What happened to Graham was

*your* doing...

As usual, you're wrong. You, Cracker and several others decided to take things real life with me. That was your choice. Cracker
liked to nip at my heels like a bad-mannered Chihuaha. I told him repeatedly not to mess with me. He had to learn the hard way
that, although I rarely strike back, when I do I hit harder that you and your moronic pals do.

Rob (AlarmReview) published his name, address and place of employment.

His name, address and place of employment are a matter of public record. Since you're not an installer you wouldn't understand that
sort of thing.

This is not the first time you've taken
steps like this against your detractors...

I only responded after he committed a criminal act against me. I could have gone after him much harder if I wanted to. He's still
walking aound free at the moment.

And you've only recently threatened
to do exactly the same thing again...

Wrong again. I only *asked* him if his
new employers are aware of his alcoholism,
drug addiction and his mental disease.

What a dirty, rotten, piece of flotsam
you are...

Let's see. You called my distributors and
several manufacturers trying to interfere
with my business. You filed a false complaint
with my state authorities (they tossed it).
You've infuriated the members of another
newsgroup with your years' long attacks
against me. Now you pretend to be
outraged because I reported (factually)
that your stupid side-kick committed a
crime against me. You are the most
disingenuous piece of rhinocerous pizzle
(gotta love Eddy Murphy for that line)
ever to darken the industry's doorstep
with your worm-eaten carcass.

As for your comment about "false
complaints" being "my specialty", you're full of shit, Bass...

You admitted complaining to the Florida
board and they threw it out. Case closed,
you useless sack of jiminex.

BTW, one of my Boeing customers
placed an order today. We were chatting
about various things when I told her your
stupid lie about borrowing an airliner from
Boeing. It took a while for her to stop
laughing. You really ought to come clean
not only about that but all of the thousands
of lies you've told virtually every day since
you came into this newsgroup desperately
looking for someone to pretend they're a
friend.

 

[Frank Olson]

As usual, you're wrong. You, Cracker and several others decided to take things real life with me.

Graham never took anything "real life" with you. He was dumb enough to
call you. He was even dumber to trust you with personal information.

That was your choice.

So I'm to blame for you filing a false complaint with Graham's boss?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Geeze Bass, you're an idiot.

Cracker
liked to nip at my heels like a bad-mannered Chihuaha.

Harmless fun. Calling an asshole "an asshole" isn't exactly "rocket
science".

I told him repeatedly not to mess with me. He had to learn the hard way
that, although I rarely strike back, when I do I hit harder that you and your moronic pals do.

And when you do hit back, you lie, lie, lie. You're a lying sack of
shit, Bass.

His name, address and place of employment are a matter of public record.

Uh-huh... Just as your information is a matter of public record
including your SIN number. I should really post it but I'm afraid
you'll call my boss and file a false complaint.

Since you're not an installer you wouldn't understand that
sort of thing.

Same old tired lie, Bass... You should really try writing some new
material.

I only responded after he committed a criminal act against me.

Really?? I know for a fact he did no such thing. He merely paid for a
copy of *your* criminal record from a publicly accessible data base. He
then called you to tell you what he'd done and also told you that your
SIN number appears on the record as well. You lied to his employer when
you told him Graham used "company resources" to run a "credit check" on
you. His company doesn't run "credit checks", and furthermore doesn't
have an account with a credit reporting agency. You're so full of shit
your eyes are brown.

I could have gone after him much harder if I wanted to. He's still
walking aound free at the moment.

More bullshit from the man that said he would never "hurt anyone".
You're a lying sack of scum. The reason you won't take it further is
that more than a few people know the truth. Graham would nail your ass
for libel and I would be only too happy to appear as a witness to your
malicious character.

Wrong again. I only *asked* him if his
new employers are aware of his alcoholism,
drug addiction and his mental disease.

Are your partners and employers aware of your mental disease?

Let's see. You called my distributors and
several manufacturers trying to interfere
with my business.

Wrong. I called one distributor (ADI), didn't mention your name or
mine. I called one manufacturer (DSC) to advise them that you were
providing their downloading software from a link on your own website.
The part about "interfering with your business" is entirely your own
"fabrication". Geeeze, Bass. You don't have to "fabricate" anything.
Everyone knows you're an asshole. You should really find some new material.

You filed a false complaint
with my state authorities (they tossed it).

It wasn't a "false complaint". And they didn't "toss it". They never
received it due to a broken link on the submittal form which they have
since fixed. I've never bothered re-filing. Why waste my time when
they've already dealt with the monitoring issue and nailed your ass?

You've infuriated the members of another
newsgroup with your years' long attacks
against me.

Heh... right... And not a single one ever recommends your "services".
Doesn't that tell you something?

Now you pretend to be
outraged because I reported (factually)
that your stupid side-kick committed a
crime against me.

Bullshit Bass. You and I both know the truth about what happened.
You're lying (again).

You are the most
disingenuous piece of rhinocerous pizzle
(gotta love Eddy Murphy for that line)
ever to darken the industry's doorstep
with your worm-eaten carcass.

That particular sentiment applies to you more than me.

You admitted complaining to the Florida
board
Yep.


and they threw it out.

You'd really like to believe that wouldn't you. Repeat it a few more
times and maybe you will (believe it).

BTW, one of my Boeing customers
placed an order today.

Oh, here we go again. Another "nameless Boeing
pilot/engineer/secretary/janitor". You have no "Boeing customers". You
can't even spell "aileron".

 

[Robert L Bass]

Graham never took anything "real life"

with you...

You're lying again.

He was dumb enough to call you.
Yep.

He was even dumber to trust you
with personal information.

Actually, his personal information is online at the Texas government website. I never repeated anything he told me about himself
outside this newsgroup. However, he has told several others (including you) the exact same things as he told me about his
alcoholism, drug addiction and his mental disease (agoraphobia / panic disorder). He told at least four people that I know of about
his abusing X*nax and Lex*pro.

As I said earlier, he's the one who ruined his own life. He has no one to blame but himself.

Harmless fun....

Until he went RL it was harmless. After that no holds are barred. If he doesn't like what he got in return perhaps he'll think
twice next time he's inclined to go after someone.

Uh-huh... Just as your information is a matter
of public record including your SIN number.

We're all sinners.

Really?? I know for a fact he did no
such thing...

You stood behind him day and night making sure, eh?

His company doesn't run "credit checks"...

And yet they decided to fire him. Care to
explain how that came to pass if you insist
there's no way he could have committed the
crime (which of course, he did)?

Wrong. I called one distributor (ADI), didn't
mention your name or mine...

You're lying (again). We both know exactly
what you did because they called me right
after they got rid of your call. You also
boasted of having called manufacturers to
try to interfere with my accounts with them.
The result was the same. Money talks
and [you] walk.

It wasn't a "false complaint". And they
didn't "toss it"...

It was false alright. That's why they did
nothing with it.

Heh... right... And not a single one
ever recommends your "services".

Heh, keep believing that if you like.
Many of the people who have told
you to shut up are current clients
of mine.

Doesn't that tell you something?

Indeed.

 

[Frank Olson]

You're lying again.

Prove it. How did he go "real life" with you? If you say he ran a
"credit check" on you, you're lying (again).

Actually, his personal information is online at the Texas government website. I never repeated anything he told me about himself
outside this newsgroup.

Bullshit. The information on the Texas website only lists his current
address, employer, and birth date.

However, he has told several others (including you) the exact same things as he told me about his
alcoholism, drug addiction and his mental disease (agoraphobia / panic disorder).

You're a lying sack of shit, Bass. He never told me anything like that.
We joked about the fact that he'd had a couple but that certainly
shouldn't stigmatize him as an alcoholic. Go ahead and dance around all
you want. He has no "drug addiction or mental disorder". You've taken
things he's said "out of context" and twisted them around. You're a
malicious, malodorous son-of-a-bitch.

He told at least four people

Are they also "nameless Boeing pilots and engineers"??

As I said earlier, he's the one who ruined his own life.

With a "little help" from you.

He has no one to blame but himself.

Nope. He has *you* to blame for filing a false complaint. He really
should take you to court for libel. He's got a pretty good case.

Until he went RL it was harmless.

How'd he go "real life", Bass?

After that no holds are barred. If he doesn't like what he got in return perhaps he'll think
twice next time he's inclined to go after someone.

You're a coward. And stinky too.

We're all sinners.

And you rank right up there, Ebeneezer.

You stood behind him day and night making sure, eh?

Nope. He emailed me your "evidence" as well as his employers response.
Guess what?? He wasn't fired! It was all a lie.

And yet they decided to fire him.

He wasn't "fired".

Care to
explain how that came to pass if you insist
there's no way he could have committed the
crime (which of course, he did)?

Like I said... he wasn't "fired". You've decided to put that "spin" on
it. When are you going to "come clean", Robert?? When are you going to
"be a man"?

You're lying (again).

Prove it.

We both know exactly
what you did because they called me right
after they got rid of your call.

Then for sure it wasn't me. I'll bet the area code on their call
display read "Matawan". I never identified myself or mentioned your
name. In our ONE AND ONLY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION you even agreed that
the calls to your suppliers could have been from "anyone in the Group"
using my name. What you've repeatedly stated wouldn't constitute
sufficient evidence and your repeating it over and over doesn't either.
C'mon, Bassy.... PROVE IT!!

You also
boasted of having called manufacturers to
try to interfere with my accounts with them.

Prove it. Which "manufacturers" did I "boast" I called?? There was
only one. DSC. And you damn well know the reason why.

The result was the same. Money talks
and [you] walk.

Heh... Within 23 minutes of my making that call (to DSC) the link to
your pirated software was removed. You're a lying thief Bass.

It was false alright. That's why they did
nothing with it.

Repeat it a few more times... On second thought... you already believe
it so don't bother.

Heh, keep believing that if you like.
Many of the people who have told
you to shut up are current clients
of mine.

Read what I said again... I don't give a rat's Bass that they're
"clients" or not. What I said was that NO ONE IN CHA *EVER* RECOMMENDS
YOUR "SERVICES".

Indeed.

Yep... They're wise to your cons.

 

[Robert L Bass]

He really should take you to court for libel.

That would be fun.

 

[Frank Olson]

That would be fun.

He already told me you've pretty much made yourself "judgment proof" so
what would be the point?

 

[Jim]

You're lying again.

Prove it.  How did he go "real life" with you?  If you say he ran a
"credit check" on you, you're lying (again).

Actually, his personal information is online at the Texas government website.  I never repeated anything he told me about himself
outside this newsgroup.

Bullshit.  The information on the Texas website only lists his current
address, employer, and birth date.

However, he has told several others (including you) the exact same things as he told me about his
alcoholism, drug addiction and his mental disease (agoraphobia / panic disorder).

You're a lying sack of shit, Bass.  He never told me anything like that.
  We joked about the fact that he'd had a couple but that certainly
shouldn't stigmatize him as an alcoholic.  Go ahead and dance around all
you want.  He has no "drug addiction or mental disorder".  You've taken
things he's said "out of context" and twisted them around.  You're a
malicious, malodorous son-of-a-bitch.

He told at least four people

Are they also "nameless Boeing pilots and engineers"??

As I said earlier, he's the one who ruined his own life.

With a "little help" from you.

He has no one to blame but himself.

Nope.  He has *you* to blame for filing a false complaint.  He really
should take you to court for libel.  He's got a pretty good case.

Until he went RL it was harmless.

How'd he go "real life", Bass?

After that no holds are barred.  If he doesn't like what he got in return perhaps he'll think
twice next time he's inclined to go after someone.

You're a coward.  And stinky too.

We're all sinners.

And you rank right up there, Ebeneezer.

You stood behind him day and night making sure, eh?

Nope.  He emailed me your "evidence" as well as his employers response.
  Guess what??  He wasn't fired!  It was all a lie.

And yet they decided to fire him.

He wasn't "fired".

Care to
explain how that came to pass if you insist
there's no way he could have committed the
crime (which of course, he did)?

Like I said...  he wasn't "fired".  You've decided to put that "spin"on
it.  When are you going to "come clean", Robert??  When are you goingto
"be a man"?

You're lying (again).

Prove it.

We both know exactly
what you did because they called me right
after they got rid of your call.

Then for sure it wasn't me.  I'll bet the area code on their call
display read "Matawan".  I never identified myself or mentioned your
name.  In our ONE AND ONLY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION you even agreed that
the calls to your suppliers could have been from "anyone in the Group"
using my name.  What you've repeatedly stated wouldn't constitute
sufficient evidence and your repeating it over and over doesn't either.
  C'mon, Bassy....  PROVE IT!!

You also
boasted of having called manufacturers to
try to interfere with my accounts with them.

Prove it.  Which "manufacturers" did I "boast" I called??  There was
only one.  DSC.  And you damn well know the reason why.

The result was the same.  Money talks
and [you] walk.

Heh...  Within 23 minutes of my making that call (to DSC) the link to
your pirated software was removed.  You're a lying thief Bass.

It was false alright.  That's why they did
nothing with it.

Repeat it a few more times...  On second thought... you already believe
it so don't bother.

Heh, keep believing that if you like.
Many of the people who have told
you to shut up are current clients
of mine.

Read what I said again...  I don't give a rat's Bass that they're
"clients" or not.  What I said was that NO ONE IN CHA *EVER* RECOMMENDS
YOUR "SERVICES".

Indeed.

Yep...  They're wise to your cons.

I don't know if you're just realizing it now Frank, but it seems ( ie.
it's just speculation, but it seems to follow) that through the years,
he has accumulated such a list of proveable or at least quoteable
nasty things he's done in Usenet, that people keep calling him out on,
that he has no other basis to stand on, to form some sort of defense.
So he's got to exaggerate and make up 'unproveable' stories about
people that seem plausable to anyone who doesn't know his reputation.
I'm guessing that in some way it may make him feel justified for doing
all the things he's done. After all, to someone who doesn't know what
a bastard he is, as long as he makes up stories about the people who
point out what he is, it makes it look like every one has done things
to him and deserves to be treated badly.

I noticed this periodically in years past, but lately his
exaggerations and embellishments are reaching the point of resembling
fictional characters in a world that he's made up. It's something to
wonder about as to whether he realizes that the people who've
participated here for so long know what's true and what isn't or at
least have strong indicators.

It's possible that with death on the visable horizon, complete abandon
has no consequences for him. At this point why should he have to worry
about the aftermath of anything that he might do here or
to ....anyone?

Just something to watch for. However, one thing .......it's hard to
tell if it was being done voluntarily or involuntarily.

You'll probably pity him.

I'd tell him to **** off and hurry up and die.

 

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Not that I'm sure I can get this derailed conversation/topic back on
track, but I finally had success in ordering the Stealth Laboratories
GSM 1650 Cellular Backup (with Uplink Anynet module) unit from ADI.

I was able to get it through a local dealer for ADI who said he'd
purchase it for me. He was very nice and said he'd help me out (after
telling him my sob story on Telguard which he also said he doesn't use
(I'm seeing a pattern here) and uses Uplink instead) and sell it to me
for the exact inovice cost to him with no markup.

It was ordered last week and it should be arriving sometime this week.
I believe the exact cost will be around $300+shipping+tax (I'm told
that right now it's currently on-sale through ADI who is Steath
Laboratories main distributor.) It's really not that much more than a
basic Uplink Anynet for around $200, so it's actually not as bad as I
originally thought. This might be a good solution for others in a
similar situation as me.

I just sold my two Telguard TG-4's so I'm committed at this point to
making this wrork. I'll let everyone know how I make out with the unit
if there's anyone who's interested.

 

[Frank Olson]

Not that I'm sure I can get this derailed conversation/topic back on
track, but I finally had success in ordering the Stealth Laboratories
GSM 1650 Cellular Backup (with Uplink Anynet module) unit from ADI.

I was able to get it through a local dealer for ADI who said he'd
purchase it for me. He was very nice and said he'd help me out (after
telling him my sob story on Telguard which he also said he doesn't use
(I'm seeing a pattern here) and uses Uplink instead) and sell it to me
for the exact inovice cost to him with no markup.

It was ordered last week and it should be arriving sometime this week.
I believe the exact cost will be around $300+shipping+tax (I'm told
that right now it's currently on-sale through ADI who is Steath
Laboratories main distributor.) It's really not that much more than a
basic Uplink Anynet for around $200, so it's actually not as bad as I
originally thought. This might be a good solution for others in a
similar situation as me.

I just sold my two Telguard TG-4's so I'm committed at this point to
making this wrork. I'll let everyone know how I make out with the unit
if there's anyone who's interested.

Keep us apprised of what happens. Dealing with a reputable Dealer
"locally" is probably the best route for you on this (as I already
mentioned before the thread "wandered" off topic). I can't see someone
like Bass being able to set up a Telguard unit without providing a
monitoring contract. I'm sure there are a number of online
Stores/Dealers that are capable of doing so (that aren't restricted by
their jurisdiction to simply "selling parts").

Good Luck!!