Screw in flourescent light bulbs.

[GregS]

Peter Hucker wrote:


brittle, the danger not being fire directly, but the fitting collapsing later
on.


You really don't know anything, do you? Some fixtures hold in the
heat. The incandescents & ceramic sockets can handle the heat, but the
thermoplastic in the CFLs melt, the electrolytics overheat and they
fail, or catch on fire.

When I first started using them about 17 years ago, I thought I had
a few light fixtures that were way too hot, and I worried about that.
By using CFL's I would be usinf less electricity and the fixtures were much cooler.
If it was an incandescent fixture in the first place, they automatically
hold a fire for a very short period and suffocate it usually. I would worry
more about CFL's NOT in fixtures, I have one CFL in the front yard 24/365
and it probably gets real hot in the summer day, but so far its going without
problems. Fully air sealed anyway.

greg

 

[ian field]

So, everything there is a birdbrain?

PHucker has a *very* high opinion of his own intelligence and a very low
opinion of everyone else's.

 

[ian field]

When I first started using them about 17 years ago, I thought I had
a few light fixtures that were way too hot, and I worried about that.
By using CFL's I would be usinf less electricity and the fixtures were
much cooler.
If it was an incandescent fixture in the first place, they automatically
hold a fire for a very short period and suffocate it usually. I would
worry
more about CFL's NOT in fixtures, I have one CFL in the front yard 24/365
and it probably gets real hot in the summer day, but so far its going
without
problems. Fully air sealed anyway.

greg

PHucker was claiming that the heat from incandescent lamps can set fire to
the lampholder, I haven't heard of any such cases for a few decades. Its
been a long time since I've heard of cheap imported novelty light fittings
being set alight by the heat from a "bulb" either.

The last time I changed the hall light (to fit a CFL) the brass bayonet ring
fell out of the socket because the bakelite had become brittle with age and
heat - I leave the hall light on when I'm in except when I go to bed. There
was no evidence that it might be a fire risk.

 

[GregS]

Why do you have it on on a hot summer's day?

Cause I don't turn the switch off and on. I just leave it.
I do have parts to update my front lawn post including some spots
to illuminate some trees, and they will have a photo switch. I hope
the switch works on CFL's. I was going to check if this switch used a relay.

greg

 

[GregS]

I don't need to illuminate my front lawn, there's a bloody streetlamp there!

When I eventually get round to building the pond and lighting it, I may have to
black out that side of the streetlamp (it's the old hemispherical dome
variety).

The trouble with street lights, only 10% of the light hits the street.
The rest just blinds you.

greg

 

[ian field]

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.

You must come from a large family then.

 

[ian field]

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[GregS]

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.

I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

greg

 

[GregS]

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.

Less than 1.5 inch square, but it on a copper pad, on top a peltier, on top an aluminum
sink with a fan.


greg

 

[GregS]

Less than 1.5 inch square, but it on a copper pad, on top a peltier, on top an
aluminum
sink with a fan.

Here are some not so bright. I think these are 10 watts or less.

http://zekfrivolous.com/pics/leds/gallery_photo-large_image-694.jpg

greg

 

[ian field]

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?

We don't want to know about your perversions!

 

[ian field]

Well, we don't have to worry about any of your bright ideas setting
the world on fire. For someone who claims to have a honors degree in
Physuics, you don't know anything. Do you ever cook anything, or do you
live on birdseed?

He microwaves a readymeal.

 

[ian field]

You said that I have no sense of humor. How can it be deteriorating?
You haven't read any of my comedy Sci-Fi writing, so what do you know?

From what I've seen PHucker has an opinion about everything and knowledge of
nothing.

 

[ian field]

Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.




I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.




WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?

Its a European term - e.g. egg laying chickens kept in tiny compartments so
small they can't even turn round!

 

[ian field]

You said: " I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.",
so you are either quite ignorant, or just another liar.

PHucker frequently get confused about something he or someone else has said,
then gets in an argument with anyone who corrects him.

 

[ian field]

Do they still do that? It isn't common in the US.

http://www.downthelane.net/battery.html

We are led to believe that animal welfare legislation in the UK is more
stringent than in mainland Europe.

 

[ian field]

Then leave them in Africa or South America where they belong.




Yes, they come from free range chickens. Rather gamy tasting
critters. You get on an international newsgroup, then blather on in
British slang, then throw a hissy fit when someone questions you.
Pathetic. Are you sure you aren't French?

He claims to be 1/4 Swedish.

 

[ian field]

It's to garner attention/troll. I've seen Peter post on the upwards of
400 times a day. I don't know him but one could assume that someone
with that much time to spend on a PC could be severely disabled and
only be able to communicate over the internet with a diverse group of
people.

He claims to be in full time employment as tech support in a computer firm
or some such, I've seen him post on 24hoursupport.helpdesk - but only to
make silly comments, never to help anyone.

If you've noticed the petersparrots.com in his sig file, that's because he
breeds and sells parrots (probably on the black).

On alt.binaries.chatter he frequently goes on about the flash car he has and
braggs about what pride he takes in his appalling driving - routinely
running red lights and speeding whenever his satnav said no speed cameras,
at one point he was openly bragging about speeding in a car with defective
ABS, which he'd taken the bulb out of the warning light to scam it through
the MOT test.

All said and done, I'll concede he might be not well in the head.

 

[ian field]

He acts like a meatball.

He lives in Scotland and just loves being teased about kilts (skirt).

 

[krw]

Its not a kilt when you add pantyhose and stilletos.

Real Scotsmen don't wear thongs either.