Saw spider crawl into control box!

[Bill]

I was wiring up my control box and watched a spider crawl down the wall,
through a hole in top of the metal case, then behind the circuit board.

I know that insects have caused problems with computers. Actually this is
where the term "computer bug" first originated. There was a bug crawling
around on the circuit boards which was causing a computer to crash again and
again. The solution was to put screen over the air vents so insects could
not get inside.

So I plan to do the same with my control box. Glue fine mesh screen around
the sides/top/bottom. Then it will have ventilation, but keep the bugs out.

Anyone know of any problems with insects crawling around on control unit
circuit boards? Perhaps this is the cause of some unexplained false alarms?

 

[Jim Rojas]

Spiders and other small insects cause problems when they get inside motion
detectors. I have seen huge colonies of roaches & ants inside many alarm
panels here in Florida, with no ill affects. I use silicone to seal the
motions and panel entry holes.

Jim Rojas

 

[Crash Gordon]

I've had bugs in panels, usually very dead.

The worst one was a very dead, and very big scorpion. Scared the crap outta
me when I opened the box.
Whaddya gonna do? Seal up the hole in the wall where the wires come through?
How? What if you need to service them.

Personally I wouldn't bother...maybe put a mothball in the panel...or carry
a vacuum cleaner.


|I was wiring up my control box and watched a spider crawl down the wall,
| through a hole in top of the metal case, then behind the circuit board.
|
| I know that insects have caused problems with computers. Actually this is
| where the term "computer bug" first originated. There was a bug crawling
| around on the circuit boards which was causing a computer to crash again
and
| again. The solution was to put screen over the air vents so insects could
| not get inside.
|
| So I plan to do the same with my control box. Glue fine mesh screen around
| the sides/top/bottom. Then it will have ventilation, but keep the bugs
out.
|
| Anyone know of any problems with insects crawling around on control unit
| circuit boards? Perhaps this is the cause of some unexplained false
alarms?
|
|

 

[Robertm]

The worst one was a very dead, and very big scorpion. Scared the crap
outta
me when I opened the box.

When I lived in Arizona, I soon encountered both dead and live scorpions
and tarantulas in the house. I bought Raid Fumigators and fogged the place
once a month. End of problem. Smoke detectors must be disabled during
fogging for about three hours. Fogging seeps into the walls through cracks
and holes, so after about three months you won't see much of anything in the
house. The biggest danger in AZ is the brown recluse. Did you ever see a
bite from one of those? Nasty. I hear Yuma is a hotbed for the black widow.
I'm sure glad I'm out of AZ. When I moved back east it took me six months to
break the habit of checking the doorframe in the morning for scorpions and
checking the steps for rattlesnakes before leaving for work.

Bob

 

[Crash Gordon]

eh...you just learn to step over/around them

brown recluse bites rot...very nasty.

black widders don't bother me too much as they're not aggressive like
scorpions are. I was out in the garage a couple of nights ago, I keep old
canceled accounts and local files out there, while I was looking through the
file cabinet I caught a glimpse of something black hanging down from the
garage door frame...above my head...big mama black widder. Grabbed a can of
WD-40..that was the closest thing...killed her dead. Have you ever squished
a pregnant black widder?...holy shit...thousands of babies jump out...wierd.



|
| |
| > The worst one was a very dead, and very big scorpion. Scared the crap
| > outta
| > me when I opened the box.
|
| When I lived in Arizona, I soon encountered both dead and live
scorpions
| and tarantulas in the house. I bought Raid Fumigators and fogged the place
| once a month. End of problem. Smoke detectors must be disabled during
| fogging for about three hours. Fogging seeps into the walls through cracks
| and holes, so after about three months you won't see much of anything in
the
| house. The biggest danger in AZ is the brown recluse. Did you ever see a
| bite from one of those? Nasty. I hear Yuma is a hotbed for the black
widow.
| I'm sure glad I'm out of AZ. When I moved back east it took me six months
to
| break the habit of checking the doorframe in the morning for scorpions and
| checking the steps for rattlesnakes before leaving for work.
|
| Bob
|
|
|

 

[Robertm]

eh...you just learn to step over/around them

brown recluse bites rot...very nasty.

black widders don't bother me too much as they're not aggressive like
scorpions are. I was out in the garage a couple of nights ago, I keep old
canceled accounts and local files out there, while I was looking through
the
file cabinet I caught a glimpse of something black hanging down from the
garage door frame...above my head...big mama black widder. Grabbed a can
of
WD-40..that was the closest thing...killed her dead. Have you ever
squished
a pregnant black widder?...holy shit...thousands of babies jump
out...wierd.

Yep, and every one of those thousands you have to track down and kill or
they'll come back to get you. We have the brown recluse here in Tennessee,
too. A six year old boy near Nashville was bitten by one a couple of months
ago and died. His mom brought him to the ER and told them the kid had been
bitten by a spider. The doc said no, it was just a cold or flu. Two days
later the kid was dead. Such is the medical industry these days. So, if you
get bit, better find a doc across the border in Mexico. When I worked there,
people said the medical care there is far superior to that in the U.S.

Bob

 

[Crash Gordon]

Pretty stupid ER...what a shame.


|
| | > eh...you just learn to step over/around them
| >
| > brown recluse bites rot...very nasty.
| >
| > black widders don't bother me too much as they're not aggressive like
| > scorpions are. I was out in the garage a couple of nights ago, I keep
old
| > canceled accounts and local files out there, while I was looking through
| > the
| > file cabinet I caught a glimpse of something black hanging down from the
| > garage door frame...above my head...big mama black widder. Grabbed a can
| > of
| > WD-40..that was the closest thing...killed her dead. Have you ever
| > squished
| > a pregnant black widder?...holy shit...thousands of babies jump
| > out...wierd.
| >
| Yep, and every one of those thousands you have to track down and kill or
| they'll come back to get you. We have the brown recluse here in Tennessee,
| too. A six year old boy near Nashville was bitten by one a couple of
months
| ago and died. His mom brought him to the ER and told them the kid had been
| bitten by a spider. The doc said no, it was just a cold or flu. Two days
| later the kid was dead. Such is the medical industry these days. So, if
you
| get bit, better find a doc across the border in Mexico. When I worked
there,
| people said the medical care there is far superior to that in the U.S.
|
| Bob
|
|

 

[Stanley Barthfarkle]

Screen mesh is a good idea- Never completely seal a control panel, since the
battery vents small amounts of hydrogen gas when charging.

 

[Crash Gordon]

I took a 15 year old Yuasa out of neglected panel a few months back...sides
of it bulged out so much it deformed the panel door, it was just lead
pebbles inside battery...made noise like a rattle. Radx 6112 still
running!...a little warm but still worked.



| Screen mesh is a good idea- Never completely seal a control panel, since
the
| battery vents small amounts of hydrogen gas when charging.
|
|
| | >I was wiring up my control box and watched a spider crawl down the wall,
| > through a hole in top of the metal case, then behind the circuit board.
| >
| > I know that insects have caused problems with computers. Actually this
is
| > where the term "computer bug" first originated. There was a bug crawling
| > around on the circuit boards which was causing a computer to crash again
| > and
| > again. The solution was to put screen over the air vents so insects
could
| > not get inside.
| >
| > So I plan to do the same with my control box. Glue fine mesh screen
around
| > the sides/top/bottom. Then it will have ventilation, but keep the bugs
| > out.
| >
| > Anyone know of any problems with insects crawling around on control unit
| > circuit boards? Perhaps this is the cause of some unexplained false
| > alarms?
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Frank Olson]

I've had bugs in panels, usually very dead.

The worst one was a very dead, and very big scorpion. Scared the crap
outta
me when I opened the box.
Whaddya gonna do? Seal up the hole in the wall where the wires come
through?
How? What if you need to service them.

Personally I wouldn't bother...maybe put a mothball in the panel...or
carry
a vacuum cleaner.

Scorpions are one reason why I like living in BC... There are none here.
No Black "Widders" or Brown Recluses either. We just have to contend with
"Hobo" spiders.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Yah, but you also got that funny white stuff on the ground..right?


message |
| | > I've had bugs in panels, usually very dead.
| >
| > The worst one was a very dead, and very big scorpion. Scared the crap
| > outta
| > me when I opened the box.
| > Whaddya gonna do? Seal up the hole in the wall where the wires come
| > through?
| > How? What if you need to service them.
| >
| > Personally I wouldn't bother...maybe put a mothball in the panel...or
| > carry
| > a vacuum cleaner.
|
|
| Scorpions are one reason why I like living in BC... There are none here.
| No Black "Widders" or Brown Recluses either. We just have to contend with
| "Hobo" spiders.
|
|
|

 

[Frank Olson]

Yah, but you also got that funny white stuff on the ground..right?

Yeah... but then we strap a coupla well waxed two-by-fours to our feet and
it's "yeeee-hawww"!

 

[Crash Gordon]

fall down, go boom, ouchie.

actually i used to be a quite good skier...then i got old and much lazy and
get my thrills in my Mootang GT.


message |
| | > Yah, but you also got that funny white stuff on the ground..right?
|
|
| Yeah... but then we strap a coupla well waxed two-by-fours to our feet
and
| it's "yeeee-hawww"!
|
|
|

 

[Frank Olson]

fall down, go boom, ouchie.

actually i used to be a quite good skier...then i got old and much lazy
and
get my thrills in my Mootang GT.

Ford => Yuck!!! I'll take my '68 Skylark any day. 455 cid. 4" header
dump that's activated by pulling out the ash-tray... "sweet" ride. Sucks
gas by the barrel though... I call her my "Camaro Killer". She was the
family car until I bought her off my Mom. Had a 350 long block in her and a
two speed slush box. Nice car to work on. Absolutely *no* anti-pollution
garbage anywhere. And no "dang" computer controlling dwell, spark, timing,
etc. )

 

[Crash Gordon]

My old 66 Ford Falcon straight six convertable was cool too...I could get
that baby up to 85 or so with a tail wind. I was really fun to get it up to
40 or so then throw it into reverse just before I'd pull into our
driveway...just to hear dad curse from inside the house

Ahhhhh teenagers!


message |
| | > fall down, go boom, ouchie.
| >
| > actually i used to be a quite good skier...then i got old and much lazy
| > and
| > get my thrills in my Mootang GT.
|
|
| Ford => Yuck!!! I'll take my '68 Skylark any day. 455 cid. 4" header
| dump that's activated by pulling out the ash-tray... "sweet" ride. Sucks
| gas by the barrel though... I call her my "Camaro Killer". She was the
| family car until I bought her off my Mom. Had a 350 long block in her and
a
| two speed slush box. Nice car to work on. Absolutely *no* anti-pollution
| garbage anywhere. And no "dang" computer controlling dwell, spark,
timing,
| etc. )
|
|

 

[Frank Olson]

My old 66 Ford Falcon straight six convertable was cool too...I could get
that baby up to 85 or so with a tail wind. I was really fun to get it up
to
40 or so then throw it into reverse just before I'd pull into our
driveway...just to hear dad curse from inside the house

Ahhhhh teenagers!

Don't it make ya wish you coulda hung on to her, though?? Them cars from
the 60's sure do rock... I know a couple of guys with '64.5 Mustangs (one's
a customer of ours). Real "cherries". What year's your 'Stang??

 

[Robert L Bass]

fall down, go boom, ouchie.

Take a few lessons and things get much better. There are very few things as
thrilling as making first tracks in deep powder.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34231
941-925-9747 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[Crash Gordon]

That stupid old 6 Falcon ( I used to call it a Ferd Falcar) goes for about
16K now. My

Mootang is a '00 GT, 5 spd with 17" Eagles...pretty dang quick for being
basically stock...a lotta bang for the buck. I didn't drive it much the
first 3 years I had her so she's only got 38K miles on. I gotta buy a new
truck soon though :-(....I was thinkin maybe I can get Jesse James to make
my Stang into a pickup truck?! Wouldn't that be a cool company vehicle?
Fastest service truck in the area!




message |
| | > My old 66 Ford Falcon straight six convertable was cool too...I could
get
| > that baby up to 85 or so with a tail wind. I was really fun to get it up
| > to
| > 40 or so then throw it into reverse just before I'd pull into our
| > driveway...just to hear dad curse from inside the house
| >
| > Ahhhhh teenagers!
|
|
| Don't it make ya wish you coulda hung on to her, though?? Them cars from
| the 60's sure do rock... I know a couple of guys with '64.5 Mustangs
(one's
| a customer of ours). Real "cherries". What year's your 'Stang??
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon]

I was expert in my younger days. I know how, just the body aint willing
these days.



|> fall down, go boom, ouchie.
|
| Take a few lessons and things get much better. There are very few things
as
| thrilling as making first tracks in deep powder.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| =============================>
| Bass Home Electronics
| 2291 Pine View Circle
| Sarasota · Florida · 34231
| 941-925-9747 Sales & Tech Support
| http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
| =============================>
|
|

 

[petem]

"Robert L Ass" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de [email protected]...

Take a few lessons and things get much better.

you never learned anything from any lesson here..