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Stephany Alexander

Phil said:
"LSMFT"

** Nope.

But it will take proportionally longer to charge as the mAh rating goes up.

BTW:

Who makes 4000mAh Ni-Cds in C size ??


.... Phil
Just because you don't know who makes them doesn't mean they don't exist.

You can also say, "Nobody pounded their pud at the Post Office" but that
doesn't mean that Sitre Magana wasn't caught beating off at the Post Office.
 
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LSMFT

When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them
with 2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt
the drill?




--
LSMFT


Force shits upon the Back of Reason...
Ben Franklin-
 
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Phil Allison

"LSMFT"
When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them with
2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt the
drill?

** Nope.

But it will take proportionally longer to charge as the mAh rating goes up.

BTW:

Who makes 4000mAh Ni-Cds in C size ??


..... Phil
 
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Phil Allison

"Stephany Alexander"
Just because you don't know who makes them doesn't mean they don't exist.


** Giant HUH ????????

I already found that Sanyo make 3600mAh Ni-Cd cells in C size.

Fast charge types too - very cool cells.



...... Phil
 
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Meat Plow

When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them
with 2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt
the drill?

Better question, will it charge with the stock charger.
 
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William Sommerwerck

When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads
Better question, will it charge with the stock charger?

It should, unless the stock charger /required/ special cells for rapid
charge, or some other condition.

Using NiMH cells should eliminate any problem, as they (generally) tolerate
rapid charging. I used regular NiMH cells for a Polaroid #365 electronic
flash, and the #363 rapid charger handles them fine, even though it was
designed for rapid-charge nicads.
 
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Mike Cook

When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them
with 2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt
the drill?

I'd read somewhere that as mA rating goes up for a given cell size the
insulators get thinner and the battery is more at risk from heat (during
charge and discharge) than lower mA cells.

Someone more knowledgeable re. battery chemistry can probably answer here or
at

sci.chem.electrochem.battery

Good luck.
 
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Meat Plow

It should, unless the stock charger /required/ special cells for rapid
charge, or some other condition.

Using NiMH cells should eliminate any problem, as they (generally)
tolerate rapid charging. I used regular NiMH cells for a Polaroid #365
electronic flash, and the #363 rapid charger handles them fine, even
though it was designed for rapid-charge nicads.

I'd be cautious of the charger meeting the requirements of 2300 mAh cells
without it struggling.

Been dealing with these issues for many years in battery packs for my
handy talkies. I have a spare 7.2v 1400 mAh pack for my Vertex FT-60.
It won't charge slow but drop it in the rapid charger and it charges just
fine. Doesn't make much sense. I own a Maha multi charger that uses a
temp probe placed on the cells to help decide the charge.

I switched to all NMiH AAA cells for our keyboards/mice hand held GPS
etc.. Two chargers ant 4 packs of 2300 mAh cells. Smartest thing I've
done in awhile.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Using NiMH cells should eliminate any problem, as they (generally)
I'd be cautious of the charger meeting the requirements of 2300 mAh
cells without it struggling.

The charger doesn't "know" the cell's capacity. It just pumps current into
it. The better class of chargers shuts off when a particular cell voltage
(and/or some other condition) has been reached.

Been dealing with these issues for many years in battery packs for my
handy talkies. I have a spare 7.2v 1400 mAh pack for my Vertex FT-60.
It won't charge slow but drop it in the rapid charger and it charges just
fine. Doesn't make much sense. I own a Maha multi charger that uses
a temp probe placed on the cells to help decide the charge.

I have two MAHA C9000 chargers. I wish they'd been available 40 years ago.
 
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Meat Plow

The charger doesn't "know" the cell's capacity. It just pumps current
into it. The better class of chargers shuts off when a particular cell
voltage (and/or some other condition) has been reached.

If it's just a brainless charge that's correct.
I have two MAHA C9000 chargers. I wish they'd been available 40 years
ago.

Forget the model of mine. It was a model probably circa 1996 because AES
had just started to advertise their products. It wasn't something to just
pop 4 AAA cells into. It could charge several different styles. I don't
use it these days since I've bought drop in rapid chargers. It's at my
office in the basement with the rest of my junk or I'd give the model.
 
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William Sommerwerck

The charger doesn't "know" the cell's capacity. It just
If it's just a brainless charge, that's correct.

I'm so accustomed to 0.1C charging that I rarely set the C9000 for greater
than 0.3C -- even though 0.5C charges are /recommened/ by MAHA for its own
cells. I'm afraid of overheating the cells.

The C9000 can do a lot of useful stuff -- break in new cells, rejuvenate old
cells (supposedly), and measure cell capacity. The latter is useful for
assembling packs with closely matched cells. You should also check capacity
when you buy cells, as they're sometimes out of spec. (MAHA says the
tolerance is +/- 10% of the rated value. MAHA will replace low-capacity
cells.)
 
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Sitre Josephenne Magana

LSMFT said:
When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them
with 2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt
the drill?
Nope. My friend Ryan Morris tells me that if you replace it with 4000mAh
cells, you will giving it 4000mA when it was only designed to take 1300mA.
 
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Spamm Trappe

Nope. My friend Ryan Morris tells me that if you replace it with 4000mAh
cells, you will giving it 4000mA when it was only designed to take 1300mA.

You need to get a new friend....
 
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LSMFT

Phil said:
"Stephany Alexander"


** Giant HUH ????????

I already found that Sanyo make 3600mAh Ni-Cd cells in C size.

Fast charge types too - very cool cells.



..... Phil
NIMH RECHARGEABLE C-CELL -- 5000 MAH
High-capacity 5000 mAh rechargeable nickel-metal hydride C-cell. 1.2V.
26mm diameter x 50mm long. Standard charge, 16 Hours @ 300mA. Rapid
charge, 2 Hours @ 3000 mA.
Read more
CAT# NMH-C
$5.65 each

This is at All Electronics online catalog.

--
LSMFT


Force shits upon the Back of Reason...
Ben Franklin-
 
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Phil Allison

"LSMFT"
Phil said:
NIMH RECHARGEABLE C-CELL -- 5000 MAH
High-capacity 5000 mAh rechargeable nickel-metal hydride C-cell.


** Shame that ain't a Ni-Cd cell.......

NiMH cells have up to 4 times the capacity of Ni-Cds, at least in AA size.


...... Phil
 
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Phoena

Nope. My friend Ryan Morris tells me that if you replace it with 4000mAh
cells, you will giving it 4000mA when it was only designed to take 1300mA.


Ryan Morris ain't your friend. As a matter of fact, he banned you from
his website for posting stupid gas ass shit on his forums.

What's Next, You're going to claim that Dennis the weight trainer is
your best friend even though you kicked his knee and he punched your fat
face like 4 times and knocked you out?
 
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