RE Bigpond news server

[atec77]

Maybee they are doing it to see how many complaints are generated before
switching it off.

That's a possibility

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[Feral]

Rubbish.

Given that there was *no* competition in the PMG's day whatsoever, how
do you qualify such a ridiculous statement?

I was dishing it out, Bighead, know-nothing.


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[Feral]

Also there were no mobiles or internet and a lot fewer landlines so its
possible service was better but there is no real comparison to now.
In the 50's my parents had the only phone in our immediate area so not
many phones to go wrong.

And they were *subscribers*, not *customers* and everything got fixed
promptly and free. By me.

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[Feral]

OTC trainee technicians used the DCA school for the first couple of
years [due the basic electronics being taught], then they switched to
dedicated OTC curriculum for the final 2 or 3 years..

Us older bastards still have good memory eh! ;-)


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[Feral]

In 1983 PMG [or wot ever they were called then] took 5 weeks to
install a home-phone. They dug a trench diagonally across my front
yard. Failed to fill it properly, so I got bogged in my own frontyard
with the 1800

1. Telecom Australia (corporation).

2. That would be the Line Division (gorilla force), not the Technical
Division that put in the tank trap. Serves you right for buying
pommie rubbish anyway.


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[Noddy]

Maybee they are doing it to see how many complaints are generated before
switching it off.

Why would they care?

 

[Noddy]

I use eternal september but it does not list some of the things that
telstra did.

It doesn't do Binaries if I remember correctly, so if you're looking for
those you'll have to subscribe to a news server that does. Either that
or change your ISP, but given that Usenet is close to dead these days
anyway I would doubt if any of them would carry a feed within 12 months.

 

[Noddy]

Also there were no mobiles or internet and a lot fewer landlines so its
possible service was better but there is no real comparison to now.

Without any competition to measure against you can't tell if the service
was good or not. It just *was*.

In the 50's my parents had the only phone in our immediate area so not
many phones to go wrong.

They used to do some dumb shit in those days too though, like tell you
that you could only have your phone in a certain part of the house and
make you wait 37 years for a connection.

 

[Noddy]

In 1983 PMG [or wot ever they were called then] took 5 weeks to
install a home-phone. They dug a trench diagonally across my front
yard. Failed to fill it properly, so I got bogged in my own frontyard
with the 1800

That was the height of their "good service". Whenever a new housing
estate was opened up they wouldn't waste money running in new phone
cables as a matter of course. They'd wait until the houses were built
and people moved in and applied for a connection so they could come out
and rip the shit out of all the brand new roads and footpaths.

Oh yeah. Great service

 

[Noddy]

And they were *subscribers*, not *customers* and everything got fixed
promptly and free. By me.

Let go and let some blood flow through before it drops off.

 

[Noddy]

I was dishing it out, Bighead, know-nothing.

English is new to you, huh?

 

[Noddy]

Just spent an hour on the phone with tech services, even with him
connecting remotely with my computer so he could see connection with
eternal sept working and bigpond not,got nowhere. Am getting call back
tomorrow from case manager from my long running case number (she was not
there today)

May the force be with you. One of my case managers left the company and
no one knew anything about it for three months.

 

[Jasen Betts]

pinged from here and got

ping statistics for 61.9.134.55:
packets: sent = 4, received = 0, lost = 4 (100% loss)

ping won't tell you much. a server can be up an not respond to pings.

run a traceroute, on port 119 if possible.

when I do it I get as far as
bundle-ether1.win18.melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.114)
and then appear to hit a firewall, but I'm not on a telstra network so
that's no surprise.

 

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Was there a time when it did?

Back when it was Telecom, perhaps, but definitely when it was just a
part of the PMG.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

 

[D Walford]

Also there were no mobiles or internet and a lot fewer landlines so its
possible service was better but there is no real comparison to now.
In the 50's my parents had the only phone in our immediate area so not
many phones to go wrong.

In 1983 PMG [or wot ever they were called then] took 5 weeks to
install a home-phone. They dug a trench diagonally across my front
yard. Failed to fill it properly, so I got bogged in my own frontyard
with the 1800

From memory we ordered our land line before the house was finished so
didn't have to wait long after we moved in, that was Dec 1978 and we
still have the same phone number.


Daryl

 

[Blue Heeler]

Noddy wrote:

Their left hand has no fucking idea what their right hand is doing....

I went back to work yesterday to help with the move to new offices.

Telstra have known, as in have had work orders, to relocate 4 dual
channel ISDN lines for nearly 3 months, along with one "Pots" line that
provides DSL internet access and also serves as the fax line.

Guess what, the Telstra Tech, who arrived onsite 2 hours late, knew
nothing about ISDN provisioning other than a vague understanding of how
to plug them in and then connect his junior woodchuck "go-no/go" tester
to them. Eventually I took pity on him and explained that the as the
network termination unit had a rock solid "connect" indication and as
his junior wood chuck ISDN test tool likewise showed a perfect system,
that perhaps if he whipped out his laptop and programmed the NTUs
correctly, we would have a telephone service. I even recalled that
there is a way to program them using a plain jane phone, but I must
admit the fine detail of how to do that escapes me now. He looked at me
blankly and said that the guy in the test centre would program them -
funny that, until they are set to terminate the correct number, the
test centre cannot see them.

Anyway, no phones for us until at least tomorrow when his boss, who
apparently knows about such things, will be able to attend to setting
up the NTUs correctly. Silly prick couldn't understand why I was pissed
with him - it isn't rocket science.

I was also pissed with him because whilst the silly bastard actually
managed to get the POTS line for the fax working, unfortunately there
was no DSL provisioning arranged, so no Intenet till next week.

Mind you, when I rang our "customer contact person" to ask why 3 months
was not enough time to get their shit together, he at least did
organise a wireless router, configured for our fixed IP to be delivered
within 30 minutes, Yay, we have email and bog slow internet......God
help us when we get sent a few 20meg file attachments.

On the other hand, the private company engaged to install the new PABX
were onsite exactly on time, unboxed the gear, plugged it in and had it
tested to the extent they could with no NTUs active in 90 minutes.




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[Noddy]

Guess what, the Telstra Tech, who arrived onsite 2 hours late, knew
nothing about ISDN provisioning other than a vague understanding of how
to plug them in and then connect his junior woodchuck "go-no/go" tester
to them. Eventually I took pity on him and explained that the as the
network termination unit had a rock solid "connect" indication and as
his junior wood chuck ISDN test tool likewise showed a perfect system,
that perhaps if he whipped out his laptop and programmed the NTUs
correctly, we would have a telephone service. I even recalled that
there is a way to program them using a plain jane phone, but I must
admit the fine detail of how to do that escapes me now. He looked at me
blankly and said that the guy in the test centre would program them -
funny that, until they are set to terminate the correct number, the
test centre cannot see them.
Staggering.

Anyway, no phones for us until at least tomorrow when his boss, who
apparently knows about such things, will be able to attend to setting
up the NTUs correctly. Silly prick couldn't understand why I was pissed
with him - it isn't rocket science.

It is to him apparently

I was also pissed with him because whilst the silly bastard actually
managed to get the POTS line for the fax working, unfortunately there
was no DSL provisioning arranged, so no Intenet till next week.
Grouse.

Mind you, when I rang our "customer contact person" to ask why 3 months
was not enough time to get their shit together, he at least did
organise a wireless router, configured for our fixed IP to be delivered
within 30 minutes, Yay, we have email and bog slow internet......God
help us when we get sent a few 20meg file attachments.

Heh

On the other hand, the private company engaged to install the new PABX
were onsite exactly on time, unboxed the gear, plugged it in and had it
tested to the extent they could with no NTUs active in 90 minutes.

Makes you wonder that if they put half as much time and money into
getting their shit together as they do with TV and radio advertisements
telling us how great they are, then *maybe* they might actually start
acting like a legitimate communications company and do their fucking
jobs rather than looking like a sheltered workshop that runs basket
weaving programs to keep the window lickers occupied.

 

[Feral]

So you're the **** who trampled my roses in 1979. I'm still waiting for
you to come back and apologize as the complaints dept said you would

Those who grow roses are usually prickly pricks.

Were you residing in the Riverina area in '79?

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[G S ng]

Hey All,

Yes, it seems there are some issues with news.bigpond.com.

I had used it exclusively through outlook express / Windows live mail since
the mid 90's, mainly for text newsgroup "forums" & the occasional binary
download.....

It had become notoriously unreliable in the past 12 months or so, and after
some frustrating phone calls with numerous Telstra "techs" I finally got on
to a fellow who knew what the hell I was talking about who was a great help
in getting the service going again (He has now moved on)

Then for last few months where the service strangely started alternating
between working on my work comp -(W7 - WLM) and home Computer - (XP - OLE) -
Yes, it would work on one comp, but not the other ... very strange...

Until now, when it doesn't work at all on either machine

I have now changed to a free server : news.aioe.org which I believe does not
support binaries and is apparently slow, but as I only browse a few text
based newsgroup "forums" these days, it seems to suit my need, and works on
both machines...

Cheers,

Gary

Brisbane Queensland Australia


"atec77" wrote in message

Well it's a long time since I could afford Telstra, but the service once
was
far better than anything I've ever had from Optus or Vodaphone :-(



That's what John Howard gave us :-( Now we get to spend more taxpayer
money
to upgrade the network than it was sold for. Lost the $5B every year they
were getting in revenue *after* network upgrade costs. Seen a triplication
of networks at great expense, a loss of a hundred thousand jobs in Telstra
and support industries, and the customer service has gotten worse.
Unfortunately the government can't "fix" it now, even with an NBN.

Trevor.

You really are a fckwitt , we all know JH's response was to solve the
massive debt Keating created , another labor fskup

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[Feral]

no but weren't you everywhere according to "and everything got fixed
promptly and free. By me. "

Ahah - a picky, prickly prick.


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