'Ratbag' engineers make NBN kill switch unlikely:

[atec77]

The Government's second phase would be to legislate against the use of
the Internet, probably on the grounds of National Security or such like.
Find a few geeks who bypassed the kill switch and string them up as an
example. Fear is an effective non-technical strategy.

The point is by cutting the external link the internal may well continue
, o course everyone had ignored the satellite links and other conection
mediums etc etc , closing the net aint that easy here in Au in spite
what goolia would have us believe

 

[atec77]

And how hard is to block the phone calls. In 60's and 70's I've seen
whole country with STD and international calls disabled for weeks at a
time during unrests...

Tom

I remember little boxen with buttons and the pressure not to use the
telephone system for information collection , there might be sush a
situation but here in Au I don't see it happening anytime soon

 

[Rod Speed]

Tom wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Not first world but if the technology was avaiable back then behind the iron curtain imagine what can be done now.

How odd that no one actually uses it when the shit hits the fan like in Libya or Egypt or Iran or China.

 

[terryc]

And how hard is to block the phone calls. In 60's and 70's I've seen
whole country with STD and international calls disabled for weeks at a
time during unrests...

Sat phones?
It would be very hard to do now as so much of the economy depends on
instant global comms.

 

[Jasen Betts]

That was how Fidonet(worldwide BBS system) operated.
It is just a matter of who has modems and software salted away.

IIRC binkd will do fido run over raw dialup but it's provavly easier to
just run PPP or SLIP over the link and share the internet that way

 

[terryc]

IIRC binkd will do fido run over raw dialup but it's provavly easier to
just run PPP or SLIP over the link and share the internet that way

It isn't about recreating the internet, but an alternative
message/information passing service. It will only work if people stick
to text messages. seriously, who wants to wait 24 hours for some web
pages to download over dialup.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Jasen Betts wrote

It isn't about recreating the internet, but an alternative
message/information passing service. It will only work if people stick to text messages.

Wrong. The net works fine over dialup.

seriously, who wants to wait 24 hours for some web pages to download over dialup.

None of them take anything like that long.

 

[SG1]

terryc wrote


Wrong. The net works fine over dialup.


None of them take anything like that long.

It was sarcasm Roddles???????

 

[terryc]

Wrong. The net works fine over dialup.

I know, I hosted mine over dialup for about five years.
It was always rated extremely fast.

None of them take anything like that long.

You have tested them all on dialup?

 

[Rod Speed]

It was sarcasm Roddles???????

So was mine, fuckwit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Don McKenzie]

SG1 wrote:

So was mine, fuckwit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My first dial up was a PMG 300 baud job that was 6 inches by 3 inches by 3 feet, painted grey, and would take 24 hours
to download any of todays web pages. But then, it wasn't designed for windows. Perhaps I better see if it still around,
as a backup for nuke or other attacks. It was used to dial into Microchips (PIC) first BBS. This was in the days when
they provided a line to the US, for the price of a local OZ call.

I would really doubt that I could find any other old dial ups around here, well, apart from a 56K USB unit that I should
be able to resurrect, now that I think about it. That will do the job. I would have to find the driver of course.

Cheers Don...

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[Rod Speed]

Don McKenzie wrote

Rod Speed wrote

My first dial up was a PMG 300 baud job that was 6 inches by 3 inches by 3 feet, painted grey,

Mine was a 110 baud, not as long as that.

and would take 24 hours to download any of todays web pages.

Nope. Plenty wouldnt even take 15 mins.

But then, it wasn't designed for windows. Perhaps I better see if it still around, as a backup for nuke or other
attacks.

Makes more sense to use a much faster modern one instead.

It was used to dial into Microchips (PIC) first BBS. This was in the days when they provided a line to the US, for the
price of a local OZ call.

I would really doubt that I could find any other old dial ups around here, well, apart from a 56K USB unit that I
should be able to resurrect, now that I think about it.

I still have one connected, and another in one of the laptops.

I use it when the DSL stops very occassionally, like every couple of years.

That will do the job. I would have to find the driver of course.

I dont have to do a thing, just click on the icon.

 

[terryc]

Makes more sense to use a much faster modern one instead.

In theory. Line quality is a big factor. sometimes, slower speeds have
consistently higher throughput.

 

[atec77]

My first dial up was a PMG 300 baud job that was 6 inches by 3 inches by
3 feet, painted grey, and would take 24 hours to download any of todays
web pages. But then, it wasn't designed for windows. Perhaps I better
see if it still around, as a backup for nuke or other attacks. It was
used to dial into Microchips (PIC) first BBS. This was in the days when
they provided a line to the US, for the price of a local OZ call.

I would really doubt that I could find any other old dial ups around
here, well, apart from a 56K USB unit that I should be able to
resurrect, now that I think about it. That will do the job. I would have
to find the driver of course.

Cheers Don...

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I just have to hook my lappy up and off we go on the internal modem

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

I know, I hosted mine over dialup for about five years.
It was always rated extremely fast.

You have tested them all on dialup?

Dont need to, its basic arithmetic.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

In theory.

In practice.

Line quality is a big factor.

Nope, a relatively minor factor.

sometimes, slower speeds have consistently higher throughput.

Not that slow it doesnt.

 

[terryc]

Not that slow it doesnt.

Shrug, once again Roddles reality trumps our reality.

 

[terryc]

Dont need to, its basic arithmetic.

Oh roddles, you're such a card.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Shrug, once again Roddles reality trumps our reality.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

And just how many of you are there between those ears anyway ?

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Oh roddles, you're such a card.

Oh tewwy, you're such a terminal fuckwit/pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.