Protel 99 SE and Windows Vista: Library problem?

[Rodo]

Hi all,

I posted this in another NG with no luck so far. I was wondering if anyone
here has a fix...

I thought Protel 99 SE was working fine in my Windows Vista laptop (I'm new
to Protel) but after reading the manual I ralized I can't load any schematic
or PCB libraries. I read in the net that this is a known issue with Protel
with Vista.

Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this problem?


Thanks

 

[Jamie]

Hi all,

I posted this in another NG with no luck so far. I was wondering if anyone
here has a fix...

I thought Protel 99 SE was working fine in my Windows Vista laptop (I'm new
to Protel) but after reading the manual I ralized I can't load any schematic
or PCB libraries. I read in the net that this is a known issue with Protel
with Vista.

Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this problem?


Thanks

I replid else where to this.
Turn off UAC "user access control" and be in Admin mode.

 

[Rodo]

I replid else where to this.
Turn off UAC "user access control" and be in Admin mode.

I did and it didn't work.

Thanks

 

[The Real Andy]

Then you are down to running a virtual copy of an operating system like
XP that Protel 99 SE will work with under Vista or scrapping the
resource hogging eye candy and going back to native XP which will work.

I like the way you wankers respond with shit that is totally useless
to the OP.

Right click on the application and select the "run as administrator
option". That might help.

 

[Rodo]

[snip]

Right click on the application and select the "run as administrator
option". That might help.

Nope, I tried that too. But thanks anyway.

 

[The Real Andy]

[snip]

Right click on the application and select the "run as administrator
option". That might help.

Nope, I tried that too. But thanks anyway.

I have not used Protel 99se for a while, but I need to in the near
future. I am using Vista and intend on installing it in the next week.
If you can wait that long I might be able to provide some more help.

 

[Rodo]

I'll wait. No hurry. I'll keep monitoring this thread.

Thanks

[snip]

Right click on the application and select the "run as administrator
option". That might help.

Nope, I tried that too. But thanks anyway.

I have not used Protel 99se for a while, but I need to in the near
future. I am using Vista and intend on installing it in the next week.
If you can wait that long I might be able to provide some more help.

 

[The Real Andy]

I'll wait. No hurry. I'll keep monitoring this thread.

Thanks

[snip]
Right click on the application and select the "run as administrator
option". That might help.

Nope, I tried that too. But thanks anyway.

I have not used Protel 99se for a while, but I need to in the near
future. I am using Vista and intend on installing it in the next week.
If you can wait that long I might be able to provide some more help.

I see your problem. I found a work around. If you click on the find
button (browse sch tab), then search throught the libs you can add
them that way. Its a pain in the arse, but it works.

I used procmon (sysinternals) to have a quick look at why it might be
failing, but nothing looks obvious. Also had a stuff around with
security policies with no success, but my guess is that this is where
the problem lies.

 

[Peter Jakacki]

This one has been bugging me for a while so I thought I'd get stuck into
it as I'm unfortunately committed to using Vista on my new laptop
(actually I don't want to mess it up). It looks like an incompatibility
or something in the comdlg32.dll as far as I can tell. Not sure about
this but what I think happens is you select a file but only the path
name without the filename is processed and guess what, it doesn't
recognize it of course.

My workaround was simply to copy ADVSCH99SE.INI and ADVPCB99SE.INI files
from a working copy of P99SE running on XP. Alternatively you can edit
the INI files yourself and include the correct detail which should also
work.

So now I can use Protel99SE on my Vista laptop and place components from
my libraries - whew!

MANUAL HOWTO:
I tried adding libraries in XP to locate the detail which I think is
relevant below. Comments are in "<>".

File: ADVSCH99SE.INI
Line: TypeCount=2
<add these lines>
File0=<enter the path and filename of the library>
File1=<enter the path and filename of the library>
<add extra libraries as required>


File: ADVPCB99SE.INI
Line: TypeCount=2
<add these lines>
Count=<number of library paths you will be adding>
File0=<enter the path and filename of the library>
File1=<enter the path and filename of the library>


EXAMPLE PCB: (I added a heap of junk libraries just to check it)
TypeCount=2
Count=13
File0=D>MSACCESS:$RP>D:\!D\CAD$RN>pbjlib.ddb$OP>$ON>CONNECT.LIB$ID>199$ATTR>0$E>PCBLIB$STF>
File1=D>MSACCESS:$RP>D:\!D\CAD$RN>pbjlib.ddb$OP>$ON>SMD.LIB$ID>200$ATTR>0$E>PCBLIB$STF>
File2=D>MSACCESS:$RP>D:\!D\CAD$RN>pbjlib.ddb$OP>$ON>PCB.LIB$ID>196$ATTR>0$E>PCBLIB$STF>
File3=D>MSACCESS:$RP>D:\!D\CAD$RN>pbjlib.ddb$OP>$ON>SEMI.LIB$ID>197$ATTR>0$E>PCBLIB$STF>
File4=D>MSACCESS:$RP>D:\!D\CAD$RN>pbjlib.ddb$OP>$ON>XMODULES.LIB$ID>201$ATTR>0$E>PCBLIB$STF>
File5=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>0.635mm Staggered
Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>0.635mm Staggered
Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File6=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>1.27 & 2.54mm Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>1.27
& 2.54mm Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File7=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>2.16mm Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>2.16mm
Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File8=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>2.54mm Plain Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>2.54mm
Plain Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File9=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>Edge Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>Edge
Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File10=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>D Type Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>D Type
Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File11=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>5.08mm Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>5.08mm
Connectors.lib$ID>25$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>
File12=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\!Library!\Pcb\Connectors$RN>Miscellaneous
Connectors.ddb$OP>$ON>Miscellaneous
Connectors.lib$ID>27$ATTR>0$E>PCBLib$STF>


BTW, I actually have my schematic and pcb libraries combined into one
ddb file which makes it easy to maintain plus I don't need to add extra
libraries in normal use. I also install my Protel and libraries outside
of the "Program Files" directory which is always recommended plus it
avoids any Vista Virus security problems.

Hope this helps.

*Peter*